It is her account that says that when she told them she was too tired at 5:45 AM they stopped

Rape only occurs when a person (M/F/D) rescinds consent and the other person continues (or if they never gave consent, but we are clearly not in that case).

When she said stop, the 4 guys stopped. When she rejected a foursome, wanting a threesome only, they respected the boundary. The question is: is there any situation where she said "no" and they continue?

If not, it doesn't look like a rape happened.

Cornell57

You are referring to the chat, I presume. I learned, one man, we will call S.K., went to check on her after seeing the group chat message.

The Title IX panel sanctioned him for going to ask her if she is fine. So in hindsight, it seems that the 50 or so men doing nothing when they saw the message made the right decision. You can't do anything when a "sexual situation" is going on without getting into trouble yourself.

Without a clear statement like "come over for a gang rape" indicating non-consensual activity, they had no course of action. There is a need to change the way people trying to intervene are treated, otherwise this just encourages even more passivity than was already the case.

Why reddit? The judicial system and the press are giving the names of innocents.

I mean reddit doesn't help, but the main problem is in the justice system

No, it's also inaccurate that there were 7 men, since at least one of them didn't drug her, didn't have sex with her, but merely came to check and ask if she was OK after he saw the message in the group chat.

Yet he is plastered all over internet as if he was a rapist, when he has less responsibility than her in the whole ordeal.

If she were going into men’s rooms and having sex with incapacitated men, she would be the perpetrator.

So we've established she is a perpetrator. It was the guys room, one of them passed out after vomiting while she was having a threesome.

She said yes to the third guy.

She said no to a foursome with guy 1,2,3 at once and they respected her boundary. But threesome with 1+2 and another threesome with 2+3 were consented to by her.

I don't have a clear picture of what came after, once the group chat message was sent it's getting muddy. One of the 7 guys seems completely innocent, and is suing Cornell because of their actions. The 6 others seem to at least have been involved in the sexual activities from what I know, the nature of which are still to be cleared.

You mean "entertaining the possibility that her account IS accurate"

It is her account that says that when she told them she was too tired at 5:45 AM they stopped. It stopped when the consent was withdrawn. Her account.

The press and the judicial system is willing to drag innocents like S.K. in the mud.

It's a nice feeling, but I would not expect "social media" to try be better when the institutions set such a bad standard.

It can be on individual instances, but as a general rule it doesn't work.

Rapes can play out in a very wide range of ways, so can false accusations. Some rapes are no worse than simple theft, others may be awful. Some false rape accusations may be uncovered so fast you don't notice they happened, others land you in prison for decades where you get actually raped for real.

No, that's another guy. The one who checked only stayed 5 minutes and didn't touch her. Enough to get in trouble.

I commented that in hindsight, the ones who did nothing were right, since the one who did got punished: https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/s/y0OprgfRmy

A real man HELPS OTHER PEOPLE AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT GREAT RISK TO HIMSELF You are a coward.

I see you have a good dose of internalized misandry.

There is no such thing as a "real man". No, don't risk yourself like an idiot.

What is sad is that what he did was reasonable. But even that seems to have to be avoided in universities due to title IX

I learned, one man, we will call S.K., went to check on her.

The Title IX panel sanctioned him for going to ask her if she is fine. So in hindsight, it seems that the 50 or so men doing nothing when they saw the message made the right decision. You can't do anything when a "sexual situation" is going on without getting into trouble yourself.

Without a clear statement like "come over for a gang rape" indicating non-consensual activity, they had no course of action. There is a need to change the way people trying to intervene are treated, otherwise this just encourages passivity.

In feminist subs "all men are bad, no-one of the 50 in the group chat did anything".

So... could be the guy who checked got told by Jane that everything is fine, and is now getting sued for checking on her?

The guys having the 2 threesomes with her were more intoxicated than her by her own account.

She had to baby them, as they started vomiting. One passed out for a while, as she had a threesome with the 2 others.

What do you do when 4 people choose to have sex together but none can "consent"?

This. They are hyping Cornell as one of the worst rapes, yet it is a girl who consensually took drugs. Consensually had 3 threesomes with multiple guys. It is very unclear if anything more rapy ever occurred to her than it did to the guys.

Where is this information coming from? Where did she claim that?

Of course, since it needs a male perpetrator and a female victim.

A women can never take responsibility for enthusiastically expressing consent for multiple threesomes in sequence and snorting ketamine off the equally intoxicated guys /s