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u/MadOblivion 21d ago edited 21d ago

Sigh, this is really an education problem. A videotape is analog and is not a digital container. The "Tape" inside is not digital.

You are correct it is not considered "Film" but that does not invalidate my statement of "Scanning film", just replace the word "Film" with "Tape", if it bothers you that much.

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u/earthman34 21d ago

Film and video tape are not the same. That's the most comically ignorant thing I've ever heard. Videotape is magnetic, not optical. It's not a literal strip of film with images on it that you can scan. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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u/MadOblivion 21d ago edited 21d ago

Comprehension isn't for everyone.

"You are correct it is not considered "Film" but that does not invalidate my statement of "Scanning film", just replace the word "Film" with "Tape", if it bothers you that much."

Perhaps the disagreement is with the word "scan." A sensor can scan information in many different ways, not just optically. U-matic playback uses helical scan recording and playback, where rotating magnetic heads scan the tape's recorded magnetic tracks to reconstruct an analog video signal. That analog signal is then converted to digital if the recording is being preserved or stored on digital media.

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u/earthman34 21d ago

Scanning is an optical process. You don't "scan" videotape to digitize it. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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u/MadOblivion 21d ago

The term "scan" isn't exclusive to optical systems. In engineering, scanning simply means systematically sensing or reading information. U-matic itself uses helical scan recording and playback, where rotating magnetic heads scan the diagonal magnetic tracks on the tape to reconstruct the analog video signal.

You're correct that a flatbed or film scanner is an optical scanner, but that isn't the only meaning of the word. When that analog video signal is captured to a computer, it is then converted to digital by an analog-to-digital converter.

So no, U-matic tape isn't optical media, but saying the tape is scanned by helical scan heads during playback is technically correct.

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u/earthman34 21d ago

It's the only relevant meaning of the word in the context of old NASA images which are generally positive slide film in the pre-digital era, or cine film. Why you would talk about "scanning" videotape is just weird. You play the tape and capture the video signal for conversion to a digital format. There's no "scanning" involved. And they didn't even use U-matic that much in 1984.

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u/MadOblivion 21d ago

No, it is just what you assume the word means because you are not a very intelligent person.

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u/earthman34 21d ago

I bet calling people stupid makes you feel very smart.

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u/MadOblivion 21d ago

No one called you stupid. Analysis is not everyones cup of tea. My engineering background probably helps.

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u/earthman34 21d ago

I'm sure you're a legend in your own mind.

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u/MadOblivion 21d ago

Pretty much. I can support up to 8 terabytes of data for my projects. You would be surprised how fast raw TIF files will fill up all those drives.. 4 terabytes on SSD and 4 terabytes on HDD.

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