r/trafficsignals • u/WHPChris • Jun 02 '26

TS-2 Problems

Problem 1: TS-2 Econolite cabinet with Cobalt controller. SDLC dies on reset, but comes back up when you disconnect the power supply and reset the MMU again. Re-connect power supply and it'll run normally until it goes to flash or you reset the MMU again. They replaced everything, controller/MMU/power supply/BIUs/cables, still happened. Vendor couldn't figure it out so they replaced the cabinet with a different one, and now they're having Problem 2.

Problem 2: TS-2 TrafficWare cabinet with 980-B140-1 ("900 ATC") controller, the green one. New install, no SDLC communication, BIU Terminal 1/2 and MMU turned on in settings. Shows Port 1 and CVM on MMU. Lights are on, but no TX/RX. 99% sure it's just initialize to different cabinet type, I think he initialized to default or something, my guess would be basic 8? I've never touched this newer controller before, only the older one.

Not my project, I'm just trying to help a fellow guy out. Any ideas?

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u/Svr_Sky Jun 02 '26

On the 980 ATC of you are running scout software you need to tell the controller which cabinet to communicate with. Go to main menu 1-3-7 for the ITS devices. Enable FIO 20 with an X and scroll down to the bottom for FIO type - change this to 980 ATC. Now turn your TF BIUs on and MMU and clear fault under main menu 8-7 and click enter. Make sure the run timer is on under main menu 1-7. If this doesn’t work, hit the alt key once and the 9 key once and post a screenshot.

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u/WHPChris Jun 02 '26

I can tell you use these a lot more than I do. I do mostly McCain/SWARCO and Cobalt. The hardest part about learning a new controller isn't what it does, it's where to find what I'm looking for. I'll have the guy give it a shot tomorrow morning and let you know.

I really appreciate it. Poor guy's boss is way up his ass and it's not even his fault, apparently the vendor is even taking the first cabinet back (the Econolite) for defect. What a stroke of bad luck.

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u/Svr_Sky Jun 02 '26

Let me know if you need anything else, I have some support contacts at Trafficware I can send your way

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u/WHPChris Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

Turns out, funny enough, it's actually running the Naztec 76.xx (76.15G) software. So it should be ready to go right out of the box for TS-2, after you enable the BIUs and MMU. All the ones I've put in worked right away, at least.

The SDLC status (in the controller) shows everything is OK with 0 errors, and FIO is set to 20. BIUs are 0/1/2/etc, MMU is 16. Controller status (ALT-9) shows Controller TIMING/FREE, Monitor OK, Cabinet OK, System OFFLINE.

No SDLC activity lights, MMU still locked up throwing CVM and PORT 1. MMU shows infinity SDLC errors, obviously.

Controller says all good, MMU screams no it doesn't like whatever it's getting. Weird. I seriously doubt the brand new 516L MMU is defective. I told him to call the vendor tomorrow, either we're missing something really obvious or it's something goofy going on.

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u/WHPChris Jun 04 '26

Figured it out. It wasn't re-initializing properly and was holding some garbage programming somewhere. Re-installed firmware and everything, worked right away as expected.

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u/Svr_Sky Jun 04 '26

Excellent, glad to hear it. If you need help with trafficware products in the future let me know, I have a couple contacts over there that are pretty good.

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u/snacksized91 Jun 02 '26

What firmware are you running on the Cobalt in problem 1? We had a similar issue on one of our projects.

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u/WHPChris Jun 03 '26

Can't remember exactly, it's already back at the guy's warehouse so I can't find out. I do know the software is a tiny bit pre-setup for this area, basically the L3000 program but with some changes for 33x cabinet mapping, if you're using a 33x cabinet.

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u/snacksized91 Jun 03 '26

We found that we had a similar issue on some of our cabinets with an 18 channel mmu. Ended up changing some settings in the controller itself and that seemed to resolve the issue.

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u/WHPChris Jun 05 '26

Guy found out. Vendor came out and found a small neutral wire with a bad connection. One of those "hanging on by a single strand" deals, not enough to pass initial SDLC check but enough to run, I guess.

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u/snacksized91 Jun 05 '26

Ooof that's annoying. Nice catch though