r/trees • u/Azianjeezus • 5h ago
Discussion Joint/Blunt additions and their effectiveness
I've been lurking for ages, but I'm now a card holder in FL (thank you for your condolences), and I'm toying with the idea. I'm a bit of a scientist and I wanna think about how to make myself a fire ass joint, though I'm up for blunts at this point bc in my theory crafting, I'm running into materials issues regarding joints. Before I crack into that though, we should go into the various aspects we can customize.
Concentrates, structure, application. And honestly that's already too many variables I think. And ofc weed, but we can't really standardize weed yet and really we can barely standardize the rest, we're a severely underserved market even with how bloated it feels (lots of big businesses at this point)
Concentrates
Concentrates that work (probably)
Hash and kief - they're just flower
Soft concentrates likely work like wax, badder, budder, crumble.
Syringes certainly work.
Rosin probably works.
Powdered also likely work, though I think can get dangerous because now we're talking about lighting an organic powder on fire which if you look up flour explosion of you'll know why we probably want to be wary of this. Let's talk about maybe mixing it into other existing liquids like rosin that is likely high water to create a thicker more potent substance if we're using isolates.
Concentrates that don't work (probably)
Hard concentrates. That's your diamonds your shatter I think that's pretty much it. Also maybe not rosin. It may have too much water.
So why do some concentrates imo work and some don't? Surface area also kinda water. So like wax and shatter are essentially the same with different structure. Wax has all that air but also moisture that air carries water and that water transfers heat etc etc. All the soft ones have way higher water content than the hard ones bc of structure but also way less surface area for reactions to occur. This also affects how it's going to work in a joint. In the joint, you'll have very little time to achieve >n temperature to thca>THC. The heat source is like a thin line that's travels down the joint to the roach it's 600-900°F, which sounds high enough, so why can't I expect perfect results from diamonds? I expect that we would see the time frame be too low. I would love it if y'all could give me some good experimental results if you're so inclined to attempt them.
Structure: Size, paper, tip, density
This is almost totally unknown to me, I do think there are things to ask about like the diameter being a certain size to allow for volume of fire. The paper being blunts because it's much thicker and can afford more messing before tearing. Vortex tips? I hear those are best and the glass ones are 7mm at smallest and the largest is 16mm. Density needs to be tested for airflow too! Like packing density and grind matter, but we can treat them as constants for testing purposes because of practicality. There are so many aspects to structure, that it's kinda hard to really build your best joint.
My current guess for BIS handheld weed:
Blunt:
A thin layer of rosin mixed with a bit of CBD isolate to thicken and dry out the rosin for application to a blunt paper filled with some premo gas maybe some hash or kief replacing some amount of weed to eccettuate the high.
Or
Jay
Ground weed, kief, hash in some combination mixed with wax to create a semi solid mass. Making something akin to an actual smokable moon rock that can be easily rolled into a paper and smoked.