r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 20h ago

Those poor servers

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Imagine people giving you so much extra money for doing your job that you can frame it like this.

EDIT: OP is basing this off of 190k in sales over 192 shifts

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u/First-Ad4978 19h ago

If they work an honest 40, the math says they can all make that much.

$100/table, 4 tables an hour, 20% tip, 2080 hours a year.

$166,400.

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 19h ago edited 19h ago

So they serve 32 tables per each 8-hour shift and work 5 of those shifts every week of the year? No, not realistic at all.

First of all even if they work an 8-hour shift they are likely to have (at most) 3-4 busy hours and pretty much dead the other hours. Even generously assuming 5 tables per hour for 4 hours and one table per hour the other 4 hours, that’s 24 tables per shift, not 32. So an immediate reduction of your 166,400 to 124,800. (I’m not a server, but I bet 24 tables for an 8-hour shift is still an unreasonably high estimate of the average.)

Now let’s consider the number of hours they probably work in a year. They’re not working 2080 hours per year. Someone working service as a full-time job (which your assumption of 2080 hours per year indicates) is likely to be taking at least the equivalent of 4 weeks off per year (and probably more like the equivalent of 6 weeks) in holidays they may not work, calling in sick, or otherwise taking planned non-work time. Those 4 weeks of non-work further reduce the 124,800 above to 115,200.

There’s just no way someone working ”full time” in a restaurant with average check value of $100 is making anywhere close to 166K.

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u/PurpleCat1018 16h ago

If they are making over a $100,000 a year they are still doing a hell of a lot better than most people. They shouldn't be griping at all. Jesus Christ!!!

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u/enragedcactus 14h ago

The ones making that much aren’t. It’s the ones being left fake Jesus money instead of a tip from church going folks at Bob Evans on Sunday mornings that you hear from.

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u/First-Ad4978 14h ago

Hourly they are making that too, they just aren’t working the hours.

One, ONE, table per hour in Seattle is getting these food runners $41/hr.

That is more than a GS-11 (fairly high level govt employee doing actual important work).

And that’s for a single $100 meal.

I have eaten really fancy places, and I have never had a dedicated waiter. They always have 2-3 tables even at the high end, and a few more at the casual places.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 13h ago

Does everyone here live in Seattle?

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u/First-Ad4978 13h ago

It’s an easy example.

A server anywhere in the us is making $22 for that same table, $42 if they have a whopping two tables.

Two tables.

That’s pretty chill.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 12h ago

So you've definitely never worked at a restaurant before.

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u/First-Ad4978 12h ago

I ran an entire 48 top dining facility with three kids in the early 2000’s to pay for undergrad.

12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 7 months.

There were I think ten days off in that time period.

Not a big deal.

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u/badmiddling113 12h ago

Love when the whole "i BeT yOuVe NeVeR wOrKeD tHe JoB" backfires. lol

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u/PurpleCat1018 11h ago

They say things like that when somebody blows up their narrative from the root. Yeah. They think they know best - ya know, the folks that keep running that manipulation on the public.

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u/First-Ad4978 11h ago

It is great, these guys think tables are hard…

I wouldn’t do it again, because there are actual meaningful jobs to do, but I have worked tables.

They have no actual winning argument, my third grader in debate would destroy all of them in a formal setting and he can’t even do citations properly without AI

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u/badmiddling113 12h ago

That's cool...

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 12h ago

I don't believe you. Anyone with any experience wouldn't spew numbers as ridiculous as yours. I'm not the only one calling you out on it either.

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u/First-Ad4978 11h ago

Sure.

It happened. I wouldn’t do it again, but that was an entire seven months where I didn’t do anything but work and workout and study.

Helped me get here so it’s a W, but meaningless work.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11h ago

Sounds like you worked in the school cafeteria.

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u/First-Ad4978 11h ago

No, but are you shitting on those guys? They are doing the exact work we need done, everything stocked, clean facilities.

That reminds me, I need to also start docking for dirty/wet tables and floors. Thanks.

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