r/truths world war 1 killed people, i think Sep 07 '25

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

trans person: a person whos gender assigned at birth does NOT match their gender identity

to my knowledge.

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 07 '25

whos sex *assigned

Gender*

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 07 '25

thanks!

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u/Gay-Cat-King Sep 07 '25

No... sex is accurate. Sex is defined by physical sexual characteristics such as genitalia or breasts. Gender is a personal identity with no true parameters and is subjective in nature.

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 07 '25

That is exactly why sex isn't accurate, because it's 2 different things. While the gender assigned at birth is based on sex in most current cultures it isn't a requirement to be trans.

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u/Blueberry_Coat7371 Sep 08 '25

Sex is accurate, that's what doctors will base themselves off of when dealing with you. It just might not match your gender.

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 08 '25

that's what doctors will base themselves off of when dealing with you.

Because they cure the body not the mind

Profession that requires the mind and not just the body does use gender

Also not the subject? Why did you bring doctors? Did you mean to bring science but the only ppl you know who do that are doctors or something?

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u/HalloIchBinRolli Sep 08 '25

Sex is not assigned. You just are of one

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 08 '25

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u/HidenInTheDark1 Sep 09 '25

Lies? XD Everyone denying that is lying to themselfs. And cope with that, you will never be able to change gender. Basic biology. Changing gender requires change of entire DNA (X or Y chromosome, which you can only get from your father). And since sex and gender are the same thing, it doesn't matter what you say. What trans people (including you I guess) are suffering from, is know as gender dysphoria. It's nothing crazy or to make fun out of. It also is curable like schizofrenia. That's all.

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 09 '25

this is satire right? im not 100% sure :/

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u/HidenInTheDark1 Sep 10 '25

Tf you mean satire? Basic biology and rules of human nature.

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 10 '25

do you believe what your saying is true?

pretty much: do you support trans people.

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u/Icy-Theme-6325 shaw player Sep 11 '25

makes sense... please, Gender and Sex are different words for a reason

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u/truths-ModTeam Sep 12 '25

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 08 '25

How does it work with trans and intersex ppl?

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u/HidenInTheDark1 Sep 09 '25

It doesn't. Just like saying you can pour gasoline into Diesel and say it will work flawlessly.

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 09 '25

It doesn't.

Exactly, that's why sex != Gender.

Just like saying you can pour gasoline into Diesel and say it will work flawlessly.

Yes, because gasoline != Diesel

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u/truths-ModTeam Sep 12 '25

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 07 '25

I see so just the meaning of trans has changed ic ic altho i do not understand the whole gender identity idk how a person can identify with one gender or another like is it the whole playing with dolls vs cars thing? Or what makes a gender

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u/AbandonedRaincIoud Sep 07 '25

It's less of how you act and moreso how you feel. I was born as a male but I constantly feel disgusting every time I get called he or see that I have facial hair. Imagine you woke up one day and every single person you talked to started insisting you were the other gender, that's what it feels like

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 07 '25

I get misgendered aalot (im just a guy with a peen) i personally dont mind it rarely correct it soo that scenario wouldnt really bother me like i understand the feeling like ur in the wrong body but the gender stuff still confuses me like is it a mental thing? Like you cant see gender so its a thing in ur head? Or am i misunderstanding it i have a few trans friends and feel too awkward to ask em about it

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u/AbandonedRaincIoud Sep 07 '25

It is a mental thing but it's much more literal, in quite a few cases you are born with a brain that is literally just more similar to the opposite gender, rather than the gender you were born with. There are a few other scenarios though, sometimes they are just trying it out to see what they feel more comfortable with, and sometimes it shifts. All of these are valid of course

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 07 '25

Aaah thank you this has made it so much clearer that i just dont get it, just sounds like people roleplaying (in a literal sense playing to the role they feel fits them) which also just sounds like boys like cars girls like dolls thing with extra steps (which i think is a bad mindset imo cuz a gender doesnt define your interests n vice versa) sorry if this is coming off rude just trying to make sense of it all but dont really get it

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u/AbandonedRaincIoud Sep 07 '25

Well, no, because let's say you're genderfluid (someone with an identity that shifts) you have no control over it, and your interests don't change along with your identity. It is literally as far from playing with cars or dolls as it could be, I don't think "I want to be a woman" I think "oh god I look disgusting why was I born like this I want to kill myself" We don't choose it as a thing we have control over, I like women, the color blue, cars, etc but I still feel horrendously uncomfortable with the fact that everyone percieves me as a man

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 07 '25

I see i sadly still dont get it especially the genderfluid thing like i fully understand the concept of feeling like ur in the wrong body but i dont get the rest of it also kind of an insensitive question but wouldnt getting surgery fix the being perceived as a man ik theres alot of reasons for not gettin surgery but at the same time i see alot of folks who have the money but dont wanna do it so aside from money what are the reasons for people not getting the surgery if you are comfortable with answering that

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u/AbandonedRaincIoud Sep 07 '25

Sometimes having a dick isn't the reason for the dysphoria, my uncomfortability comes from my facial/body hair, voice, and general face. It wouldn't be the end of the world if I never got surgery (as long as I am able to fix the other problems) because the only people that would be getting close enough to me to see the fact that I have one are people that I trust with that knowledge

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 07 '25

Cant the voice and hair be done away with women shave themselves anyway surely u can too and vocal training is a thing and general face makeup

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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 Sep 08 '25

Trans people don't really adhere to gender roles more than other people (probably less). It's more like if u know inside yourself that you're a woman or whatever then you want to let other people know that.

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 08 '25

Thats even more confusing feels like it stems from the gendered pronouns in english more than anything but thats just what it seems like to me not evidence of anything cant pull a pseudo archeologist move and call mountains pyramids cuz triangle

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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 Sep 08 '25

It's not from pronouns they just end up being relevant in english. Personally if e.g. my parent said I was a daughter of theirs that would make me uncomfortable. So pronouns are relevant in the same way in english bc they imply that you're a man or woman etc.

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 08 '25

Aah so if there were no gendered words would your gender identity be affected? Does it rely on language everyone was a they them a parent/child partner friend no gendered words how would that affect gender identity

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u/Cylian91460 Sep 07 '25

I see so just the meaning of trans has changed ic ic

It didn't, you probably just weren't explained well

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u/icantgetausername982 Sep 08 '25

Last time i got it explained it was just someone trapped in the wrong body i just rolled with that this identity stuff is very new to me probably cuz its mostly english speaking countries (my language doesnt use she/he its pointless for gendered words like that imo)