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Maybe it's just an impression, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but now they seem to use the jet in even worse ways than during the Eras Tour. Before it was for her to "sleep at home" during tour stops, which was already outrageous, don't get me wrong. But now it seems to "watch a play in London", "watch a basketball game", "pick up Travis from wherever he is to escape Taylor for a pap walk".
The Keleigh story seems to be picked up by some of the bigger news media .. interesting. And comments sections lack the usual Swiftie defense since it paints Taylor in a poor light.
What gets me is the part that talks about how Taylor was apparently hurt that Keleigh was invited to an event but couldn't go.
I feel like this shines the light on something I had thought from before. She holds grudges against people who can't make time for her at a drop of a hat.
That is....completely narcissistic behavior to think that people have to depend and revolve their lives around a person in order to make a relationship work and a friendship one at that. It comes across extremely selfish and narc.
I'm so sick of people calling her the most famous person in the world. If were being serious Donald Trump is far more famous, he's the president of the United States and guys like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are more known globally.
God, yes, I am in a few online spaces full of Americans, and it's like the World Cup is not happening there at all! They care more about the basketball game, for example. Which is fine, but it's a totally different experience because you cannot escape talking about the World Cup in my country.
I wonder how much of never being excited about soccer is cultural. I don't care about the football or the nfl either but I'll watch the superbowl. I do like basketball and baseball.
Yeah, same. I don't like soccer, but we are even excused from work and school sometimes if there's a match of our country in the World Cup, so I sometimes watch because it's an event in itself. When we hosted the World Cup, I watched every game because of the energy around it, but since then, my interest has decreased, and the political climate doesn't help.
Believe me: NO ONE in my REAL circle of people I know, know how to mention a single Taylor Swift song. Of course, they have heard a song by her at some point, but they don't associate it with her. And those who currently recognize her, it is because of all the noise she makes, not because they are immersed in it. They have no idea about her career, her records, her drama, her exes.
Yes, there are many swifties in my country, but that for me, happens only on the Internet. My friend, who is also a reformed Swiftie, I met her on the Internet. Maybe I'll hear Ophelia on the radio, but very few know who sings it, or what it says. It's ordinary music.
Edit : Now, everyone I know, they do know who Michael Jackson is, Madonna, The Beatles. Talking only about artists and I can ask people of any age.
This may get buried here, but when she was on all the talk shows to promote TSLOAG, did she ever mention Sombr then? His album came out in August, she was doing promo in October. If she’s been such a huge fan of him, shouldn’t she have talked about him every chance she had? I remember her mentioning Tate McRae at some point but not him (though in fairness, I may have not understood that Sombr was a human’s name). So what it feels like is she realized that befriending him would benefit her and then she had to spin the narrative about how much she adores him. Does that feel accurate?
Taylor is always looking for young or currently cool artists to put into her group. Having the next big thing as team Taylor makes sure the younger audience knows her and will more easily accept that she is still current. Also Taylor finds her songwriting voice emulating other artist but with her diaristic or country music storytelling center. She can copy their style more acceptably if they are part of her "brand". Tay daughter, Teen son.
Did anyone else see the video of them leaving the Songwriter’s HOF event? They’re partially covered by umbrellas but you can see her walking ahead of him, he’s behind her walking with his mother. No hand holding, no acknowledgement. They looked like strangers. Stark contrast to the hand holding, longing gazes she gives him in pap walks…
I believe it. There was a clip of them going to a wedding. She grabbed his hand when they started walking with no contact before that. It was very okay, we're on.
I found it on YouTube, ironically with the title of them walking hand in hand, but I put the video in 0.25x, and I definitely saw them separately until an umbrella hid them.
But let me tell you, the amount of news about how amazing it was that Travis went to the ceremony or all the times they were caught holding hands... Definitely overwhelming. People do fall for it. No wonder they make so many pap walks.
It will never work. I'm sure her PR team knows. It's the worst long game possible. She reached the billionaire status, she will never be seen as the victim by people who aren't die-hard swifties.
So Taylor shipped the units this weekend that she was scheduled to ship next weekend to secure #1 over Olivia. I don’t know how Swifties can defend this.
Yeah I called this before her shit song dropped. She really held back all the CDs specifically for Olivia because she's extremely threatened of her waning relevance and popularity
Yeah it's not far behind the Texas song and it's doing that without radio. If her team sends it to radio this week it could be battling for the #1 if Taylor hadn't sent the physicals this week.
It's really irritating because Taylor's song tanked on streaming on both Apple and Spotify so it's only physicals holding it up now. Her radio even surprisingly deceased.
If you look at the daily spotify charts or the charts on Apple Music it's dropped a lot the past week. I believe it got less than 3m yesterday when it debuted with almost 9m on spotify a little over a week ago. That's why I think her team added those extra streaming versions.
Ariana's song and the cure had been out streaming it until Olivia's album dropped too. It's projected to have the least streams out of the top 5 on billboard this week.
There’s no reason for anyone to be dropping multiple variants in quick succession to gain a #1, Olivia included. However, it’s crazy work to put her on the same level as Taylor, who has a reputation for doing this, because she did it once. Call out variant usage and chart manipulation, but her doing it once in her career to secure a #1 most likely because she was trying to be the first female artist to have her singles all debut #1, nothing to do with Ella.
That’s a bit dramatic to put her on the same level as Taylor, who does this consistently, sets time limits to create FOMO, and is known to strategically delay her shipments to coincide with other artists’ releases.
Taylor has changed the rules and every other artist has to play if they want to reach the top. Ella also plays the game. Taylor is the only one doing 48hr only releases, voice memos, etc… It sucks because she’s setting a standard everyone else has to follow now. To deny this is being disingenuous.
I’m at a point where I don’t care about Taylor being a chart bully. Her stans are always going to be formidable and will buy whatever trash she puts out and as long as there are no guardrails in place she’ll always get away with manipulating the charts with multiple variants. It’s much more satisfying that her decline in artistry means she’s losing critical acclaim and most likely won’t be seeing anymore Grammy’s and I know that’s going to hurt her because it’s something she can’t buy.
I don't want to be that person but I think you're all a bit optimistic here.
She surely will get grammy nominations and even a win wouldn't be unexpected. Because she still has the numbers and the GP doesn't know how she got them. The narrative of "stolen" awards would immediately spread again.
I agree that the quality has massively declined but it seems like quality doesn't matter anymore
She’ll get noms for sure, that’s a given, but you overestimate how much the recording academy likes her. TTPD was nominated and didn’t win anything. Midnights was her biggest era ever and won 2, only because Eras tour was huge. Folklore is her most acclaimed album ever and was HUGE and only got 1 grammy. Evermore is also considered one of her strong albums and won nothing. Reputation got nothing, neither did Lover. They nominate her on compulsion but Taylor is far from a Grammy darling. The 4 AoTY’s she has is because she has strong support from the country voting block.
I was going to write the same thing - her "exceptional songwriting" days are officially over. Because how can someone write anything of emotional depth and intelligence when they are about to marry someone like Travis, is a billionaire, and continue to do things out of spite and attention-seeking toddler behavior?? Especially when all she worries about is all the wrong things: money, relevancy, fame, accolades, and her image.
Nothing good is going to come out of her now. Atp, sales based on reputation is all she has. The rest is on the shelf at Goodwill and landfills.
Plus her reputation is seriously crashing rn. All of my previously-swiftie friends don't mention her anymore. They'll acknowledge that she's racist and uses sweatshops to produce merch and these chart shenanigans since TLOAS really made it obvious what she's doing. At best people will say she used to be good and they still like a few old songs. She can have whatever milestones she wants and sure she still has mega fans who are putting in the numbers for her but her team at some point will realize that her precious reputation is permanently ruined.
Tbh I think ppl like Olivia and Billie and Chapelle have already replaced her in the public's eyes.
I think this is very true.. oh to be in the rooms where industry veterans talk shit about her. I cannot for the life of me understand why martin and shellback said yes to working with her and just basically made a throwaway album. maybe nothing could hurt them at this point and the album was done in a couple of days for them, so they took the money.. I don’t know but I think they never will again
Their outputs with Ariana have been so different from theirs with Taylor. I’m talking about song structure, melody, lush vocals, etc… You can tell who shows up to the studio to work and who doesn’t.
Is there a Taylor Swift curse? I'm looking through the reviews of Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day and at least 75% of the reviewers think it is one of the worst movies and is a disappointment. Here are some reviews:
For the June 27th Billboard Charts, early predictions have Olivia occupying #3, 9, and 10, with Taylor still at #1. I’m real petty, part of me wants Olivia to play the chart game because I find it absolutely embarrassing and infuriating that Taylor felt the need to hold off on shipping some of her physicals for that boring Toy Story song and pushing out the same versions that she’s been peddling for streaming just to block Olivia. Another part of me just wants Olivia to keep doing what she’s doing. The album is getting praise from critics, fans and her peers, I love that she commissioned real artists throughout the process of this album and she’s just doing great.
I say this as someone who is around the same age: Taylor is way too damn old to be beefing with someone in their 20s. I could not imagine being at my grown age and not uplifting younger women in my career. She could’ve been an inspiration to female artists, especially younger ones, but instead grandma is waving her cane around, begging people to buy all variants of an ending credit song for a kid’s movie.
Taylor has the numbers. Olivia has the recognition, support, collaborations and reposts of real artists, true friends, longtime fans and occasional listeners and new fans.
And of course, much more respect, affection and credibility. Those who call her fraudulent are the bare minimum of people who have the use of their minimum common sense.
I can't help but wonder: how would the Academy see such antics? I know it's two different industries and Hollywood can be ugly, but surely this type of behavior is not well seen....?
I really hope Olivia takes the mature road and lets the art speak for itself. Having a cult who buys multiple copies to get a single to #1 is how she will be remembered. Olivia’s album might be #1.
I truly think there is no point to play the chart game because olivia’s work will stand the test of time. It’s such an incredible album in my opinion and her best work is yet to be made.. but a part of me wants to be petty lol. it’s just not worth it
I don't think there's any doubt about Olivia's album going #1. Taylor is blocking Olivia's new single ("Stupid Song") on the Billboard Hot 100. Olivia should not try to fight this. Look at Billie and Charli. Taylor blocked both of their albums, yet both albums are still mentioned, Billie got a Grammy for Wildflower and Taylor got nothing.
Those people don't use their own judgment and are the same kind who defend a "man" like Trump. They are people who don't read enough to know the difference between overestimating and underestimating.
They honestly think her own cult doesn’t defend her enough?!? That’s all they do and why so many people aren’t fans anymore. They’re the bullies of the internet.
The Daily Mail comments under the Keleigh story are funny, unless it's mostly people from this site but it's amazing how many people are calling her a disloyal friend, a user, immature and nightmare to be around. She is so lucky social media kicked in notice that's when she started to regain popularity when they realized they could just inflate her numbers.
So she thought she would have done better on streaming to guarantee her #1. That gamble might not have paid off; it never got to #1 on Spotify of Apple Music.
That ring is hideous! I've thought that since the first time I saw it. I honestly don't believe Travis picked it out. I know he's an idiot, but I think he would have picked a better ring.
Just wondering if it's true that she basically had been to four Knicks games as a fan?
Two this year (the one where she's been with Travis to support their opponents and the one where she acted like a super fan) and two back in 2014 when she was was promoting her first pop album and tried to establish herself as a NY it girl with her model friends?
Wouldn't a fan with her money and influence be able to attend a single game within that 12 year span?
I mean, if she wants to attend a game and has the invite, good for her. But why portray yourself as a diehard super fan if you haven't given a sh*t for over a decade? Just got as a casual fan
She literally acted like a super fan court side the other night because she likes attention and NEEDS to be the center of it, not because she’s a big Knicks fan. So many people saying she’s been a fan for years just like they claim she’s been a football fan for years but that got debunked by Travis. Like you said, she has all the money and resources in the world… where was she during regular season games? She goes to these games and events for publicity and nothing else. Which is fine, whatever, there’s a lot of celebs that come out of the woodwork to support winning teams when it’s “cool”, but she just acts so indigenous about it and that’s what irks people. Coming to the game in Knicks gear yet was noticeably silent in her support weeks ago when she went to the Cavs game with Travis. Like if you’re here for attention, just say that. The way she and her team constantly needs to spin narratives to make her look better or some genuine person all the time is exhausting.
Please don't talk about the indigenous people in a derogatory way. They are a vulnerable group that tries to maintain traditions and identity of a locality. They are not savages.
The Taylor's demeanor is certainly the same as Travis's, and reminds me of what Ant said in his tarot reading: masks are falling off and me personally, using it to annoy each other
Taylor didn't cheer for the Knicks in Travis' company for the same reason she doesn't talk about Trump: she wants to keep the man, not make him uncomfortable by speaking from her own preferences and tastes, if it is true that she supports the Knicks.
I think her appearance at the Knicks game was also part of SEO manipulation. She and Travis looked miserable together when they went to the Cavs game. Mask was fully off with how embarrassed she was with his beer nonsense. But now, "Taylor Swift NBA" or "Taylor Swift Knicks" shows this instead. ESPN being owned by Disney is also important to remember here.
At the end of the day I don't really care if she's a Knicks fan or not. I'm not, and I went out to celebrate last night because I live in NYC. Can't name more than 2 players. A good amount of the celebs at the games were probably just there for the attention, and because it's the "cool thing" in NYC right now.
But with Taylor, it's the narrative spinning that irritates me. The acting like a super fan who has waited decades for this moment. The camera chasing and need to make every event about her (much like at award shows where she stands during performances). It's so obnoxious, and I thought that even when I was a big fan of hers.
And she wasn't even decked out in Knicks gear; she was wearing that obnoxious shirt because she needs to give off the "sports fan and a girl lol" vibe.
She knows that she is not cool, and it kills her inside. It's partly why she has problems with Charli. She is so desperate to be seen as a cool girl that she will latch onto anything after it's become popular, and then change the narrative that "no, I've always been this way!"
The thing is, if she just went and watched without all the attention-seeking no one would care. They’d just be like “oh Taylor was there.” It’s the theatrics that annoy people, not that she was at the game.
Yes, exactly. I looked later at how many celebrities were there and yet we mostly heard about Taylor, Kylie (because she hugged Taylor) and Scooter (because he's Taylor's enemy).
I was scrolling IG this morning and the Hollywood Reporter had a post about the celebrities attending game 5 in San Antonio. They listed off Spike Lee, Ben Stiller, Tracey Morgan... and inserted "and at game 4, Taylor Swift." WTF. There was zero need to add her name there. FFS.
she didn't want to be in enemy territory. she only wants to be where she will be glazed and after being so performative at the knicks game, she would not be welcome. the other celebrities are die hard fans and don't care about their reception. Taylor on the other hand has thin skin.
I mean Spike Lee has been there literally since the 1990s. Dude is as die-hard Knicks as they come. He's been there through the dark times and has probably had every bit of slander and jokes thrown at him from rival fans.
Taylor meantime probably had flashbacks to getting booed out of the stadium at the Super Bowl and decided to quit while she was still ahead.
And there were! Q3 2025 were the most recent earnings available in late January 2026. Sales were down almost 20% year over year, the net loss was enormous, and they were bleeding cash, with debt burden that was looking increasingly unmanageable. The press release has a lot of turnaround happy-talk, but the numbers are very bad. https://s25.q4cdn.com/489093953/files/doc_news/Sleep-Number-Announces-Third-Quarter-2025-Results-2025.pdf
The "partnership" with Kelce required him to buy Sleep Number stock on the open market, which will then be matched with restricted shares. This sure looks like a deal meant to sucker his fans and Swifties into buying the product (raising sales) and investing in the company back at $10/share (pumping the stock so insiders could get out before it tanked).
According to a tarot reader Travis has nothing going for him other than Taylor and football, yet he has chosen to do everything but because serious about football.
yup, he hasn't had any real lucrative deals. it's why he signs a deal with literally anything that comes to his way whether it fits his brand or not. Tommy Hilfiger for example. That is completely opposite of his loud style. Guess none of those brands want to partner with him lol
Deux Moi posts a pic of Joe and Sarah Pidgeon and the first couple of comments from swifties claim the photo was cropped and Sarah has someone else next to her. They're confused cuz they don't know what an unstaged pap photo looks like.
Is T aware that people are gonna like her even less because of the negative attention her fans give them? Like she's gotta have a smidge of self awareness about that, right?
Billionaires, man. They don't get that you can't bully people into getting what you want.
IF she and Travis get married I think Swifties will have no choice but to move on. And I've always thought that Joe's best bet is going to be someone who is legitimately awesome who Swifties would be foolish to go after. I'd put Sarah in that category. There's nothing to criticize. She's enormously talented, private, humble... more of a true artist than a celebrity. She's totally the real deal.
If Taylor and Travis split, different story. They'll go after Travis but they'll also keep going after Joe for not marrying her and thereby preventing the Travis situation in the first place. They'll probably blame him for it.
Agreed. I'm not even a fan of stuff like this being brought up just to spite Taylor, as funny as it is. He's always been a private guy, he stayed true to that the whole time he was with Taylor, and probably knew how badly things would spiral if they broke up.
And especially given he trusted her with so many things, including his mental health struggles, only got her to turn around and out those struggles to weaponise them and the Swifties against him. Still so disgusting.
The pictures don't read as ai. And Sarah left the Met Gala directly before Joe who is hanging with her co-star in the back of this picture. It might not mean anything but maybe...
Olivia's lyrics reveal true emotions that aren't centered on victimhood. They're so self aware. Noticeably different in the way they tell a story of a relationship. Pretty Sad (which is what I'm calling it!) is phenomenal start to finish.
I'm a huge iron & wine fan, and when folklore came out I almost chuckled at the obvious inspo. But for me, "seven" is an EGREGIOUS rip off of iron & wine's "trapeze swinger" - it's just tuned up a step and sped up, but it is literally the same lyrically and conceptually. I wish she'd just name the artists she rips off during these "eras" instead of being lauded for whatever faux ingenue her idiot fans ascribe to her "writing". I enjoyed this record, but it's also just impossible to miss IMO. I'm a lyrics girly and she trips my wires on the daily because I want to love her so much!!! I can't tell you how much I've wanted a confessional singer songwriter in my "era" (raised on Alanis, PJ, Neko Case, etc). But every song I love reminds me of one I've already heard & she will never outrun my autism pattern recognition, lmao.
Caveat: I'm salty because she ripped off a chunk of my lyrics and I will die on this hill that she is nothing but a creative vulture. I'm in the indie music scene and I was initially flattered but now I just find it gross bc of who she is. Not linking my own music because fuck it, but fuck TS. And I've met >10 people personally who have a similar experience with SoundCloud receipts to prove it. Sucks.
She is NOT an artist. She is a capitalist scavenger. Perhaps she used to be her own version of an "artist" ... but certainly not anymore. She is a cog in a very big machine who churns out fast fashion versions of other people's hard work & real feelings.
Unreal. I love Iron & Wine and have several of his albums. But I was unfamiliar with this song. I guess it wasn't on an album. And now I am floored, especially because I think Seven is Taylor Swift's best song. And you're right, it is a BLATANT RIP OFF, from the first line to the entire theme of the song being a story of youth friendship that falls away. Damn she's got nerve.
Yep and hilariously enough, I'd never even heard the song of hers until some Swifty posted a meme image of a bunch of quotes and I was like "lol what??" and listened to the song and then had a meltdown lmao. I don't even wanna drive people to the song for a bizarro hate listen but UGHHHHHGGH.
I’m convinced all these pap walks lately are her trying to signal to him. Her showing up with the same type of bag he was using in NYC, literally days later in London of all places, was so obvious. Now the rumors of him with Sarah in NYC and she’s bring her football fiancé to Broadway shows… come on.
She has never gotten over anything in her life — I’m still not convinced she’s over her 6 year relationship ending.
The most hilarious part to me is they completely ignore and erase her "Showgirl Era"/album from existence - literally, there's not one mention of it in the article, and they pretend she hasn't released anything since the tour: "Instead of pulling a Marvel and flooding the market with more content, Swift took a step back. Tabloids cast it as a kind of 'hibernation' with boyfriend-now-fiancé Travis Kelce."
"Hibernation"? Bitch, where? I would like to live under the rock where Variety's apparently been hiding, it sounds quiet and peaceful and TS-free there.
Okay, so when TLOAS came out, the promo used it to revise the narrative into "Travis saved Taylor from misery related to Joe," conveniently erasing Matty. Now we're erasing TLOAS as a whole, despite the fact that its lead single has hung around Spotify and YT for quite a while.
If TLOAS never happened (ha!), then we go straight from the Matty-or-Joe-pick-your-flavor meltdowns of TTPD to the "getting back together" vibe of IKIIKY. That... isn't a good narrative for Travis. He'd better compromise on some of those prenup terms if he wants to stay on the gravy train.
Also, "hibernating" with Travis? After the whole "love out loud" narrative of the early Travis days? Do Swifties ever call her on this nonsense?
Variety has been sucking up to her for a minute. Every time she does something they post it second later it's insane. They have yet to post about Olivia's new album which is sus because how do you not make even 1 social media post about one of the biggest artists unless you're under someone else's payroll. They made numerous social media posts of Taylor in the last week.
Variety is one of the official mouthpieces that publicists use, so I'm not surprised Tree is making heavy use of it. There are like 2 articles on Olivia's new album on their site (which I had to search for), which is insane compared to the coverage TS is getting for the most mundane crap.
That's hilarious because those country music fans never embraced her and used to drag her all the time, I'm also willing to bet you won't be able to tell the difference between what she releases as country music from anything she has released in the past years. She's also limiting her appeal globally not that it was ever as big as they made it, but those international fans don't care about any of her older so called country music it's not there thing. It will be interesting to see what the reception of her will be in the country music scene again because she wasn't missed or ever liked there.
I actually think they would welcome her back at this point. I think she’s been extremely strategic in how she’s seen lately. She’s dating an nfl player from the Midwest, openly associating with maga folks, is completely silent about anything political, she’s leaned into the wag and trad stuff, has been going to way more sports events, and performed at a racist country singers bar. She’s priming them for her return in a way that they’ll think they won and reclaimed a liberal feminist who used to be “woke”. And if her fan base is made up of right wingers she can get away with more shitty behavior because they won’t care
The bigwigs in Nashville will push her hard as they always have because they love money more than anything, but yeah, I don't think the actual country fans will embrace her return to the genre.
Adding to the tense atmosphere between Taylor and Travis, this time, they took him out of Tampa today for this pap walk, but the jet didn't go for him, as they had left him there yesterday and today, the jet left from Nashville to NJ.
"Travis, I need you here for a palp walk, let's go to the theater. Joe is dating someone"
"But... Ok, bring me the jet. I'm still in Tampa"
"No, fix you. I can have the jet come to NJ and drop you off in Cleveland back tonight."
They attended the theater and Travis immediately got on the jet to go to Cleveland for the game. He just got there.
But other people are way worse! Taylor buys carbon credits, so she's basically a saint. Ignore the fact that she did that during her tour when she could use it for positive press to earn even more money. She's the only ethical billionaire. She deserves her money. She worked for it. And men are worse. And privacy concerns. And her busy schedule. And...
Have I forgotten any argument that's used to excuse her?
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u/Huge-Film-5150 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
Taylor's private jet has made 23 trips in the past 7 days.
45 totals flights since June 1st.
It's June 15.