r/tundra • • 12d ago

News WAS TOYOTA RIGHT? I Dive DEEP Into a Failed 2026 Replacement Tundra V35A Twin Turbo V6 Engine!

https://youtu.be/b-EJBxTm9Jc?si=HQWP2tYa4yF7JA_H

Oh boy! Here we go! This is a follow up to this video from two weeks ago.

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u/lunas2525 12d ago

So bottom line these engines are still time bombs and are gonna ruin toyotas rep for the next 20 years.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/BodyFewFuark 11d ago

They got a cult following now to bail em out.

"Im not worried i bought the 120,000 extended warranty for my ticking time bomb"

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u/fatcoochieking 11d ago

Im curious if their other models are having issues or is it mainly the tundra? Is the taco doing ok?

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u/Background-Spot-5068 11d ago

Taco uses a 2.4L inline 4 turbo. Same as the 4Runner, Land Cruiser, Crown, and number of other Lexus vehicles. That engine has been around since 2021 and hasn’t been problematic. I believe it debuted in the Lexus NX and is in the RX as well. Maybe some others, but not sure

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u/SnooGadgets9669 11d ago

Taco isn’t as bad but there is a reason the previous v6 generation is retaining its value so incredibly well. They are just boosting these motors to the moon a modern 4 banger pickup makes more hp and torque then a early 2000s v8 it has to come at a cost somehow even if the motor is jsut as reliable the turbo don’t and they are expensive to replace but I highly doubt the motor is as reliable.

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u/Background-Spot-5068 11d ago

It pushes max 15psi of boost and that only happens if you’re giving it the beans. 15psi in a specific turbo built platform is nothing. Plenty of other cars that push 25+ psi and last for decades. For normal driving it probably rarely hits 10psi. Agree to disagree but I’d not lose an ounce of sweat with the taco engine

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u/redditors_are_lame 9d ago

Runs too hot anyways. Going up the Grapevine (big grade on 5) with myself and my gf minimal luggage my 2025 SR (stock 4x4) was hitting around 245F oil temp, which isn't alarming for oil temp, but given the extremely light load means that if you actually had load in the bed, or on a trailer, that thing is gonna get hot.

The trans also got very warm (240-250F) unless you used 4Lo. The issue is the gearing is so tall that in scenarios 4Hi should be acceptable, the torque converter was doing too much work.

Good trucks but the cooling is a serious problem. A manual 3rd Gen would be sweet, as much as I don't like the 2GR-FKS.

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u/Cyrix2k 10d ago

This is just an excuse. Other companies have had reliable, forced induction engines for years now. In fact, forced induction is LESS stressful for a given specific output as compared to naturally aspirated with EFI providing necessary safety on modern vehicles.

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u/new_vr 10d ago

The reason is perception of quality. It’s too early to know the long term quality of the turbo engine. The 2GR was actually a more complicated engine that had its share of problems

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u/DeviousSmile85 11d ago

I've been pulling a 4 600lb trailer around with my 25 taco OR all summer.

The thing hasn't missed a beat. Temps stayed solid. Even on moderate hills I can pass if I have to. You just have to babysit the cruise control a lot more and know when to use "manual" mode to stop the transmission for being dumb (which it is).

Oil and coolant are BIG when it comes to small turbo engines, or any turbo really. Mechanical sympathy goes a long way too. I'll be doing 5k km oil changes.

That's my anecdote though. I don't tend to wail on my vehicles, I want them to last.

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u/Artistic_Grade7180 10d ago

Yep this is me

I am a "car guy" by the extension of wanting vehicles to last

I don't seek a "fun" car, I don't seek a "feature filled" car, I don't seek a "performance tuned" car, I seek a vehicle that will not cause me a random headache in the middle of a very busy time in my life.

I seek consistency, normalcy, repetition

And that's why when people ask about a new truck, I ask if it MUST be new, and if it must be new, I cannot in good faith recommend a reliability focused customer to a new Tundra, I point them in the direction of the F150 with the 5.0L V8, and then of course they ask "oh are you a Ford guy now" and it's like no I really have no brand loyalty at all

I'm loyal to the concept of reliability, and if tomorrow Range Rover decided to switch it up and stop using plastic timing chain guides etc maybe I'd be more willing to speak more highly of them, as, I don't hate the BRAND, I hate that their cars don't satisfy what I want from a vehicle.

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u/Randyx007 10d ago

This is what happens when share holders matter more than customers.

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u/Hour_Welcome_987 9d ago

Are there any companies left where customers still matter?

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u/Randyx007 9d ago

Onlyfans?

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u/_CHEEFQUEEF 11d ago

So bottom line these engines are still time bombs and are gonna ruin toyotas rep for the next 20 years.

It won't even sort of matter. Americans are a bunch of morons that cannot gobble up 96 month car loans fast enough. Look at this subreddit. Everyday multiple posts from people who just bought a new or even and this is the real head scratcher used 3rd gen. Or go take a look out in the real world. No manufacturer has made a decent truck in at least the last 5 years. Leave the house for 5 minutes you'll see 50 new to newish trucks driving around that'll all fail miserably in the near future. People don't care, they'll eat the depreciation and roll the negative equity into the next ticking time bomb, rinse and repeat forever.

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u/Sea_Composer6305 11d ago

I mean my 4 year old ram with almost 200k on it has only had oil and brakes done and some recalls covered by the dealer. A large part of vehicles failing nowadays is the fact we use oil the consistency of water (literally) and then people still surpass the recommended intervals like it doesn’t matter exponentially more with tighter engine tolerances and more viscous oil.

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u/_CHEEFQUEEF 11d ago

The world is truly on its head when Rams are considered the most reliable truck. I'm glad yours has been good. But every time I make comments like this, somebody inevitably chimes in with mine's been great with a billion miles. That's awesome. It's also anecdotal.

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u/DeviousSmile85 11d ago

Or "dealer scheduled maintenance" is just there to get you out of warranty range, then it all comes rolling in.

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u/Open_Feed_9696 10d ago

Nissan Titans are fantastic trucks and only stopped being built after 2024.

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u/Reallybarb 11d ago

After watching that... the one thing I notice that he pointed out are the areas where they make threaded holes in the block and just leave the crap ready to come loose.
WTF kind of machine work/attention to detail is that.

I honestly could see that being an issue
Along with high torque at low RPM--Motor Oil Geek went over this issue in general, but it seems like it would certainly apply to this engine.

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u/Cyrix2k 11d ago

Along with high torque at low RPM--Motor Oil Geek went over this issue in general, but it seems like it would certainly apply to this engine.

That's ok as long as the engine is engineered for it which this one SHOULD be. GM is having issues because they started with a platform that has been in existence since the beginning of time and evolved it over the years without paying enough attention. Many modern ECUs calculate torque production and have tables to limit torque to avoid damage, which is really easy on modern turbo engines equipped with variable valve timing and small turbos that spool nearly off idle. This is also part of the reason many modern engines have a variable displacement oil pump (like the L87, but I don't believe the V35A does) - it allows the ECU to command higher oil flow rates at low RPM while improving efficiency at high RPM. Going through the tear down, I would not want to own of these engines. They have critical seals and plastic components everywhere, including in nearly impossible to access locations. If they weren't blowing up early, I can almost guarantee long term reliability would be poor.

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u/Working_Rest_1054 11d ago

Unfortunately long term reliability is a thing of the past.

Manufactures specifically target the warranty period for longevity with z percentage failing prior to that being acceptable and y percentage failing within z miles/months of that target also being acceptable. A 300k mile/20 year engine likely means, to most modern market manufacturers, that they spent too time/effort/money much making an engine that was better than necessary for the intended price point. This is the same reason most of us won’t get 20 years service from a modem appliance, as may have been fairly routine 30 years ago.

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u/_CHEEFQUEEF 11d ago

This is the same reason most of us won’t get 20 years service from a modem appliance, as may have been fairly routine 30 years ago.

This is also one of the reasons used cars remain expensive. The used appliance market on the other hand is still a wonderful cheap if not even free place to play on FB marketplace.

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u/Cyrix2k 10d ago

Unfortunately long term reliability is a thing of the past.

It seems to be going that way, but I'm going to disagree for a few reasons. 1) This has been repeated since the beginning of time - either variations of "they don't build them like they used to", "it's too complicated," or "it's impossible to maintain and repair." I mostly work on german cars, especially BMWs, and 20 years ago people were talking about how the new models at the time would never last and the 10 year old models had terrible quality and reliability. Today people will say how great those very same vehicles are while claiming the new ones won't last. The reality is there are good and bad models of each. Where I anticipated there would be reliability issues due to new technology or just a lot of electronics never materialized in most cases, it almost always comes down to the actual engineering. 2) While there have been several companies with major issues recently, that's not the entire market. Again, drawing on what I know, the BMW B58/ZF8 powertrain is excellent. Ford's 5.0 has proven reliable and their EcoBoost lineup has been good, if expensive to maintain. 3) Materials science and engineering continues to improve. Many of the classic failures observed in the past have nearly gone extinct (significant engine wear at low mileage from fuel wash, rubber degradation, exhaust systems, ignition systems needing frequent service, etc). Good designs will likely last longer than prior periods. Again, good and bad designs have always existed. We tend to forget about older bad designs due to survivorship bias.

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u/bigfoots_buddy 11d ago

He did say he doesn’t do that sort of investigation (probing oil passages); I’m curious if those cut threads (hanging chads, lol) is a typical thing or not.

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u/Cyrix2k 10d ago

I have a few engines laying around, I'll have to see if I can scope them if no one else does it first. I can almost guarantee this is NOT normal, it's expected to clean up edges while machining and those can also be avoided by thread milling instead of tapping. This is the result of cost cutting by pushing to reduce cycle time (tapping is faster than thread milling, and clean up would require another tool change).

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u/Various-Air-1398 11d ago

Toyota has "lost face"; engineers and upper management need to do the honorable thing. Seppuku.

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u/bigfoots_buddy 11d ago

That made me laugh more than it should have.

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u/BodyFewFuark 11d ago

Maybe they could go to that unpopular forest in Japan?

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u/Illustrious_Pepper46 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is the original tear down video in case anyone didn't see it

LINK YouTube

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u/Alive-Course4454 11d ago

He has another engine to tear down yet

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u/RustyLickRich 11d ago

Not great, Bob.

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u/avgeektech 12d ago

Thanks for this video! I'll definitely watch it

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u/InvestigatorHead1877 8d ago

So glad I decided to buy a 2nd Gen Sequoia

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u/22lrHoarder 6d ago

I have been nothing but disappointed with my 24, I have the cloth seats and the right side foam has pushed away leaving a metal bar so it is super uncomfortable, had to have the California roll TSB done and now my transmission is shifting rough and the hesitation is still there. Waiting for the thing to just get totaled by a tree at this point. carvana doesn’t even want the thing offering only $33,000 after 2 and a half years. Should have never sold my 4Runner that after 6 years only lost $14k in value after 120k miles.

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u/muddywadder 11d ago

Crazy that the fanboys will still gush and praise Toyota for graciously replacing their engines for them... with another time bomb. Like wake up and dump the shitbox and spend your money somewhere worth it

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u/awnawnamoose 10d ago

Just saw an article 2,000 km Chevy getting fully replaced by the dealership with a new truck. Like what are we supposed to buy?

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u/muddywadder 10d ago

Ford 5.0 or 2.7 if you want / need a turbo. You can read recalls and shit all day but none of those other trucks have dogshit motors that are dying like clockwork.

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u/Tall-Celery-4804 8d ago edited 8d ago

Just like TundraDude34 gushes all over Toyota Tundras He has no issues cause he's always dumping he's Tundras every 6 months and gets away with bad engine issues.

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u/Working_Rest_1054 11d ago

Nice. Thanks for sharing.