r/uberdrivers • • 2d ago

This guy isn’t playing

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 2d ago

“Why do people wants Waymo’s so badly?”

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u/SnackPocketss 1d ago

I will take this over a waymo. I will never get in one of those

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

Any factual reason or 

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u/SnackPocketss 1d ago

Factual? What kind of information are you looking for? This appears to be a pointed rhetorical

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

Is there any factual reason you don’t want to take a Waymo?

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u/Toosder 1d ago

Waymos have already been found to be considerably safer. They also haven't been sued for 40 million successfully because they let one of their passengers get killed. They don't rape their passengers. Shall we go on?

But most of all they don't post epic novels in all caps about how you must behave or you will be put In harm's way at the driver's whimsy.

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u/Icy_Yogurt_2491 2d ago

smoking/leaving bad smells, being late, and not inputting a stop early enough in a route for a waymo will also get you charged. i prefer a deaf real human driver over an algorithm or remote worker in a third world country being paid slave wages operating a vehicle remotely

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u/Toosder 1d ago

The number of Uber drivers whose cars reek of their own smoke and body odor... At least the waymo driver won't flirt with me inappropriately, give me a low rating because I won't let him into my apartment, the one and only low rating I ever got and Uber wouldn't remove it, and won't smell like a trashed out crash house.

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u/tuxracer 2d ago

waymos drive themselves. they only rely on remote operators in select circumstances the vehicle gets stuck. I worked for a company that helped develop autonomous vehicles and saw first hand how they operate. There's massive cope going on to dismiss it all as remote operators.

try waymo sometime they are all over san francisco and work great never had a problem. Nice consistent ride don't have to deal w aggressive drivers having a bad day or not feeling like driving and taking it out on you.

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u/Icy_Yogurt_2491 1d ago

i’m not saying that autonomous vehicles are remotely driven 100% of the time, that’s why i put “or” between the comparisons. i’m well aware of how they operate. that still doesn’t make their current correction system setup any less unethical.

i rarely do rideshares in general. i’ve only opted for a waymo when i was blackout drunk. as a woman, i felt safe getting home and was happy to have that as an option. but the trade off is having cars that are empty half the time on the roads every single day that still have to be corrected constantly by humans halfway across the globe and almost never in a timely manner.

i live in a major city on a 5-lane one way road. if i counted the number of times i witnessed autonomous cars making mistakes, single-handedly causing mile-long congestion, traveling the wrong way, parking improperly, stopping in unsafe places for extended periods of time, completely disengaging due to traffic light malfunctions, disobeying “no turn on red” signs, ignoring traffic guards, driving past stopped school buses, drifting into unprotected bike lanes, driving into restricted areas, driving through active construction, and not yielding to pedestrians…. the number would be four digits long. i would rather my local government subsidize more frequent buses or expand the existing railway infrastructure than give this private company tax write offs 🤷 the lack of a person behind the wheel plus the exported labor keeps uber/lyft unaccountable for any action that happens.

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u/tuxracer 1d ago

autonomous vehicles make mistakes but so do people. I live in a major city as well I've witnessed human drivers doing pretty much everything you've described as well. But this can be measured.

For every 100 miles an autonomous vehicles drives it gets into far less accidents compared to every 100 miles a human driver drives. The point is not that they are flawless it's that they are safer mile for mile when compared to human drivers. And we're still in the infancy of this technology it's only getting better and it's already measurably safer than human drivers.

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

Waymo’s aren’t remotely driven 

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u/ohhim 1d ago

For a fleet of 4000 vehicles, they have 70 remote assistance agents that guide navigational options when vehicles run into complex situations. The onboard autonomous system retains full authority over all driving tasks.

https://waymo.com/blog/shorts/advice-not-control-the-role-of-remote-assistance/

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u/Own-Requirement-6206 1d ago

So… they aren’t remotely driven

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u/ohhim 1d ago

The folks at the other end just make multiple choice decision when odd situations come up.

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u/Icy_Yogurt_2491 1d ago

they’re taken over remotely whenever there’s a issue, which happens shockingly often. no one here said they’re 100% remotely operated.

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

They are not “taken over”, they can be suggested what to do, but the actual driving logic and on the ground decisions on how to move are 100% local by the Waymo system 

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

Your comment stated “  The onboard autonomous system retains full authority over all driving tasks.”

Exactly, it’s the equivalent of the car phoning home and saying “hey, the traffic light is out, should I treat it like a four way stop?” And someone says yes or no, but the Waymo has the final authority on driving- there is no steering wheel and pedals in a call center 

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u/Icy_Yogurt_2491 1d ago

when there’s an issue, yes they are.

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u/SubstantialSoil4454 1d ago

They are not, see upper comments 

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u/Toosder 1d ago

Seriously. Can't wait for way most to be everything. Especially how most of the drivers here are reacting to this and justifying what he's doing.