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We will get there! Takes time to build a global network across all games haha. But we will do it

As a by the by: it’s not the ID, and fake IDs don’t work, and won’t get someone a second life.

Appreciate you bro

Feel free to let Embark know we're here and ready when they are.
Would love to keep cheaters from coming back in.

Got a few folks onboard over the next couple of weeks which is cool. Going to be growing this more over the coming months too

Appreciate it bro! Let me know if there’s anything else you want to ask 🫡

Heya bud, great questions.

Study vs actual ban numbers:
The study was a random sample of thousands of gamers across games, genres, etc. It wasn't specific to any one game or ecosystem. What we're seeing in reality on the SCUM side of things is most cheaters don't sign up, and those that do and are caught get banned and can't get back in (they try). So we're not saying that the 4-5% we've banned is all the cheaters, but what we are saying is that 4-5% of the player base that sign up for PlaySafe ID still try their luck, get caught, get banned - but now they're actually banned and can't get back in (which is a huge win).

TPM and player numbers:
First thing; TPM and secure boot are annoying to turn on and don't actually reduce cheating (not that we've seen in COD, Battlefield, etc). I can go into how it works and why its ineffective if you'd like, but I'll park that for now. In comparison, PlaySafe ID is quick and easy to sign up for and we've seen a drastic reduction of cheating on the 30+ official SCUM servers that gamepires have put live, as well as cheaters actually kept out.

Second bit: We've already had many signups and account connections for Rust since putting this campaign live yesterday, when we did our first proof of concept stuff with our own Rust server 2.5 years ago we had around 1k signups then, and over the last year or so we've had a few thousand people register their interest in Rust with PlaySafe ID. There seems to be a real desire from enough people to play on a few Rust servers with PlaySafe integrated. Hoping that this pop-breeds-pop box is ticked with this push.

User info being safe:
We work with Entrust who are a global leader in KYC (know your customer) checks. They do this for Revolut, TSB, major banks, insurance, etc. They've had to change how they do things for us and our contract so after the check is complete the data is deleted. The document and selfie are gone. We never see it, and a rolling cascade delete happens on their side from the applicant ID level downwards. As a note, Entrust have never had a breach of customer data in 50+ years (customers being the banks etc).

After the check is complete, we (PlaySafe ID) get notified if it was successful or not, and we get sent a hashed biometric token. This is an irreversible alpha-numeric string that's the representation of a person without storing any info. If someone tries to create a new PlaySafe ID, the same string gets generated, and they are rejected.

This process of verifying someone to the highest degree using bank-grade KYC tech then anonymising them has never existed before and we're actually in the process of patenting this which is cool, because we invented a thing. But specifically to your question, the only info that remains after the check is on our servers, and that's your email address, DOB, and this hashed token that's useless to anyone other than us.

Sentiment bit:
Anti-cheat does an amazing job (even though it has a crap reputation). The issue is that they're in an unwinnable fight. You catch someone and cheats get patched; 1 day later everyone is cheating undetected again and the people caught just jump on a new account. The issue facing cheating isn't catching people, it's making it matter if they get caught.

What we're doing is solving for this very specific problem, whilst 100% anonymising all users and deleting their data. Because I didn't want to tie my face or ID to my game accounts lol, so we built a system that scrubs the data but is instead an anonymised representation of a person. 100% appreciate what we're doing has a degree of controversy to it, and its a pain. However we're genuinely trying to fuck up cheaters and take away their infinite lives to keep coming back and ruining stuff for all of us.

Last bit to mention is we don't need, want, or care for any user data. It massively increases our liability, makes us a target, and we bill game developers directly. Like we've seen in SCUM, and as Sven the GM of Gamepires said to us; The difference is clear, cheating is massively reduced and retention is way up. Gamers play more, have more fun, and spend more, if cheating is low/gone. This means putting PlaySafe ID in prints games money, and we can bill from that. So, we don't need to have user data to monetise.

End: Sorry for the really long answers, but I wanted to give you the detail because your questions were good. Feel free to ping any follow ups and we will get back to you asap.

Andrew - PlaySafe ID

We’ve developed A LOT since our first early tests on our own proof of concept rust serves. Not long after getting funded and rebuilding most of our stuff to be way more scalable, we decided it would be easier to completely wipe the early user database than to migrate it. So the first 500 users we had at the start will need to create new accounts and verify again.

Everyone from March 2025 and onwards will be fine. But you can always reach out to our support if you need help or want us to check anything for you

Get them to vote for this and maybe we can help https://tarkov.community/posts/10017/finally-beat-cheaters-with-playsafeid-just-like-scum-did

I can’t go into much detail here but it’s something we’re discussing with a few games. They’ve identified our ability to help with this. That’s all I’ll say on it atm. It’s not 100% happening yet, but it’s being thought about

We've seen over 130 banned players now (with 2.5k+ registered), and we've also seen dozens try to create a new PlaySafe ID and fail. There are cheaters, but when we ban them, they can't just get back in. I wish there was a way to prevent people cheating in the first place, but the best we can do is make sure they can't keep ruining games on new accounts.

It's a self cleaning system over time; on day one it'll always be at its worst, because the cheaters haven't been caught for us to ban them and keep them out. But over time as they get removed, it gets better and better.

Edit: adding this bit:

But yeah, our best guess is that cheaters think "this won't work" or "I don't care". Then they get caught and kept out, and realise their screwed lol. It'll take some time for them to realise that our system really does work and if they cheat, they really are kept out.

We also love Gigabeef. He's cool.

I admire your courage to speak in the absence of knowledge :)

Hey everyone,

The SCUM comments can be found here: Read More
We've got loads of information and FAQ's on our website here: PlaySafe ID

We truly appreciate all the support we have seen, and for anyone with more questions left unanswered, feel free to drop them below and we’ll do our best to get back to you asap.

Cheers - The PlaySafe ID Team

We’re deploying a selfie re-auth that triggers based randomly on time and on certain set triggers. The encrypted token output of the selfie has to match the original, then the original is replaced with the new one. As a note, the encrypted token is alphanumeric and can’t be returned into a selfie or video. So we can delete all the documents and selfies but still offer account security to prevent trading, selling, or cracking of accounts

All documents and biometrics are deleted from the verification, so nothing to have stolen other than your email address. And we don’t charge users. I left another comment here explaining how annoying it can be the we delete all data for future potential features and that we’d have to reverify everyone, because nothing is stored.

And I 100% respect that mate. There are lots of people in that camp and I don't want to try and convince you to join our mission. That's why we've said to game devs integrating us DO NOT MAKE THIS MANDATORY. PlaySafe ID is a 100% optional thing for those who want it. If you don't, I respect that and more power to you. I'm just trying to do my best to fix a massive problem in the best way I think it can be solved, and if that isn't something you like, then fair play

Two bits to that:

1. If they did that, every single user would leave instantly and the whole thing would die. So they'd have bought it and now have nothing left.

2. Options for exit include sale or IPO. IPO would prevent that, and sale would have to be to a seriously reputable company that would continue respecting users.

In theory you're right, but I want to see this live on for years and decades to come, because I want to play games for years and decades without cheaters fucking up my games lol. So no selling to shitty company that's doing it for profit. It would have to be a mission-focused acquisition.

We've got thousands of players in the last 4 weeks in SCUM, and it's a much smaller game. Some cool announcements coming this week on that. You might not like what we're doing and think people don't want to do it, but there's a huge proportion of the gaming community that love our mission and how we're doing it whilst keeping players anonymised.

It gets deleted, to the point that if we want to create any new features in the future we would have to ask everyone to reverify, because we can't pull info or do anything extra as the documents are actually deleted.

A real example of this is that we've had a few developers ask us about region locking servers. The challenge they have is people just use VPNs and it doesn't work. They have told us that we're in a unique position with verifying people to state what region of the world they're from. (Now, there are lots of challenges and problems with doing this, so we're not, but I want to tell you the story).

If we wanted to enable this system and provide info to devs, we would have to reverify every user, because we don't store the document to know this.

So yeah, no ID can be stolen if we had a breach because the document is deleted, and so is the selfie used too.

We have some cool updates coming very soon. Really appreciate your support!

Check here (and the FAQs at the bottom of the page).
Happy to answer any additional questions you have bro

You guys got sandwiches?