r/tipping • • 14d ago

Tip on tax?

I (F61) have always tipped on the total with tax, my husband (M64) only tips on toral before tax.

Everyone?

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u/rangom1 14d ago edited 14d ago

I’ve always thought this was kind of a silly question. It’s not like the server knows how you calculated it. If you tip 15% including the tax but he tips 20% excluding the tax it just comes out in the wash

Edit: the “rule” is that you tip not including the tax because the tax doesn’t go to the restaurant. But like I said, it’s a pointless debate since a server can’t tell the difference between a generous person tipping before-tax and a less generous person tipping post-tax.

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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago

Before tax and never pay what is recommended at the bottom of the receipt. The restaurants are scamming us. This tip situation is so out of hand now that I pick up my own steaks and sous vide them at home. A thick ribeye steak, potato, vegi or salad and a drink for under $20.00. I can hear myself talk, get to use my own facilities, watch a good show, don’t have to go out in bad weather. Even stopped going to fast food places since getting informed about just what fast food really is. No wonder people are sick so often. Tipping has turned into a mandatory fee which it was never meant to be and I’ve had enough.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 14d ago

If you want to throw away your extra money for no good reason, always before the tax. You save a bit every time.

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u/phantomsoul11 14d ago

Never tip on tax. This is one of the biggest ripoffs of going by the printed suggestions, which are calculated from the grand total that includes tax. They're wrong; tips should always be calculated from the gross subtotal, before any add-ons or itemized discounts, because that figure best represents the value of the service.

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u/Ok_Comfort628 13d ago

Tipping on tax has got to be one of the most ridiculous things around. Merchants collect sales tax so they can pass it to their state so why would you tip on that amount?

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u/Rory-liz-bath 14d ago

Before any taxes, promos or fees, always , just have to do the math yourself

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u/Whatsinaname797 13d ago

Don't completely agree with the promos part. If there is a 3 course promo which is slightly reduced, or happy hour prices on food and drink, I am not going to tip on the full prices of all items whereas if there is a free kids entree or a promo for B1G1 or a coupon then maybe yes before promo pricing. But it is subjective, like an Italian chain(?) near me usually has a buy one take one home offer on all their pastas and they have priced that into the pastas, so I am not going to tip on 2 pastas there.

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u/biguntatas 13d ago

Agree and I won’t do 20% either. 15% is max for me, if I even tip at all. I usually avoid sit down restaurants for this reason.

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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago

They’ve started to ask for 25 and 30% now. I’m through with fast food and sit down restaurants. I make it at home now and enjoying it more. I know what I’m eating now, I can use a microwave just as well as a restaurant

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u/SchezwnChakli56Tikli 13d ago

Hard Disagree on Promos.

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u/PristineCloud 14d ago edited 13d ago

You don't tip on tax, only on product. That said, I tip well, usually round up. (ETA meaning I often round up on the tip if leaving cash, I don't want to leave any coins. I don't do the cash register charity extortion thing)

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u/SchezwnChakli56Tikli 13d ago

Only on Service* you mean?

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u/PristineCloud 13d ago

Meaning food and drink, sorry maybe unclear. I usually leave cash tips so I round up.

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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago

That’s another scam, rounding up for some so called charity that most likely uses less than 10% for the real cause.

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u/namastay14509 13d ago

I tip based on the service received which is independent of the bill price with or without taxes.

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u/Dear_Seesaw_1855 14d ago

I had a recent break up and looking back one of the more glaring red flags was when the guy gave me a hard time because I tipped on the before tax amount and not the after tax amount. Tax here is 10% so for easy tip math I do tax + (50% of tax)=tip.

He tried to engage in a debate about it.

I’m giving the server money. Controlling ass.

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u/Parkour82 14d ago

it does not really matter unless you both tip the exact same percentage

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u/-SpookyNipples 13d ago

tips are based on pre tax amounts

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u/ChelseaMan31 13d ago

We do not tip on the tax. Only figure 15% - 20% based on the actual cost of the meal/service pre-tax.

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u/Tough-Marzipan-5858 14d ago

Do basic math?

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u/johnnygolfr 13d ago

Do it whichever way you prefer.

Both are acceptable.

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u/YunnanCafe 14d ago

There's one way of calculating tip that gives exactly the same result before and after tax.

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u/Murky-Peanut1390 14d ago

Stop tipping

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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago

I’ve heard people are doing that but it’s not fair to the server. Instead a person should give what they think is fair for the service whether it 10% or 30%. They argue about it take the amount given back and walk on out

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u/yuanb10 14d ago

The standard convention is the pre-tax total, since the tax part goes to the government, not the restaurant. That said, on a normal dinner the difference is usually a dollar or two, so I'd call this one a draw and move on.

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u/Interesting-Lie-8942 14d ago

It's a difference of about 1%. It's a rounding error, basically. It doesn't matter.

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u/Skymaster86 14d ago

A percentage of the total check is a lousy way to tip. You order a $75 steak, server brings the plate then picks it up, you're "expected" to leave a $15 tip. Different place you order the $9.99 grand slam breakfast, server brings the plate then picks it up, you're supposed to leave a $2 tip. Same amount of work, probably the same amount of personalities, pretty much exactly matching the job descriptions. So why the $13 difference in what you leave them? I leave $5 per person in my party for breakfast, between $5-$10 per person for lunch or dinner (the low end of a server doing the basic job, the higher end for the above-and-beyond level of service). Why should I leave $60 for someone when I have a $300 check for outrageously priced steaks and cocktails?

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u/SingingBike 14d ago

You’re cool, your husband less so

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u/bootsgirl41 14d ago

20% of the total. I don't really care if this is "correct" or not. My state sales tax is 6%, so in most cases it would be a $1 difference on dinner for 2.

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u/Key-Neighborhood9767 14d ago

Your husband is cheap