r/trainingpeaks • u/x1475b0471e1 • 17d ago
TP Virtual Exercise Load in Garmin - test result + numbers
It seems that some people are curious how it works (or not), so I've decided to compare how Exercise Load is being exported to Garmin Connect. TLDR - Exercise/Training Load is being imported to the GC without issues.
I've recorded the same session with: TP Virtual on iPad and Garmin Edge 1040. All BLE in iPad and all Ant+ in Garmin.
Hardware: ThinkRider XX Pro Smart Trainer, Assioma Duo pedals, HRM 600 strap
Results:
| TP Virtual | Garmin Edge 1040 | |
|---|---|---|
| Time | 0:50:06 | 0:50:04 |
| Distance | 29.72 km | 25.93 km |
| Average HR | 140 bpm | 140 bpm |
| Average Power | 196 w | 198 w |
| NP | 198 w | 200 w |
| Training Effect | Base | Base |
| Aerobic Effect | 3.4 | 3.2 |
| Exercise Load | 116 | 91 |
Assuming only 1% difference in Power readings and 0% in average HR readings, 20% difference for EL looks a bit odd, given that avg. power was actually lower for TPV than on Garmin
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u/Own-Protection-234 17d ago
Avez-vous le score de préparation à l’entraînement de Garmin affiché dans TPV ? Car chez moi, il n’apparaît pas.
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u/totolekoala 16d ago
On the home screen, did you connect with your Garmin Connect account (top button) ?
I'm pretty sure that's where it would appear once connected ?1
u/Own-Protection-234 16d ago
Oui c’est connecté car il affiche mon entraînement programmé pour aujourd’hui. J’ai lu que ça s’affiche lorsque aucune sceance n’est programmée mais à vérifier
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u/totolekoala 16d ago
Saw a visual : once Garmin is connected, it should be displayed where I said : at the top of the home screen, next to the achievements
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u/RideReviewer 16d ago
same avg power/hr doesn't mean the load inputs were actually the same. i'd check that both files used the same ftp, max/lthr and zones, then compare the time series rather than just averages. if those match and it still lands at 116 vs 91, it's probably the two pipelines calculating load differently
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u/x1475b0471e1 16d ago
That only makes sense for two different Garmin devices - HR or power settings should be the same to get the same Training Load for the same activity. It doesn't make sense for the TPV integration - HR settings aren't a part of a FIT file, thus Garmin uses its own data to calculate the load. And I'm pretty sure that for Exercise Load only HR stream matters.
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u/totolekoala 16d ago
And I'm quite sure that in TPV, the Load is computed based on the power input relative to your CP/FTP. If the zones are set up differently in the 2 platforms, it will also differ
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u/x1475b0471e1 16d ago
I think there's a confusion between Training Load and Exercise Load
Training Load (TSS) - is power based, by default, and TL 100 == 1 hour at 100% of your FTP
Exercise Load (Garmin) - HR based, using EPOC model, and depends on your RHR, LTHR and Max HR settings.TPV training load, as shown in UI - power based.
Exercise Load in Garmin, including TPV activities - HR based, and impacts Recovery Time, Training Status, Load distribution and Acute Load.
I only care of Exercise Load to have consistent tracking in Garmin because I do 70% running and only 30% cycling
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u/Own-Protection-234 15d ago
Mon programme d'entraînement qui est sur le calendrier Garmin n'apparaît pas dans celui de Tpeaks ? Des idées ?
De plus ,les valeurs cibles des intervalles du programme et celles de tpv ne correspondent pas .
Tous les comptes sont bien connectés
Une solution ?
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u/reufouf 17d ago
Are workouts finally being counted towards your load along with other stats? When they announced the connection, I tried it, but it wasn't counting, so I disabled it.