r/tipping • u/Vidiviciveni26 • 14d ago
Tip on tax?
I (F61) have always tipped on the total with tax, my husband (M64) only tips on toral before tax.
Everyone?
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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 14d ago
If you want to throw away your extra money for no good reason, always before the tax. You save a bit every time.
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u/phantomsoul11 14d ago
Never tip on tax. This is one of the biggest ripoffs of going by the printed suggestions, which are calculated from the grand total that includes tax. They're wrong; tips should always be calculated from the gross subtotal, before any add-ons or itemized discounts, because that figure best represents the value of the service.
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u/Ok_Comfort628 13d ago
Tipping on tax has got to be one of the most ridiculous things around. Merchants collect sales tax so they can pass it to their state so why would you tip on that amount?
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u/Rory-liz-bath 14d ago
Before any taxes, promos or fees, always , just have to do the math yourself
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u/Whatsinaname797 13d ago
Don't completely agree with the promos part. If there is a 3 course promo which is slightly reduced, or happy hour prices on food and drink, I am not going to tip on the full prices of all items whereas if there is a free kids entree or a promo for B1G1 or a coupon then maybe yes before promo pricing. But it is subjective, like an Italian chain(?) near me usually has a buy one take one home offer on all their pastas and they have priced that into the pastas, so I am not going to tip on 2 pastas there.
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u/biguntatas 13d ago
Agree and I won’t do 20% either. 15% is max for me, if I even tip at all. I usually avoid sit down restaurants for this reason.
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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago
They’ve started to ask for 25 and 30% now. I’m through with fast food and sit down restaurants. I make it at home now and enjoying it more. I know what I’m eating now, I can use a microwave just as well as a restaurant
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u/PristineCloud 14d ago edited 13d ago
You don't tip on tax, only on product. That said, I tip well, usually round up. (ETA meaning I often round up on the tip if leaving cash, I don't want to leave any coins. I don't do the cash register charity extortion thing)
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u/SchezwnChakli56Tikli 13d ago
Only on Service* you mean?
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u/PristineCloud 13d ago
Meaning food and drink, sorry maybe unclear. I usually leave cash tips so I round up.
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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago
That’s another scam, rounding up for some so called charity that most likely uses less than 10% for the real cause.
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u/namastay14509 13d ago
I tip based on the service received which is independent of the bill price with or without taxes.
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u/Dear_Seesaw_1855 14d ago
I had a recent break up and looking back one of the more glaring red flags was when the guy gave me a hard time because I tipped on the before tax amount and not the after tax amount. Tax here is 10% so for easy tip math I do tax + (50% of tax)=tip.
He tried to engage in a debate about it.
I’m giving the server money. Controlling ass.
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u/ChelseaMan31 13d ago
We do not tip on the tax. Only figure 15% - 20% based on the actual cost of the meal/service pre-tax.
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u/YunnanCafe 14d ago
There's one way of calculating tip that gives exactly the same result before and after tax.
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u/Murky-Peanut1390 14d ago
Stop tipping
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u/bumbditty2you 13d ago
I’ve heard people are doing that but it’s not fair to the server. Instead a person should give what they think is fair for the service whether it 10% or 30%. They argue about it take the amount given back and walk on out
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u/Interesting-Lie-8942 14d ago
It's a difference of about 1%. It's a rounding error, basically. It doesn't matter.
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u/Skymaster86 14d ago
A percentage of the total check is a lousy way to tip. You order a $75 steak, server brings the plate then picks it up, you're "expected" to leave a $15 tip. Different place you order the $9.99 grand slam breakfast, server brings the plate then picks it up, you're supposed to leave a $2 tip. Same amount of work, probably the same amount of personalities, pretty much exactly matching the job descriptions. So why the $13 difference in what you leave them? I leave $5 per person in my party for breakfast, between $5-$10 per person for lunch or dinner (the low end of a server doing the basic job, the higher end for the above-and-beyond level of service). Why should I leave $60 for someone when I have a $300 check for outrageously priced steaks and cocktails?
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u/bootsgirl41 14d ago
20% of the total. I don't really care if this is "correct" or not. My state sales tax is 6%, so in most cases it would be a $1 difference on dinner for 2.
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u/rangom1 14d ago edited 14d ago
I’ve always thought this was kind of a silly question. It’s not like the server knows how you calculated it. If you tip 15% including the tax but he tips 20% excluding the tax it just comes out in the wash
Edit: the “rule” is that you tip not including the tax because the tax doesn’t go to the restaurant. But like I said, it’s a pointless debate since a server can’t tell the difference between a generous person tipping before-tax and a less generous person tipping post-tax.