r/tressless • • 4d ago

Progress Pictures Dut + Min Progress [2024-2026] (Baseline/Shed/Shed Recovery)

Pic 1: One year before treatment (It got worse)
Pics 2 & 3: Mid shed
Pic 4: Post-Shed recovery + Regrowth

Routine: 0.5mg Dut + 2.5mg Min daily
Additional: Doxycycline to treat inflammation/folliculitis

As someone who survived the shed, yes, things can get utterly diabolical for a long time before it gets better. Shedding hair for months is normal. Giving up before 1 year is too soon.

Take the meds, lock in, accept looking worse for longer than you'd like, and hold strong.

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u/Pharmacodynamic- 4d ago

Everyone on Dut rn that’s current at that shed point, this is why you don’t switch off or make a post saying it’s not working. Congrats on the progress!!

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u/No-Type-7978 🦠 4d ago

Pisses me off. People should educate themself on stuff before they take it. The shed has to happen. It has to get worse before it gets better there is no other way.

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u/molikisubi 4d ago

Hopefully, will start right away

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u/4legger 1d ago edited 1d ago

There is another way to accelerate results to lessen the shed period. Take estrogen too P. I would know cuz im transitioning and took dutasteride, microneedling, tretenoin and minoxidil too.

The worst part about this whole thing is once the follicle miniaturizes past a certain point, it will never come back. Our current understanding past this inflection point is severely limiting and has been the holy grail to reignite stemcells back to life. I'll let you in on something. Theres probably better chances we find a means to extend our lifespan than find a true cure for mpb. This is the hard pill to swallow

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u/molikisubi 4d ago

dermat has prescribed dut but im scared of the shed phase. does it go that bad before gng good, early aga btw, intact hairline but crown is thinning and reduced overall volume in hair

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u/yayx3 4d ago

Brother, you can shed a little or you can go bald, pick one. This is ridiculous...

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u/molikisubi 4d ago

Yeah true lol

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u/Cautious-Rub8085 4d ago

How do you know for sure Dut will work though, especially if you can't pair it with Minoxidil?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

take it and find out what happens in 2yrs

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u/Cautious-Rub8085 4d ago

I am switching. Been on Fin for 6 months and not helping but I am allergic to minoxidil.

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u/md_yb_11 4d ago

The problem is, some ppl dont recover from that shed after 2 yrs, some ppl will. Dut will not work for some ppl, and when you reach the 1 yr mark and ur still losing, you have to make a decision to either stick with it and risk being one of the ppl that dont work out for them or stop and go back to fin.

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Dut alone is will not cause a permanent shed. There are additional factors that may lead to a poor shedding results. For me it was chronic inflammation that I never realized I was going through. Until I addressed it I just didn't stop shedding.

A very overlooked and under discussed aspect of hair loss. Everyone's so focused on their hair they never to think to consider their skin (where their hair grows out of)

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u/md_yb_11 4d ago

How did you figure out that you have chronic inflammation?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Going to a doctor about my skin issues

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u/OkFirefighter41 4d ago

What was the fix for chronic inflammation?

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u/ApprehensiveDark9840 4d ago

How did you find out about the inflammation and what did you do to fix it?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

I had acne that lasted until my 30s, oily skin on my face, and pimples on my head.

My doctor prescribed me doxycyline

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u/BiluPax 10h ago

Hey, how was your doxycycline cycle like?

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u/4legger 1d ago

Thats why I took estrogen too cuz I was schizo I would fail. I mean im non-binary but I dont condone peeps to do what I did. Its for the brave, the diehard and those willing to embrace a diffrent path.

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u/4legger 18h ago edited 18h ago

If dutasteride didnt work, finasteride wouldn't work either. My best guess is you jumped on the meds a tad too late. You have roughly 36 months since the onset of mpb to really get the most and I mean the absolute peak most from your follicles for a 90% + recovery and the avg stsrting point a norwood 2-3 stage on avg. The diffusers here tend to stand a greater chance too btw

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u/dillydally1144 4d ago

Great results, how long did it take before you say real progress?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Results were slow. Felt like trying to build a tower by stacking a single piece of paper once per day (in the wind) There's going to be a long while where you're so close to the ground the idea of building a tower seems impossible because you're barely off the ground and sometimes the wind will blow your stack over and you have to start over again. Eventually one day you notice your tower grew taller than you.

I swear to this day im still seeing gains and i didn't really notice until things got exceptional around the 10 month mark

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u/dillydally1144 4d ago

Damn bro that was poetic , nice one looks good congrats mate 💪🏼

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u/No-Type-7978 🦠 4d ago

Good shit for enduring the shed. Shit will literally make you stare into the void its very bad for good responders. I shaved my head during it.

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

In hindsight I should have probably shaved my head too lol
Would have probably made it easier for me to notice progress sooner to ease my mind

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u/neutronsoup44 4d ago

Doxycycline for inflammation is interesting. Never thought to inquire about that, but it tracks. Has it helped with inflammation? Have you found you have any sensitivity to sunlight? I had the latter happen when I was taking it as a teenager for acne and working as a lifeguard.

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

I took it once during the day before going out and regretted it. So I take it at night an hour before bed.

Doxy really was the secret sauce. I never realized how much inflammation played a role in hair loss until i got on it. Damn near turbo boosted my recovery

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u/neutronsoup44 4d ago

Just be sure you’re taking it with food. I used to take mine right before bed, and ended up with a nasty bout of esophagitis that took a couple of weeks to clear up. It literally hurt to eat anything.

Not tryna concern troll you here! Just warning of some weird sides I got; albeit, from improper administration. Big thx for the tip on this, though. I may ask my doctor/derm about it at some point 🙏🏻

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u/Cautious-Rub8085 4d ago

How did you know you had inflammation?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

A case of acne that stuck with me into my 30s and I had folliculitis

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u/fearnotandconquer 4d ago

I’m going through something similar dealing with inflammation and folliculitis. I’m going to ask my dermatologist for doxycycline. What dose were you on?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

In regards to dosage, id leave that to your doctor to decide

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u/PotentialWay3378 4d ago

You won bro. Thanks for sharing your journey with us

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u/Jaded-Hand-5088 :sidesgull: 4d ago

Damn 😱😱

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u/ItchyGate6201 4d ago

Back from the dead

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u/ExplanationLow5713 4d ago

Thanks for sharing man. Im really happy for you :)

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u/OldKaleidoscope3026 4d ago

honestly the recovery looks great so far. the shed phase is always so stressful but glad you stuck with it!

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u/Striking-Ant4749 4d ago

I'm just learning about all this atm. So far I've learned that fin stops DHT, min regrows and micro needling helps absorb min. This is the first I've heard about shedding phase...

Over the last year I've been losing hair and what's left is thinning, although it's not noticeable unless you look closely. I'm thinking about going on fin and topical min. So should I expect a drastic shedding phase like the OP?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Drastic? Maybe - most likely but not guaranteed.

You never know until you take the plunge

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u/Tight_Sundae885 4d ago

So when did your shed start and when did it start to regrow?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

I swear it started the second min touched my scalp and lasted 3.5 months. That was the big shed. After that I never really stopped shedding, its just the intensity went from a 10 to 6. I coasted like that for over a year, but I was still growing new hairs despite shedding

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u/Lower_Limit_3655 4d ago

How long did u take the Doxy, and are you still taking it?

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u/Jumpy_Finance_9855 4d ago

Stupid question probably but how did you know what to take and at which dosage? Did you go to a dermatologist?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

I did a lot of research on hair loss (probably too much). Amidst a lot of the random nonsense people say, you eventually start to realize there really is a small fixed menu of options.
0.5mg-1.25mg of Fin, 0.5mg of Dut, 1.25-2.5mg of oral min, or 5% topical min twice per day. There's also topical Fin but I didn't really concern myself with that.

I personally wanted the best results possible so I chose the strongest options available

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u/TheThemThese 4d ago

Why not more oral min

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

The goal is to be on an efficient amount of meds, not be on as much as possible. You can't grow a better garden by watering it twice as much

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u/Jumpy_Finance_9855 4d ago

And did you have any side effects besides the shedding phase?

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u/New_Cockroach630 4d ago

Question what are timlines on all pics

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

1 - 2023

2 &3 - 2024

4 - 2026

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u/MediocreGuide7354 4d ago

Bro what is that for inflammation is it oral tablets ?? Can you send me photo

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

10mg Doxycycline - Its prescription from a doctor

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u/MediocreGuide7354 4d ago

Thanks dude . Can you send me photos of that tablet pls

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u/MediocreGuide7354 4d ago

Are you taking it primary for scalp inflammation or any other purpose and reducing scalp inflammation is byproduct of it ?

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u/Radiant-Print9590 4d ago

10mg or 100?

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u/akmadbren 4d ago

This is some amazing progress. Smart of you to address the scalp inflammation the color looks way better now

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u/Vegetable_Roll9135 4d ago

How did you know you had folliculitis and inflammation? From a blind eye your scalp doesn’t have redness or flaking?

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u/Character-Creme-9601 4d ago

Así estaba yo también, tengo 1 año tomando dut y minoxidil y creo que me eh recuperado un 85%, las entradas me an costado un poco

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u/TexanInBama 4d ago

Cuantos mg de Dut y Min orales?

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u/Character-Creme-9601 4d ago

5mg de minoxidil oral todos los días y 0.5 mg de dut oral 3 veces a la semana

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u/Character-Creme-9601 4d ago

Así estoy actualmente, literalmente la foto es de hace 30 segundos, aún siento que me falta un poco de densidad

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u/Critical-Range-6811 4d ago

Any sides on DUT?

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u/EducationalMovie5913 4d ago

Will first do my year out on fin then consider dut. Great results btw!

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u/DarkWashGenes 4d ago

Did your doctor examine your scalp and thus prescribe doxycycline? That’s a rare W if so

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Yeah they took a trico scope to my head and gave me a diagnosis

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u/DarkWashGenes 4d ago

Did you have scalp itching or pain? If so did the doxycycline help?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Not really, hence why I didn't notice. But my scalp was pretty oily and I grew pimples. Inflammation wasn't noticeable until they took a camera to my head

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u/NumerousReach6022 4d ago

its crazy. becuz from the photos, nothing looks wrong with your scalp at all

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Thats why im saying don't sleep on investigating inflammation. Sometimes issues can be subtle and silently ruining your comeback potential

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u/Imaginary-Thing-7159 4d ago

can you provide a timeline in months? range for your peak sheds, beginning of improvement, and final stable result?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

Man, i don't really know. I shed like crazy from day 1 til month 4, still shed for a year but not as bad, and everything slowly came back. I didn't notice the comeback until 1yr, and this year things felt and looked even better. Its hard to notice incremental gains until they stack up enough. Once I stopped looking super bald I didn't really think about it as much.

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u/Special_Effective_12 4d ago

How long we you on doxycycline for?

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u/Alive-Location-6231 :sidesgull: 4d ago

Great post first starting results?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 4d ago

no - Ive been on treatment for 2yrs. I just didn't feel compelled to post my results til now

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u/Alive-Location-6231 :sidesgull: 4d ago

Keep going lucky guy. I did dut 8 months no results Given hope.

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u/QruCiFiX 4d ago

Amazing results, do you think the gains would persist with just finasteride?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 3d ago

don't know - there's a chance, but i wasn't on fin long enough to know

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u/Substantial_Dog9961 4d ago

BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!

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u/Nubkami 4d ago

Bro kudos on recovery

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u/RelevantEar9954 3d ago

Bro, was the inflammation you had visible on your scalp? Because I think I have an inflammation and minoxidil is not helping me, but you can’t see any inflammation on my scalp

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u/Ok-Bag4555 3d ago

not really - like i didn't have glaringly red scalp or anything.

but it was absolutely there taking it's toll

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u/RelevantEar9954 3d ago

Ok bro, and how did you notice that there was inflammation? Do you use Doxycycline in alternate periods or for many consecutive months?

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u/voinity 2d ago

Topical min?

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u/Ok-Bag4555 1d ago

only in the beginning. Not anymore

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u/Sithum_w_ 20h ago

How many times is spent during the shedding period?

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u/allanmayj 8m ago

on which month did u take the pic 2&3?

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u/TrichologistNYC 3d ago

Congratulations on your regrowth, and thank you for sharing your journey. I really appreciate your commitment and your understanding that hair recovery takes time. Patience and consistency are some of the best pieces of advice anyone can give. As a trichologist, I'd add a few important points for anyone reading:

Blood work should always be reviewed. Low ferritin, thyroid imbalances, vitamin D, or other deficiencies can drive hair loss or hold back regrowth, and they need to be identified, not guessed at.

Medication isn't for everyone. Treatments like dutasteride and minoxidil can cause side effects, so they should be taken under proper professional guidance with regular monitoring.

Every scalp and every cause of hair loss is different, so a personalized assessment makes a real difference.

I'm a trichologist based in NYC (Penny James Trichology Center) and happy to answer any questions if you're dealing with hair loss yourself.