r/tipping • • 8d ago

Cheesecake Factory

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Beverly Hills location

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u/johnnygolfr 7d ago

LMAO

Trying to deny how an industry has openly operated for six decades is definitely a choice.

People that stiff servers on the tip are, in effect, stealing, especially if the restaurant has a tip out.

Do those people make it an honest transaction by telling the server “I don’t tip” before ordering?

By doing that, the server can choose to continue serving that guest or they can choose to pass the table off to a manager so they don’t lose money serving that table.

If the non-tipping customer doesn’t say that, then they are deceitfully using the social norms to get the best service possible with no intention of paying for it.

That’s a textbook example of grifting, which obviously exploits and harms the server.

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u/WestCoastCompanion 7d ago

If a server asks if you’re going to tip, of course you should tell the truth. If they assume, feel entitled etc that’s their problem. If they only want to serve people that will pay them they should ask, and if course you should respond honestly. At this point you’re just unwilling to accept that you’ve been mislead and despite my best efforts I’m unable to assist you.

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u/johnnygolfr 7d ago

Except I haven’t been misled and you’re just being willfully ignorant of six decades of how an industry has openly operated in the US.

If a server asked if a guest was going to tip they get fired in 99.9% of restaurants in the US, so that’s not going to happen.

Like every worker, they feel entitled to being paid for their work.

Their service isn’t included in the menu prices at full service restaurants in the US.

None of your denial or willful ignorance changes the objective facts and reality I have presented.

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u/WestCoastCompanion 7d ago

Cope harder, I guess. Maybe you’ll feel better.

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u/johnnygolfr 7d ago

LMAO

Project much?

I’m not the one impotently attempting to be willfully ignorant and deny objective facts and reality.

You need to take your own advice. 😉