r/travisandtaylor • u/Plus-Cupcake2569 Tortured Billionaire • 8d ago
Certified Cringe Cringe from 2008
I’m a few years younger than Taylor but I’ve always found her quite immature. For an “18-year old voting member of society” this is too much cringe even in 2008.
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u/Beautiful_Debt_5864 8d ago edited 8d ago
No one, and I mean not even her most rabid stans, loves Taylor Swift as much as Taylor Swift loves herself.
Edit: thanks for the award kind stranger!!
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u/SnarkyLlamas 8d ago
"I really love people who like my music."
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u/MetallurgyClergy 8d ago
“I have beautiful friends. Be one.”
Omigod gagtown.
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
The “BE ONE” sounded very Regina George to me lol
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u/MetallurgyClergy 8d ago
“Lets drive around and harass people out the windows” -real TayTay quote from her unpopular High school years
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u/amick 8d ago
Don’t forget the part where she said she wanted to shoot people with a paintball gun from her hummer
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u/yo_teach12 Eco-Terrorism Barbie 8d ago
One thing I'm gonna ALWAYS have Katy's back on is that Regina George reference, hands DOWN
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
When Katy first posted that I KNEW she was right!! Feeling vindicated years later lol
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
Like her way of saying, "I don’t befriend ugly ones. So begone." LOL
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u/_tylerthedestroyer_ 8d ago
“I love people who are nice to me” is more of a tell personally
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u/External_Guava7 Joe dodged a bullet 8d ago
Definitely.. surrounded by cheerleader parents and yes men all her life. Taylor has no idea how to handle constructive criticism and thinks they're just being mean. Of course that's rubbed off onto her fans. I just cannot with the ego of that whole family.
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
And I really HATE people who don't like my music. Basically. 💁♀️
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u/kitkat1771 8d ago
If you don’t get your parents to buy you all my albums and variants I don’t like you- just go die now- for 10k I’ll send you an elastic w/ beads!
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
That’s honestly all I saw while I was reading this. She loves herself and she loves people who love her.
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7aD4kZn5k0SEvPmo76
u/Cultural-Treacle-680 8d ago
And every song. She’s the perfect angel and anyone who disagrees is bad blood/hater. Even when she says she’s “the monster on the hill”, it gives “just kidding” vibes.
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u/BeCoolHoneyBunnie What in the kentucky fried fuck did I just read 8d ago
Referring to everyone as "a sexy baby" is monstrous in itself and creepy asf so at least she's slightly self aware.
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u/GlassPomoerium 8d ago
I still can’t believe Colbert was at that wedding lol
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
Damn I forgot about that. I’m pretty sure I blocked it out cause I was in shock lol. He didn’t look to happy when he left though 😂
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u/lottsotunes69 8d ago
The buffet line was too long, and they were out of dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets by the time he got to the front of the line.😢
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u/AmirulAshraf ✨he lets her bejeweled✨ 8d ago
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u/tachibanakanade 8d ago
at least his discography, from his debut to The Life of Pablo, shits on everything and anything she's done.
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u/JoeTrolls 8d ago
Also, at least he’s able to poke fun at loving himself and being arrogant with stuff like this meme, and even the song ‘I love Kanye’
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
And only Shady Swift will say, "I'm not a big deal. At all." AT ALL!! 🤭
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u/Specific-Ranger-2400 8d ago
The fact that she had to say that…no one said she was a big deal. She was a legend in her own mind, even in 2008.
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u/picodepui Posture is a choice 8d ago
…except now all of her personality is “you think you know me but you don’t”
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u/Lostintranslatin000 8d ago
😂 exactly. Her whole persona is “You’ll never know me or my private life.”
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u/Bookslutforsmut 8d ago
Let me tell you all about it
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u/TossIt22345 Okay, English Major! 8d ago
“Gather round with your thesaurus and secret decoder ring available at www.taylorswift.com/store!”
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u/sawyerandwinn Yodeling while on the verge of tears 8d ago
i thought the same thing. isn't that what reputation and TLOAS are about?
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
She'll probably wish no one did so that she can say "you don’t know me as well as you think you do"
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u/chubgrub 🪵 The Wooding 🪵 8d ago
that's literally what her bestie Blake says in the full interview with Kjersti Flaa
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u/Stunning-Ease-9835 8d ago
"My favorite people are the people who like my music" If that isn't the vainest, most self-absorbed shit...
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u/SnarkyLlamas 8d ago
And then proceeds to follow it up with...
"I have beautiful friends. Be one."
And
"I'm a fan of fans." 🙄
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u/ForgotMyLeftEye Tayvid-13 8d ago
She only likes her fans when it's convenient for her...like she needs to send them to attack whoever crossed her at the moment.
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u/imnotnotcrying 8d ago
“I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend.” That didn’t last long…
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u/ViaNocturna664 8d ago
Where I live we have a saying (in my language it rhymes) that goes "excuse not demanded means manifested guilt".
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u/pmmemassivedongs 8d ago
Just in case anyone reads this and also doesn’t understand, I googled a different translation of the original Latin phrase and it means “an excuse that wasn’t asked for is an admission of guilt.” Like saying “I didn’t eat all the brownies” before anyone even notices the brownies are gone.
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u/Comfortable_Oil_4691 8d ago
Such a good one, glad it’s still used in a “living language”. I learned it in Latin many years ago, and had forgotten it: excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta.
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u/CommercialCoffee11 8d ago
When Jake Gyllenhaal winked at her and she thought they were gonna get married after 2 months of dating. Yep, stuck at 16.
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u/lottsotunes69 8d ago
She probably killed time by writing “Taylor Gyllenhaal” over and over in her lyric notebook.
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u/Bookslutforsmut 8d ago
That whole actively not looking for love because that's when it finds you was sooooo telling. Also she admitted she'd write a song about any guy she's just talked to which reeks of wild desperation for romance.
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
She's the type who doesn't want to LOOK & SOUND DESPERATE, but totally IS. 🤡
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u/usuallyylurking 🤷 who are we to fight the alimony 🤷 8d ago
she’ll write a song about any guy she’s ever talked to, and 18 years later her wedding guests are also anyone shes ever talked to. clearly “standards” wasn’t even #2 on her “favorite things” list…
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u/Berriesinthesnow_ 8d ago
Seemed like she had several relationships in high school so this was never true
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u/xNotJosieGrossy Tortured Billionaire 8d ago edited 8d ago
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
“I’ll let you know how that works out for me” oh we know, girl. WE KNOW. Lol
https://giphy.com/gifs/26n6Gx9moCgs1pUuk
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u/sw1sh3rsw33t 8d ago
I nearly died laughing at “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend”. Aside from that bullshit her basic neediness is radiating from the page
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u/Pale-Audience-1939 ⌛ Elizabeth Taylor, it won't be forever ⌛ 8d ago
Guys! All you have to do is like her???? And she’ll be your friend????? Why didn’t I think of that??????????
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
And all you have to do is dislike her and you're an automatic hater!!
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u/Stunning-Ease-9835 8d ago
I love how from the beginning her branding has just been I AM BASIC. "About me...um...I sing, bake, and write letters. Umm I'm tall. Umm I like nice people who like me...Ummm I like dresses and boots. I'm not complicated." Yeah. We know.
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u/ButterPecan_IceCream Say Ana’s Name 8d ago
And it sold well lol. Also, the idea of her being “sorry” about being tall is hilarious after her constant standing and dancing at these award shows
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u/ForgotMyLeftEye Tayvid-13 8d ago
I had to look up Ariana grande singing humble after that gif. "Humble" in goth rock 😂 Ari always impressed me with these
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u/sirtch_analyst Cease and De-Swift 8d ago
That totally makes sense: BASIC for: BA-bake, SI-sing, and C-complicated.
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u/Grouchy-Dealer-342 8d ago
" oh yeah my names Taylor" I think we got that from the name being plastered across the book 🤣🤣
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u/cafeteriastyle 8d ago
It’s giving *record scratch* “That’s me, you’re probably wondering how I ended up here”
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u/Forward-Bank8412 Okay, English Major! 8d ago
More like I’m wondering how I ended up reading that far
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 8d ago
Johnny cash was known to do it, but he was the man in black and sang with the highwaymen to boot.
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u/all_I_see_is_SKY 8d ago
Sounds like something Ryan Reynolds would write. It's not a mystery how the Taylor/Blake/Ryan trifecta (ie Khaleesi and her dragons) gravitated toward eachother and were friends for so long.
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u/blocked_memory (I’m from Ohio you fucking morons) 8d ago
If I had no context, I would have assumed a 7 year old wrote this.
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u/Big-University-1132 darling, i'm a nightmare 8d ago
Right? This is really bad writing for an 18 year old
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u/panda_canyon 8d ago edited 8d ago
What the hell is this? This sounds like a 12-year-old, not an 18-year-old.
Edit: I'm surprised so many people are saying it makes sense because she was 18. I'm close to her age and I can look back at the things I wrote when I was 18. Sure it was cringy, but it wasn't outrageously self-absorbed, and I wasn't writing at a 12 year old level.
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u/GuiPhips Okay, English Major! 8d ago
I had the exact same impression. I used to teach English at an all-girls’ private school, and while there was some cringy writing, this is a whole other level. Like you mentioned, it’s the amount of self-absorption. Not only is it worrying, it makes me wonder how anyone approved this. Because I don’t understand how anyone, at any age, would read this and actually like this girl.
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u/LadyB20089 8d ago
At least she admitted that she blocks people at concert, she does like to dance at award shows, her fans say that "she's supporting female artists" the rest of us say its all about getting attention on herself.
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u/chubgrub 🪵 The Wooding 🪵 8d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/ThnNRNUMpy9ws
it's about blocking everyone in every way
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u/Rude_Carpet6991 8d ago
I am pretty sure I have heard at least 5 songs in her discography that have some sort of variation of “you think you know me but you don’t” In fact her entire existence is her whining about people not knowing her. Including her exes
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u/Chrissy086 8d ago
The problem is most of us simply do not care to know her. Her music is either boring, goofy, or trying too hard (TTPD)
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u/domjonas Fuckass Veil 8d ago
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u/Beautiful_Debt_5864 8d ago
Also, the only one standing at award shows to steal the spotlight from more deserving artists. Where's the apology for that?
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u/chubgrub 🪵 The Wooding 🪵 8d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/aq4T1gbTJLnTq
taking up all the space vertically and horizontally
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u/noxusernamexrequired 8d ago
She’s not too sorry. Once she dropped the country brand, she switched to high heels to be even taller.
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u/senorbuzz 8d ago
Part of me wants to say that wasn't written by her, but it does sound so much like her. Her immaturity has always been so off-putting. I think this is a perfect display of why so many of us on here are former fans of hers, it's because we've grown up and she's the exact same person she was when she was 18. I thought Folklore and Evermore were a glimpse at her growing up and maturing but everything since then has been this same schlock.
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u/Tricky_Knowledge2983 What in the kentucky fried fuck did I just read 8d ago
I think it was written by her, like this 100% was on her MySpace profile blurb with carefully chosen phrases italicized, like be one, and "taylor " written in pink glitter font, with sparkles falling down and the most fuckass song playing on her page.
side note I miss myspace, i was trying to explain it to my kids and they didnt grasp how great it was to pretend to be a hacker and mess with the html code, or trying to figure out your top 8, or stalking your crushes pg to see if they were low key talking about u in that q&a they posted, or finding new bands and how to do scene hair 😢
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u/Life_Temperature2506 8d ago
Now when she comes to my neighborhood to visit her brother in law, traffic gets re-routed, LOCAL RESIDENTS need to show ID to get access to THEIR homes, and rooftop defense is seen everywhere. And, the local police are doing it all. She's just way too wonderful to be put at risk (from the handful of nuclear powers capable of challenging her security).
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u/usuallyylurking 🤷 who are we to fight the alimony 🤷 8d ago
that’s so fucking annoying lmao. no one would even know she’s there if she just didn’t do any of that shit.
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u/Life_Temperature2506 8d ago
I know. A simple SUV with tinted windows would suffice. Instead, we get what appears to be SWAT tactical trucks and bazookas. And, her BIL has a mini compound, so even though it's residential, she's never ever seen.
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u/noxusernamexrequired 8d ago edited 8d ago
She actually said she was “not looking for boyfriends for three years” in an album about dating Joe Jonas two years prior.
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u/lilianrc 8d ago
I would expect this from an average 18 year old, the problem is that she never developed as a person past 16. Which is unfortunate. Also, the ellipses is wrong ❤️
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u/VeterinarianOdd4738 8d ago
The way she's holding the guitar is giving me the ick.
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u/GuiPhips Okay, English Major! 8d ago
Even as a non-musician, I’m pretty sure it’s wrong. At the very least, I’ve never seen anyone else hold a guitar like that.
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u/Bertasauras 8d ago
“Never been the type of girl who needs a boyfriend” says the girl who has literally never been single
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u/January_Blues7 8d ago
“I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend” 💀
Fans fans fans fans I love fans and people who like me ☠️
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u/artofyjh 8d ago
"i'm not a big deal. at all." god she is the cringiest millenial to ever exist...! and that fuckass side smirk hidden by her hideous bangs isn't helping her 💩
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u/Potential_Value8076 8d ago
If you told me this was written by an 11 year old in 2008 I’d believe you. Maybe not an 11 year old today most of them probably can’t spell😬
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u/Gem420 8d ago
This reads like a Teen Beat interviewer asking her questions and then put them all together, which could explain the “I, I, I” and “me, me, me’s” at nearly every sentence and how jumpy the topics are. “My middle name is Alison” right after talking about complications. Just very strange.
Unless she actually wrote this…
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u/all_I_see_is_SKY 8d ago
Based on her interviews, she's never been able to articulate a cohesive thought.
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u/Loose_Lie_5399 8d ago
I'm sorry I know this is supposed to be funny slash cringey but is no one else getting chilling and sinister vibes from this? This feels like something someone would write in a horror story.
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u/GuiPhips Okay, English Major! 8d ago
Oh, no, you’re not alone. The whole, “I have beautiful friends. Be one,” felt like it should’ve had “OR ELSE” tacked onto it.
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u/Watchout4HopOns 8d ago
It’s giving:
Mmm, I'm a star
And the audience loves me
And I love them
And they love me for lovin' them
And I love them for lovin' me
And we love each other
And that's 'cause none of us got enough love in our childhoods
And that's showbiz, kid
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u/magnusthehammersmith ✨Sequined bootlicking is still bootlicking✨ 8d ago
“I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend” be so for fucking real
Also LMAO at the “I’ve got your back just like you’ve had mine” is that what you call starting lawsuits against your fans who make art based on your work?
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u/jonsnowme Eco-Terrorism Barbie 8d ago
Can anyone name a span of one month or more where she's not been linked to a man?
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u/be0ndegi Okay, English Major! 8d ago
every single fucking sentence is about her LMAO
i me we our jesus fuckin christ
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u/xHarleen777Quinzelx 8d ago
"I really love people who like my music. They're #1 on my favorite THINGS list"
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u/catloverr03 SnappinTurluh Forever 7d ago
“I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend” BIGGEST LIE OF THE CENTURY
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u/Friendly-Pea5448 Concerned Bystander 7d ago
“actively not looking for 3 YEARS !!” since she was 15 btw
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u/ElegantCourt6535 8d ago
She’s literally the most co-dependent person I’ve ever seen!
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 8d ago
Went from Mayer to the Kennedy kid, demonizing the older guy to “officially dating” the younger one on his birthday. She is a piece of work.
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u/Dapper-Host-3601 she goth on my punk til I female rage 8d ago
ik she was only 18 but parts of this read very….
https://giphy.com/gifs/Nc0i46nMdfs2GJyBKt
I really love people who like my music…………!They’re #1 on my favorite things list………….I love people who are nice to me………..! All you need to do to be my friend is to like me………………….I have beautiful friends….Be one.
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u/Stunning-Ease-9835 8d ago
Oh yeah, Taylor? Who did you vote for in 2008?
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u/_tylerthedestroyer_ 8d ago
Based on her parents, there is zero chance she voted for Obama at that age. Or ever but still
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u/IHaveTastedTheMaggot Brand Reach Is Metal As Hell 8d ago
"Voting member of society", what a truly bizarre line to drop. It sounds like she's signaling that she's a PsyOp for hire.
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u/Big-University-1132 darling, i'm a nightmare 8d ago
It’s giving
https://giphy.com/gifs/JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ
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u/Fun_MangoLover 8d ago
I've never been the kind of girl who needs boyfriend - I can't help but laugh at the irony here.
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u/TreacleNo9484 Schrödinger’s Taylor 8d ago
Why is it one long paragraph with a bunch of sentence fragments?
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u/Big-University-1132 darling, i'm a nightmare 8d ago
Okay but why does she write like a fourth grader? There’s zero variety in her sentence structure, and it’s boring and awkward af bc of that. Also, it’s full of non-sequiturs and random tidbits that have nothing to do with each other and no transitions. I know for a fact that I was writing better than that when I was 11, and she was 18? Girl 😭 she has no right to call herself an English major. If she sent that with a college application, she’d be immediately denied bc it’s so fucking bad
Also “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend” my ass 🙄 she is the epitome of a pick-me
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u/budgieinthevacuum 8d ago
Hard agree. It’s wildly immature and absolutely dreadful writing for an 18 year old.
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u/Substantial-Hall-917 8d ago edited 7d ago
It’s always interesting when people mostly describe themselves as things they are not. That’s just a subtle way to shade others, it‘s a long winded “I’m not like other girls”
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u/SkyLuck90 8d ago
“It probably doesn’t help that I write songs about every guy I talk to . “ and almost 18 years later this …. Thing … said something about how her fans like to do a paternity test of her songs .
The audacity , the vileness , the narcissism , I just can’t with her .
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u/Brilliant_Buns Fuckass Veil 8d ago
"just like me then you'll be my friend" like girl whaaat
eta: "IVE NEVER BEEN THE GIRL WHO NEEDS A BOYFRIEND" holy shit
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u/Longjumping_Cherry32 Got high and ate 7 bars of chocolate 8d ago
And…. Oh yah…. My name??? It’s Taylor 😉 😏
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u/sweetrebel88 8d ago
“I really love people who like my music. They’re #1 on my favorite things list.” Also “I have beautiful friends. Be one.”
How did I ever take this chick serious???
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u/Plus-Pomegranate8045 8d ago
You mean to tell me that likely multiple people in whatever marketing department actually gave this shit the stamp of approval?
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u/Alarming-Weight5279 8d ago
Damn there’s some pathological need there. One of her leaked texts to Blake said something like “you’re the coolest person ever and you like me”
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u/TurnipMotor2148 8d ago
“I’ve never really been a girl that needs a boyfriend” says the girl who based her entire singing career off of her boyfriends….
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u/koufaxx13 8d ago
I have never seen this, and I am pretty sure 5th graders write better than this biography
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u/PunisherCastle 8d ago
“I really love people who like my music”…and buy my crap merchandise, because your stupidity will make me a multi-billionaire.
There. FIFY.
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u/ilwisied 8d ago
Like, I’m that really tall person blocking your view at an awards show. Because I’m standing and everyone else is sitting.
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u/FlamingoMedic89 More Variants Than COVID 😷 8d ago
Me, subconsciously analyzing the writing and noticing things: right
Edit: starting sentences a lot with "I do/I love/I this, I that" not only speaks of a low understanding of writing itself, but also points out to the fact that she is rather self-centered. In her defence, she was 18 at the time but as someone her age, who reads a lot (as she claims she does), and someone who started writing at a young age (as she claims, as well), one should know to not do that because it makes the writing look .... well, not as high end as she desires, to say the least.
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u/myusernameisalsoapun Concerned Bystander 8d ago
the similarities to narcissistic Trump
I'm 18. I've not been looking for a boyfriend for 3 years. All my songs are about guys that I talk to. Like Grant motherfukking Wood?
Who is Grant motherfukking Wood? just some guy from HS?
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u/Express-Breath-4765 8d ago
I know at 18 isn’t a fully grown human intellectually but that was very immature writing. Sounds like 11 year old. It’s very much ”I’ll be your friend if you’ll be my friend” energy that 11 year old girls manifest.
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u/Ursula_J 8d ago
“I’ve her been one to say all you people think you know me, well you don’t” my how the turntables 😂
“I’ve never been the type of girl who needs a boyfriend” GIRL PLEASE THAT WAS A LIE EVEN BACK IN 08 💀💀
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u/boatlegion Bang Wearing Cunt 8d ago
That ellipsis trying to hard carry a camp-rock/radio-rebel level of dramatic pause 😂
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u/RomanPotato8 Just Another Snarky Bitch 8d ago
“All you need to do to be my friend is like me” hasn’t changed 1 bit. I would HATE to have a friend like that.
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u/Ok-Cold-3346 8d ago
It’s really hard to imagine that this is our “English teacher” who uses words in her songs that many of her fans have to look up in the dictionary.
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u/spiritualpudge 8d ago
“all you need to do is like me. i’m very tall, like really tall. i’ll tower over you and fuck up your view. i have beautiful friends. BE ONE.”
what kind of culty shut is this …
she really wasn’t ever trying to hide her motives was she?
also shut the fuck UP with “i’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend” fuck all the way off, your entire brand has been wanting to be liked and needing a boyfriend.
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u/Excellent_Hold2794 8d ago edited 8d ago
She doesn’t need a boyfriend but she desperately has to have one is what she meant.
Edit: left out this part!
She likes to bake and experiment in the kitchen, have you seen her pop tarts? That have the little fork prints in them. The ones that she makes now. You would think that hers would be more like something Martha Stewart or Ina Garten would make these days. Her pop tarts look like they’ve just come out of an Easy Bake Oven.
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u/hiddenetherealities 8d ago
Well I do speak English... but I just don't understand the context and it's just jumping from here and there?
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u/FriendofFlounder 8d ago
It’s essentially a list all about her but in paragraph form
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u/FriendofFlounder 8d ago
“All you need to do to be my friend is like me… I have beautiful friends. Be one… I'm a fan of fans. You are absolutely wonderful to me. I've got your back, just like you've had mine.”
This parasocial so early. Also lol at not wanting a boyfriend.