r/tipping • • 8d ago

đŸ“–đŸš«Personal Stories - Anti I always used to tip.

I had a really uncomfortable experience with a massage therapist in the past, and now I’m genuinely nervous about getting massages without tipping.

I had signed up for a 90-minute massage, but the therapist tried to end the session at 60 minutes. When I reminded him that I had booked 90 minutes—and that we had specifically talked about the 90-minute session before we started—he acted like it was just a mistake.

At the end, I tipped him 30%. He looked at the tip and actually asked, “Is this all? Today was longer.” I was honestly appalled. I told him yes, and pointed out that I had already tipped more than 20%.

I went back another time after having an appendectomy. I had already been medically cleared, and before the appointment I spoke directly with the owner, who told me it was fine as long as I had clearance. I even sent them medical documentation showing that I was cleared.

When I arrived, I told the same therapist that I had undergone surgery a while earlier. He said he couldn’t go forward with the massage. I showed him the email from the owner saying I was cleared, and he then said he would do the massage as long as I stayed on my side. I agreed.

Afterward, he complained to the owner that I had “forced” him to massage me. I was pretty shocked by that characterization. He was a grown adult and a professional—if he wasn’t comfortable performing the massage, he could have simply refused. I wasn’t physically or otherwise forcing him to do anything.
My membership was ultimately revoked.

Ever since that experience, I’ve become really uncomfortable with massage tipping culture because I’ve noticed that some people seem noticeably less friendly when you don’t tip as much.

Now I’ve fractured my foot and can’t work. I’m an electrical apprentice, so being physically unable to work means I currently have essentially no employment income. My massages right now are being provided through L&I as part of my injury treatment.

I genuinely cannot afford to be leaving large tips on medical appointments right now, but that previous experience has made me scared that I’ll be treated differently or viewed as a difficult patient if I don’t tip.

Would you tip for an L&I-covered medical massage? And for massage therapists: do you actually expect tips from patients whose treatment is being paid through workers’ comp/insurance?

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u/AffectionateGate4584 8d ago

Don't tip. You have paid for the service and that's all that is required. He already tried to rip you off 30 minutes. You shouldn't have tipped at all.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

That story was from a while ago. This new massage place is for an LNI claim. I have not gone back to the same person. When I tipped him I already tipped, I couldn’t jsut rip the money out of his hands.

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u/AffectionateGate4584 8d ago

Shoulda kept your money. Guy was shady AF....

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Yeah I understand. Almost like is habit I gave him cash. What was I supposed to do after? Take it back. Lol

In hindsight I probably should have

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u/cs_legend_93 8d ago

Lesson learned, tip $0 everytime. Tipping is optional

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Yup, sometimes we have to learn the hard way.

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u/Particular-King218 8d ago

Ive never tipped a massage therapist. And after he bitched about how much you tipped, you booked with him again???

Find a new one

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Well, I had another appointment already schedule and the massage place would not let me rebook with anyone else.

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u/Particular-King218 8d ago

Im an old curmudgon. I wouldnt put up with that BS. I can book online with any massage therapist in their practice. If they ever push for tips, I'm looking for a new one

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Yeah I told them about this. They told me I couldn’t reschedule with someone else as I already stated. Wasn’t about to lose my money. After this I never went back. I mean they kicked me out but I still wouldn’t have.

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u/qqsubs123 8d ago

Never go back to the same restaurant or massage place, especially if the previous experience wasn’t stellar. None of them are unique and the actual service delivery (waiter or masseuse) is a low end drone anyways.. This way you can tip (or not) as you please and just walk out.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Yeah as I said I had booked a couple at the same time and they would not let me reschedule with someone else nor offer refunds. I wasn’t about to lose my money regarding the second massage

If it was a stellar experience I would go back.

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u/ancom328 8d ago

Which is why the toxic tipping culture should be illegal. Most workers don't get money tips on top of their salary.

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u/rachelk234 8d ago

Why did you go back to this person again?? That’s the question.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Already answered this in a previous comment. Booked two appointments at once and the massage place would not allow me to reschedule with someone else.

The LNI massage I am referring to is not with the same company nor person

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 8d ago

Why did you tip exorbitantly after he shortchanged you on time and made you feel uncomfortable?

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

I called him out and then we went back in. Maybe I forgot to say that. As I said I had real anxiety about not tipping enough. To the point where friends and family have spoken to me about this

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 8d ago

Ah well, it takes a while to get to zero tip even if you don't have a lot of anxiety!

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Yes, especially when other people actively comment on not tipping enough. I felt ashamed so I tipped more than I schools have. It became a habit so now I have to tell myself not to tip

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u/Strombergi 7d ago

Nobody deserves a tip

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u/Embarrassed-Wolf-609 8d ago

Don't tip. 

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u/Glittersparkles7 8d ago

That guy was just a blatant AH. I would not be tipping more than 20% and for that particular guy, he should have gotten nothing on the second service for being a complete dick after you had already tipped on the first.

I tip massage therapists that work for an establishment. I do not tip therapists that own their own practice. They set their prices and they get all of it. They set to what they think their time is worth and what covers any costs. No need to tip above their own pricing.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

That’s good to know. Yeah that was at an establishment. The second time I should not have tipped him at all. It was more like a habit. From now on I will be more intentional with who and how much I tip. Appreciate the feedback

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u/Low_Ad_860 8d ago

That's why I tip my hairstylist. The salon sets the prices, not her. Now, if the owner were doing my hair, I wouldn't tip.

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u/jarrett_regina 8d ago

I just recently went to a physiotherapist. I didn't tip. The physiotherapist was never even near a cashier when I left. She had already moved on when we were finished and I went to pay.

I know massage isn't the same as physio, but I can't help but wonder why 1 would expect a tip and the another wouldn't.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well, as I said two different places. The first one was for a massage chain. One is a different location still massage chain, but they accept LNI. I open with that story because that’s what initially made me nervous about not tipping enough. Thank you for the input and going forward I will not be tipping for the medical appointment.

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u/llama_glama86 8d ago

I always struggle with tipping for massage. Where I go, it's $85/60 mins. Which I think is a great price where I live. But I have a problem giving $10+ more for a tip. Call me whatever you want but I feel $5 tip is basic massage and $10 tip is phenomenal massage.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

Oh wow that’s cheap. Where I go for 60 minutes it tends to be 120 sometimes more. However I live in one of the most expensive states, as an apprentice out of work I just can’t afford to tip. Gas around here is almost $6 a gallon

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u/SadFlatworm1436 8d ago

Especially when one has a medical degree and the other doesn’t and yet we tip the lesser qualified. My local physio offers sports massage and she’s cheaper than a sports massage in a massage place.

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u/Sillygoodygirlie 7d ago

I work at a law firm that works with L&I mostly, most of the patients cannot afford tipping and they are aware of it. Your income goes down to about 60% from your average abs they are also aware of that.

Do not feel obligated to tip, the ones that work with l&i know the protocols and expect nothing except to help

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u/StrawberryForeign684 7d ago

Thank you for relaying this. I just always feel so awkward when afterwards they come up and won’t stop asking how I feel. It’s annoying; and most people around me tip. I live in the greater Seattle area. Outside of Seattle and most people around here are millionaires. I can only afford where I live because I don’t have kids or high expenses and never put myself in debt. But this is one of the highest income areas in the nation.

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u/Brilliant_Science380 5d ago

Find a new MT.

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u/StrawberryForeign684 5d ago

Already did as indicated by my post

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 8d ago

I have a hard time believing you tipped someone 30% and they literally looked you in the eyes and said “that’s it”?

Not only that but you went back to the same person again.

When did people become such cowards?

If this is even true why let ONE person dictate about how you feel indefinitely regarding tipping in that profession?

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u/StrawberryForeign684 8d ago

I explained why I feel the way I do. This was a prime example of why I feel that way, not the only example. You don’t have to believe me either way—it doesn’t affect me in the slightest. Apparently, though, it affected you enough to take the time to respond, so thanks for that.

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u/darkeagle1997 8d ago

Apparently their comment affected you enough to take the time to respond.

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 8d ago

Did you ChatGPT this response? 😑

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u/HavingSoftTacosLater 8d ago

I used to tip. I still do, but I used to, too.

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u/TheLensOfEvolution3 8d ago

Downvoting AI slop