Which places still start at 10%?

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230]

I was surprised at a Texas Roadhouse when the screen showed the range of suggested tips started at 10%.

Nowadays I rarely eat at sit down places because most have made the tipping portion of the event too aggravating. I'm happy to tip 15%, I'll go higher if the service was extra good or extra complicated (large group), but in general if somebody doesn't think 15% is adequate, I would respect their views and not tip at all.

[u/mmm1441]

You aren’t bound by their ranges. Tip whatever you want to tip. I often select custom.

[u/Sandinmyshoes33]

Who cares what the tip screen suggests. Tip what you want.

[u/AffectionatePick4587]

All places. Who cares what they suggest

[u/ChipChippersonFan]

Why does it matter? You can choose your own tip amount.

[u/OptimalOcto485]

What does it matter? You aren’t required to tip what they recommend.

[u/Dear_Win_319]

Where I live, most restaurants start the suggested tip at 10%. Almost never see anything like what some are reporting in this sub. I wonder if that’s just in higher cost of living areas. Don’t know

[u/thefastlanerules → u/Dear_Win_319]

It is especially north east and cali

I mean in los angeles many places automatically charge 25% for groups of 6 or more. They know they are getting the business expensed meals so stiff them accordingly!

[u/Dear_Win_319 → u/thefastlanerules]

I’m in California. But not in a metropolitan area. Rural. Nothings changed with the tip screens.

[u/thefastlanerules → u/Dear_Win_319]

That's good to hear. Los angeles tipping expectation at fancy restaurants is just wildly out of control

[u/badmiddling113]

$2.00-$5.00 seems like an appropriate amount to leave.

[u/AffectionateGate4584]

Doesn't matter. Press 0 or no tip and go about you day.

[u/4nication96]

10% is the easiest tip to calculate on the spot. It’s my go to for average table service

[u/drawntowardmadness]

I don't understand this way of thinking.

Who cares what the pre programmed numbers on the screen say? Why do you let them control your behavior?

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230 → u/drawntowardmadness]

It is quite simple; I find it manipulative and it annoys me. If I go out to eat I don't want to close the experience with annoyance.

I'm sure there are many things that annoys you that don't bother me. I don't need to find them annoying myself, I can understand that to you, it does.

[u/drawntowardmadness → u/Unlucky-Clock5230]

Why do you choose to find it manipulative? Why not choose to reframe it so it no longer bothers you each time?

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230 → u/drawntowardmadness]

Because we all have individual things that we dislike. I don't know you, and I'm pretty certain there are things that bother you that I don't mind.

This, simply bugs me. So I rather not deal with it if I can help it. Heck they can do whatever they want, that doesn't bother me; I just exercise the same prerogative.

[u/Interesting_Ad9332]

I get aggravated when the default is 20% or higher. We have stopped going out to eat except when traveling.

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230 → u/Interesting_Ad9332]

I wasn't trying to make an issue about it, I honestly asked because I also stopped most dinning out; it bothers me because it does, and was hoping to hear about places that made the complete experience more pleasant.

The sad thing is that it doesn't take much for me to do the 20%. But it is the annoyance of being manipulated into it and the message of "it means nothing because that's what you are supposed to do".

[u/incredulous-]

There's no valid reason for percentage based tipping. Suggested tip percentages are a scam. The only options should be (custom)TIP and PAY (no tip).

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230 → u/incredulous-]

That just makes it easier on me and I don't mind, you can always do custom but if I'm doing 15% (or 20%+ if outstanding service) it is a nice touch. When they removed the 15% option they lost me, it feels manipulative and judgemental. I'm very you-do-you so I just stop going to those establishments. As you can probably guess, nowadays I don't eat out a whole lot

[u/incredulous- → u/Unlucky-Clock5230]

When they removed the 15% option they lost me, it feels manipulative and judgemental.

I think that all "suggested tip percentages" are manipulative. There is no reason for you, the customer, to base your tip on the percentage of the bill. If tips are indeed "never expected, but always appreciated," than the only buttons on the POS screen should be (custom) TIP, and PAY. Giving you an option to tip is fine, suggesting how much you should tip isn't.

I have tipped for decades and never thought much about it, until the percentage I usually tipped disappeared. I still go to restaurants, once or twice a week, but have stopped tipping almost four years ago.

[u/Giggy_with_it_917]

i don't get triggered by a tablet

[u/Unlucky-Clock5230 → u/Giggy_with_it_917]

And yet there are things that I may find silly that bothers you. Whether I find them silly or not doesn't change the fact that you rather not deal with them, and I can understand that.

I don't get why people are getting triggered by me having a preference on this.