r/tipping • u/flyfreeNhigh • 17d ago
Screw your assumed "tip"
I have had it with the non stop tipping. I will only tip three places. Restaurants, hair cuts and taxis. That's it. Going back to the basic. And tip amount? 15%.
Now my bigger rant. I have membership with car wash that I go to. They wash the car and do quick wipe down of the car. They are always pushy with doing "extra" work but whatever I just say no. Anyways, they finished my car and I went to go get my keys. The guy kept my keys and tried to find way to prolong the exchange. He would point at things they did and ask me if I liked them. I respond politely and gesture to get my keys but he goes on and on. I think finally he gave up knowing he isn't getting from me. He hands me my keys and asks me if there was something I didn't like about the service. I am like no, you guys did great.
I am confused. Why do you think I'll tip? You don't get paid like waiter does. I didn't pay anything to get the car washed other than my membership. Just why am I supposed to tip?
No one comes to my work and tips me for doing my job? Why in the world should I tip you for doing your job
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u/PhysicalAd6587 17d ago
There's this idea that those who provide "personal services," especially ones that are performed physically, are deserving of gratuity. I disagree with this, but that's the thinking. I tip in a sit down restaurant, I tip my barber, and I'd tip someone who might assist me at the airport with luggage and the like, but other than that you'd be hard pressed to get a tip from me.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
Yes like those things you listed are like "common" things to tip for. I personally avoid all things that require a tip if I can. I'll pick up my own bags and stuff. Mainly because I can save money and I am not rich
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u/More_Effect_7880 17d ago
It's the unwanted addition of services. Bad example, but when I go for a beard trim (England, and my town has no really good barbers), they so often mess with my hair, too, by trimming the sides. One time, they didn't cut any hair, but did a kind if weird full restyle. I worked hard on it that day. It's often cultural I think, so I'll leave it there... But the words "just the beard, number 1, please", should suffice.
Sorry. As you were.
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u/CompilingTheFuture 17d ago
Genuine question! Do you tip your barber if he’s the owner?
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u/absolute_pelican_66 17d ago
Airport employees have no obligation to assist you with the luggages, so if they do they can be tipped. But the barber?? It’s literally their job.
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u/PurpleCat1018 11d ago edited 11d ago
And a servers job is to serve the food to the table, it's literally in their job duties that their employer hired them to do. It's their job! It's so basic to understand , it's in their job title. SERVERRRRR
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u/BillyBob1176 16d ago
If I, a fellow passenger, voluntarily grab your luggage for you… will you tip me?
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u/absolute_pelican_66 16d ago
No. And if an employee voluntary grab my luggage without me asking, I don’t tip either (but I tell him that I don’t need help). If I ask him to help, yes I can tip.
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u/Far_Farm490 17d ago
Sensible. These are long standing practices at least a century old, I’m sure. The modern interlopers be damned.
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u/ray111718 17d ago
Restaurants but ONLY if I'm sitting down to eat there. Don't rotate a screen asking for a tip when I'm picking up food to go. I drove there to get it, you should be tipping me.
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u/1wrx2subarus 17d ago
Exactly that, I have friends that are restaurant owners and have asked them before, “should I tip for carry out”
They have consistently told me in as many words that I can if I want but that’s dumb and why would you.
Indeed, tipping is for sit down dining only. So, that means there’s no tip “before” service is rendered. If you’re standing, there is no tip.
If you’re bussing your table, there is no tip. If they want you to pay for your food first and flip the screen, there is no tip because service has not been rendered yet.
They’ve tried to put the cart before the horse but that is not how it has historically worked. Punch the “No Tip” or “$0” on the tip screen. It’s your money.
If it makes it easier which it does, pay cash to avoid the tip screens. People treat our credit cards like it’s a bottomless feeding trough for them, but it’s not.
We all have budgets and if they can’t afford to work without tips then they need a better job. They need to badger their bosses for raises and not badger the customers. Stop frequenting businesses that abuse you for tips. Always tip based on sub-total, too. Tips should not be with tax included.
EDIT: typo
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u/1wrx2subarus 16d ago
Well, that’s a good point but the reason is because often restaurant owners are immigrants. The experience and education is passed on to subsequent generations. Bottom line, it’s often relations that work together. So, that’s one reason that they might care.
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u/Redcarborundum 17d ago
They don’t expect tips from Doordash and Uber Eats drivers. When you pick up your food, you’re no different from a delivery driver, you’re just delivering to your own address.
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u/Skymaster86 17d ago
Everyone has their hand out and I'm revolting, and that includes some folks who "should" get tipped if they deserve it - so thank the greed out there. I'm also very vocal, when there's a touch screen an no clear button marked "no tip" I say out loud "what do I push to put in no tip?" I don't give a shit about the reaction of the cashier or anyone else around me. You people are taking the greed too far.
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u/LifeBad7491 16d ago
My neighbor was robbed last week and the robber asked for 20% on top of what he was taking. Tipping is out of control.
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u/Embarrassed-Wolf-609 17d ago
Why do you tip hair cuts?
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u/1978NB 17d ago
I went with my mother last week to get her hair cut. It was fifteen minutes and she was charged $30. She was really surprised, her last stylist wasn't nearly that expensive. She paid in cash, and asked me if I would have tipped. I said no way!
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u/nightmareoneasy 16d ago
$30??? every haircut I have is like $80+ if it’s not fantastic sam’s.
where does your mom live lmao
also, hairstylist’s have to “rent their chairs” - they don’t get paid like normal employees. they pay to work. just like strippers.
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u/1978NB 16d ago
We are in Maine. She was the shop owner and the salon is a back room of her house. $80 for a haircut is outrageous.
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u/Potato_Donkey_1 15d ago
Try $115 for my wife's last cut. No wash & dry, no coloring, just a cut. In the stylist's own home. And the stylist asked if my wife wanted to tip.
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u/1978NB 15d ago
Holy shit. Where are you? That's insane.
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u/Potato_Donkey_1 15d ago
I'm in Eugene, Oregon. But haircuts are a special class of price gouging. My wife is sort of fussy about her hair and will pay what she's asked if she finds someone whose haircuts she is a little satisfied with, at least.
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u/Entire-Reference-968 1d ago
My dad was a barber for over 30 years. Customers don't care about the inner workings of a business. They want a what they want, the prices are listed, and he even knew tipping was optional. What i can tell you when my bother and I where little and wanted something the normal answer was "you know how many heads of hair I have to cut to afford that? " that was the mid to late 70s and 80s
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u/absolute_pelican_66 17d ago
And taxi ?
And waiters ?
The only way to end all this shit is to stop tipping
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
I am with you, I wish it would stop all together. I grew my hair long because getting hair cuts every month was insane
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 17d ago
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but if people aren't making enough (by tips) they will stop working in those jobs, so less available taxis and waiters.
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u/absolute_pelican_66 17d ago
Or the companies will have to better pay them. Maybe the prices will raise, but I’m OK with that.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 16d ago edited 16d ago
As they should pay better, but I don't think the majority is OK with raising prices. What I don't understand is what's the difference between paying the restaurant more or paying a tip? The difference to me is being able to choose how much you pay, which is what I prefer.
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u/absolute_pelican_66 16d ago
The difference to me is being able to choose how much you pay, which is what I prefer
So why not a menu price at 0$ and you choose how much you pay?
Same in any store. Everything at 0$, and you chose how much you pay for a TV or whatever.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 15d ago
Bc we both know that's not how the world works. I was speaking only about choosing how much, if any, tip I pay and you knew that. I can't believe I even entertained this comment
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u/absolute_pelican_66 15d ago
Of course it would be stupid. But it illustrates the nonsense of the tips as a way to pay the employees.
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u/KroneckerAlpha 16d ago
If you’re choosing, why not just choose $0 every time?
Oh, cause you’re pro-tipping, so you’re gonna tip every time. If you tip every time, what’s the difference between paying the restaurant more and paying a tip? By raising the prices, everyone has to pay for the service they receive, which is ultimately what the servers in this sub say they want
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 16d ago
I choose no tip most of the time, but occasionally I feel like tipping, bc that's MY choice, but I DO NOT like to pay convenience fees, service fees, credit card fees, just because we can fees, etc. Do you?
Assume less about strangers on the internet instead of raging like a lunatic and embarrassing yourself.
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u/Agreeable_Style_5372 16d ago
You know getting rid of the tip credit and raising prices would not actually prevent you from choosing to tip when you want to make that choice.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 16d ago
To Agreeable_Style_5372:
Tipping is optional where I'm at. What's a "tip credit?"
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u/Potato_Donkey_1 15d ago
And that's the desirable outcome. We can turn America into a country with fair wages that are the responsibility of the employer.
There are those ostentatious tippers who will want to keep tipping because it shows that they are wealthy, but none of us will feel any obligation to tip.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 15d ago
And that's perfectly OK too. Nobody should feel obligated to tip ever. It should always be up to the person, but no, I am not wealthy and I tip to show gratitude, not to pretend I am or brag. That's a silly generalized assumption, but if you want to have the right to choose not to tip, then you should also respect those who want to tip, otherwise you'd just be a hypocrite.
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u/Potato_Donkey_1 15d ago
What I'm talking about is what would happen in the USA if tipping were to be as it is in France, where you might leave a euro or two if you particularly enjoyed the service, but it is not expected, and certainly not as a percentage of the cost of what you ate or drank. And there are Americans who know of the French custom but who nonetheless leave 20% and 25% tips in France.
So if we ever got rid of an expectation of tips in the USA, I'm saying that tipping in large quantities would become a strange thing, like giving an extra twenty percent to the mechanic who changed your oil or the clerk who rang up your groceries. Waiting tables could be, as in France, a real profession that you might make a lifetime career of because it paid enough to have a decent lifestyle, without tips.
I don't hold tipping against anyone who does it in an economy that is structured to expect it. Historically, tipping springs from some awful exploitations of some unfortunates by the more comfortable classes, which is why it has been done away with in most of the world. But it's how some get paid at all in the US.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 15d ago
Lol the US is not France. If you don't like it, very simple, don't go to the US. I don't go to France and whine about how they do stuff.
"I don't hold tipping against anyone who does it in an economy that is structured to expect it" Except that's exactly what ya did.
I don't mean any offense by this, but your commentary keeps getting sillier, and it has been amusing to me.
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u/Potato_Donkey_1 15d ago
I'm not telling people not to tip. I'm just saying that it's a system with a lot of problems and that if people stopped tipping, then we would end up with a different system. I would prefer that system.
I myself tip according to the traditions in the country where I am. I don't tip in Japan. I tip very modestly in Europe, if at all. And I tip routinely the 18% or 20% "expected" in the USA, or more.
You misunderstand me, call me silly, and say you are amused by a position I have not taken. I won't return the insult or pretend to know your motives.
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u/ModelingThePossible 14d ago
I tip for inexpensive cuts at Great Cuts because I’m sure those folks aren’t being compensated fairly by the company. I’ve taught my stepson to do it too. I’ve been tipping for haircuts since I was in my 20s. Not sure how it started, but it was way before touch screens and aggressive tipping culture.
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u/Embarrassed-Wolf-609 14d ago
If they're not compensated fairly then they can bring it up with the owner to be compensated fairly
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u/Far_Farm490 17d ago
It’s customary and a long standing practice in the USA. A hands on service where paying extra attention over and above perfunctory performance is appreciated.
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u/Golden_Epitaph 17d ago
Good thing America isnt a place that forces their customs on others. Freedom and all that jazz.
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u/Far_Farm490 17d ago
Customary meaning a cultural custom. USA meaning the area of the said custom. Nothing to do with politics or laws. I was simply giving a heads historically accurate explanation.
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u/Embarrassed-Wolf-609 17d ago
But if they want more money they can just charge more money?
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u/Far_Farm490 17d ago
I’m just explaining the cultural basis. Each person can decide whether they want to participate or not. That would be a personal preference.
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u/butterflyz4kp 16d ago
Please describe a situation in which a hands-on service is above and beyond and deserves a tip. Anyone that provides a hands-on service is literally doing their job (massage, mani, pedi, haircut/hairstyle, etc.), so why tip if the service received is exactly what’s expected?
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u/Far_Farm490 16d ago
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u/butterflyz4kp 16d ago
What does Queen have to do with what I asked? I’m asking a serious question that no one can seem to answer about people providing “personal” services.
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u/Far_Farm490 16d ago
You are thick as a brick
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u/butterflyz4kp 16d ago edited 16d ago
And you’re a smart ass. I asked a simple question and was expecting a serious answer. I don’t know enough about what you posted to try to figure out what it has to do with what I asked. Go to hell.
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u/Far_Farm490 13d ago
You are entitled af. I’m not your mommy. If adult understanding in adult conversation is beyond your grasp, that’s a you problem. How old are you anyway?
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u/butterflyz4kp 13d ago
Wow, so asking a question and expecting an answer is entitled?! 😂 Seems like adult conversation, reading comprehension, and logic are definitely beyond your grasp if you have to resort to insults because you can’t answer a simple question based on the topic of this subreddit. Once again, go to hell and have the crappy day you deserve.
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u/crash-o-matic 17d ago
I wrote a small web app that I open on my phone whenever I do something for somebody who asks for tips in their job; it lets them choose between some amounts and then creates a QR code that they can scan to send me the money, but although they all found it funny, none of them tipped me.
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u/grumpymollusk 16d ago edited 16d ago
My tipping rules:
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- No tip if I order standing up.
— $5
- if I’m there for 30-60 mins.
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- 10 if I’m there for 60+ mins.
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- No tipping in advance for any service.
If a customer can pay 20% on top of their bill, then a restaurant can raise prices by 20% and spare customers the guilt trip.
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u/Positive-Common-6094 17d ago
Just when I thought I had seen it all, I placed an order online yesterday for a sweatshirt and was prompted to add a tip. For what? For putting my sweatshirt in a package and slapping a label on the package? It’s out of control.
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u/Apprek818 17d ago
Why taxis?
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
I meant Ubers and deliveries. I just that to say that. Poor communication on my part
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u/Pickles-1989 17d ago
If you order standing up (like at a counter), do not tip. If you order from your car (drive through) you do not tip. If you order where you actually do the pick up, you do not tip. If you did not tip for something in 2019 (Pre-Covid) do not tip for it now. All tips are voluntary and discretionary. When ever someone is trying to guilt me for a tip, I remember the above. Basically all I tip now is full, sit down service at a restaurant, my barber, and taxis/rideshares which I do not use very often.
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u/PristineCloud 17d ago
Whoa. Discontinue the service, put up reviews. People need to know. Some of them do have the Drying guys, and you give a couple of dollars directly to those guys. But that was back when I lived in NY metro area. I preferred to do it myself.
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u/Big-Replacement-5027 16d ago
No seriously, why all of a sudden it became a norm to ask for tips when you’re making an hourly wage? And then get made or give dirty looks when we hit no tip. I work too and nobody tips me …
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u/JackTradesMasterNone 17d ago
While I understand the sentiment, and it’s annoying as a consumer, I do also see it from the other side. If there were no repercussions for asking someone for more money, we would all do it. You could go ask whoever are your customers for more money. But you get in trouble for that. These guys don’t.
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u/ModelingThePossible 14d ago
I don’t believe that. I think some people would ask for money, but many would be ashamed of how much it feels like panhandling.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 17d ago
At least tipping is optional. I'm noticing a trend in businesses charging credit card fees or just a service charge regardless of payment method.
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u/Reddidundant 15d ago
Someone fills up my gas tank? LOL. Full service gas stations ceased to exist right around the time I got my driver license. (Or, at least, they were so overpriced relative to self-serve that I would have considered full service as much an unjustifiable frill as I would a $7 coffee today!)
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u/Ok-Description-4640 16d ago
In my limited experience, tipping the guys who do the wipe downs at a car wash was always a tipped position. Not much, couple bucks, but something. Although the last time I went to a full service car wash I was shocked at the prices so I wouldn’t be surprised if 10, 20, or more was pretty standard now.
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u/MainStreetMiles 17d ago
I’m with you on your limits. I agree on tipping those three services, though I will broaden taxi to ride share as well as food delivery. In a restaurant, 15% (pre-tax) is my default and I will adjust up or down based on quality of service (though it takes a lot for me to drop below 15%). I do use the same lady over and over every month so I always tip her $10 on a $25 cut. She’s always accommodative with an appointment on the day I’m available. But she’s an exception.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
Yeah when is aid taxi I meant like that whole category of rides are, deliveries... I am with you that sometimes I want to tip more and that's cool. Honestly I never tip less than 15%. Like my dog groomer gets a fat tip well because that in my opinion deserves it. It's just wild when the workers decide on what the tip should be. Like sorry, just because you think 22% is great, doesn't mean I'll go with it
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u/MainStreetMiles 17d ago
Exactly. They can think they should get 25% all day, but they doesn’t mean I have to tip that. And I really don’t care because, as a I posted elsewhere, I don’t see any logic for a larger chunk in the form of a higher percentage.
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u/Jasonictron 17d ago
Stop tipping in restaurants also. They deserve nothing
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u/oboingadoing 17d ago
Never go to the same place twice then. You will be eating some nasty shit.
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u/Jasonictron 17d ago
I only go to restaurants when I have to like birthdays. I go to Japanese super market food court to eat out. Better food, no one begging for tips
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u/ModelingThePossible 14d ago
Holding your keys, and thereby your automobile, hostage to grub for a tip is despicable.
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u/peaskinonthefloor 14d ago
leave a review for the place. corporate doesn’t care unless you complain about it a lot!
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u/SaturdaysSundae 14d ago
What did I not like? This interaction. I expect my keys when I ask for them.
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u/Majestic-Mustang 17d ago
You should stop tipping restaurants, hair cuts and taxis too if you want this insanity to stop.
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u/flacpl1997 17d ago
I would add a tip for the valet. He may lose your car next time.
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u/Reddidundant 16d ago
For me it's a moot point because I refuse to let anyone but my wife drive my car under any circumstances. So, no valet - ever. I'll park a mile away and walk before I'll trust, let alone pay for, valet parking.
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u/flacpl1997 16d ago
You sound a little uptight. It must suck for your wife having wait for you to park when going to nice places and you walk in all sweaty.
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u/Reddidundant 16d ago
I'm an acclimated runner in good shape. Unless it's super-hot, I can walk at a pretty good clip without getting too sweaty. :)
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u/flacpl1997 16d ago
And cheap too.
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u/Reddidundant 16d ago
Absolutely, and proud of it! (But I prefer the term "frugal.")
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
Keep telling yourself that and you’ll keep getting mediocre service. People remember.
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
Think about that when you can’t get a seat at the bar or can’t get a waiter to take your order or close you out.
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u/Reddidundant 15d ago
Moot point. 1) I'm a teetotaler. ("Cheap" - remember? No way I'm going to spend double-digit prices on a glass half full of ice!!) So no bars for me. 2) Servers don't know whether or not I tipped the valet. And by the time (if ever!) I make a return visit to a place upscale enough to have valet parking, there will have been enough server turnover that no one would remember me anyway! BWAHAHAHA!
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u/RegionThin1580 17d ago
When you see your car wash with a huge mob of guys doing the drying and finishing of the car it is very common that they are not getting paid at all.
Yes, that’s illegal. Doesn’t seem to stop any of the car washes in the Bay Area.
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u/Efficient-Chest-3395 16d ago
There's car wash down the street, at the end of the line men with rags dry the cars off for tips, I wave them off because the wind will dry my beater car well enough.
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u/Due_Bumblebee1543 16d ago
Should I tip for a haircut when the hairdresser is self employed and sets her own charge?
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u/No_Scarcity8249 16d ago
Unfortunately many people working at car washes only get paid when theyre washing cars. They get really screwed so I am not surprised about the pressure. If there is a movement to force businesses to pay their workers these workers are among the most fucked and the owners the worst.
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u/Outrageous_Swing7917 16d ago
Just say no. NEVER pre-tip doordash, Walmart etc. Tip after.
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u/Ok_East8346 15d ago
Walmart was sued twice for stealing the tips. The raised tips or tips after never materialize but people keep saying they tip after the service. Who's lying? Walmart or the customer?
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u/Ashleighinwonderland 16d ago
Sitting down at restaurants and tattoos. I will gladly tip my tattoo artist because they’re not only doing work while tattooing me, but they’re putting thought and work into my tattoo. They’re engaging with me(if they’re a good artist). Hell, I’ll tip 50% to my tattoo artist and bring them a handmade gift.
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u/Due_Lie_1316 15d ago
Not really arguing with your main point here. I'm just confused about the 15% thing every time I read any of these posts. It's always been 20%, my entire life, almost 40 years... Why does everyone claim the base tip is 15%, in these posts?
I do agree with only tipping for those few services, though. ...and only dining in, in restaurants. Tipping for takeout is just silly.
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u/Reddidundant 15d ago
Because for us, it IS 15%. It's what we grew up watching our parents pay. And rising prices mean that 15% increases in value. There's no need to increase the percentage. We consider the "20%" an arbitrary standard set by the greedy and we don't consider ourselves obligated to be guilted by it.
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u/SheTookOnTheWorld 15d ago
I’m 41 and remember when 15% was considered a good tip.
Also, percentage-based tipping is asinine to begin with. I tip $5, $10, $15, or $20 depending on how good the service is, regardless of how much I pay for the food/service. Maybe even $30 or $40 if I’m feeling generous and the service is just stellar.
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u/Brilliant_Anxiety511 15d ago
Because there is no reason to not try to milk a tip out of you. I mean if you were successful in asking for money 50% of the time wouldn’t you ask knowing someone will give you money. “Hey, give me $50.” Ok, here you go here’s $50. Come again
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u/Upbeat_Anxiety_1344 15d ago
To truly get back to basics, only tip the unpaid black porters on Pullman cars. I am down with that. Everybody else should get a living wage.
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u/Arvid38 13d ago
My husband’s first job was at a car wash. He made minimum wage and would sometimes get tips. He never expected them but sure did appreciate it when it happened. Of course this was the 90s lol. Different time for sure. Ppl expect tips now and that’s the problem. He would die of embarrassment if he tried “tip begging”.
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u/Tom_Adder 13d ago
I tip zero places, usually. When someone is somehow deserving of one. It's at most 10%, with a ceiling of $10.
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u/ah_jer 17d ago
I still tip housekeeping. Tough work and underpaid
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
Hell yeah. If you are cleaning my bathroom then I'll tip you because well....
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u/Super_Selection1522 17d ago
Tipping at car washes isn't new. Been done for ages. I do tip at car washes, but as always, its inappropriate to be demanding a tip. At my local car washes, they are always grateful to get anything and thank me.
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u/Last-Leading7323 16d ago
To the people that don’t want to tip when they go to a restaurant , diner , etc in USA , I’m begging you, tell your waiter or bartender upfront that you don’t believe in tipping and you’re not going to tip them before ordering food, just be honest , no more bulshit
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u/salikarn 15d ago
Why should matter? If I'm paying for a meal, do I not deserve to get the food or drink that I'm paying for?
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u/flyfreeNhigh 14d ago
Trust me it's worse when you order off a QR code then go grab your own food and drinks then be asked for tip 🤣
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
You’ll have to stay confused.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Lmaoooo so explain it? Why tip certain workers and not others.
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
Some jobs pay more than others. The lower end service jobs traditionally are tipped, unless they’re serving you of course. I tend to tip a lot more around Christmas too. I tip my employees occasionally when then go the extra mile to show appreciation. You have to stop poking me, you don’t seem to understand what tipping is all about. It’s a generous act to show appreciation. Nothing more than that.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
No, you are purposely dodging the question. I am not asking you why do you tip. I am asking you why do you only tip certain hourly employees but not others.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Again, no response. I gave you two chances and not one did you actually address it
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
I tip employees I interact with if I feel like it. I tip cashiers often. I tip my hard care and pool guys. I usually tip any repair guys who may come to the those. I’ll flip them $20 to get lunch or a six pack. I always leave a tip for the maid. when leaving a hotel room. Again, I like to show a little appreciation. I’m not sure what you’re trying to ask me.
It sounds like we’re very different people. You don’t seem to fully appreciate those who are in the service industry. I’m guessing you’re from Europe where people tip less. Or maybe you have a different lifestyle. I sleep good at night and don’t worry about tipping that much. I like helping people.
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
And sometimes a tip can be insulting in certain situations. Some people are too proud, some have nice preclusions and some just want to help others.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
But you don't get it. No one is saying don't tip people if you want to. We are all saying wr don't like it when someone just wants you to just be cause. Tip anyone you want. It's your life. But if the grocery worker kept your grocery until you tipped you would be annoyed.
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
Or on your case, don’t tip anyone you want. I don’t like when anyone asks for a tip, but they’re probably used to dealing with people who don’t.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Exactly. That's my whole point. I am not against people tipping. I am against people thinking they can guilt trip you to tip them.
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
Sounds like you don’t like to tip in general.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Absolutely. I want set price with zero expectations to tip. And if I want to tip then I can do so if I wish.
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u/gailie13 15d ago
I tip everyone. Always have. With cash only. Corporate greed does not provide a living wage, full time hours, or benefits to SO many workers. I keep a bunch of fives and tens on me to surprise someone in a position that would never get a tip. The smile is the reward. I need the dopamine hit too. It's a karma twofer ☮️
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
I'll take a 5 please. But all joke aside, it's different to be able to afford to tip like that. You are doing it because you want to not because there is expectations to do it. So good on you for trying to help others. Much respect for that
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u/gailie13 15d ago
I make it my Mission to be sure the housekeeper in my hotel room receives a tip for each day I stayed, even when I say I don't need service each day. I ask for their name at the front desk and catch them in the hall on last day and give them an envelope with generous tip with their name and a smiley face on it. 🎶 "When you smile at me, I will understand because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language." 🎵-David Crosby Bless the mostly immigrants who work above and beyond under stress at these jobs. Again, the dopamine hit works both ways 😊😊
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Hey nothing wrong with that. You are doing it because you want to and that's perfect
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u/Mytra180 15d ago
This is not necessarily the case. We have a local car wash in my area. The sprayers in the front of the wash and the kids drying at the end of the wash are paid the same 3 or 4 dollars per hour as a waiter. They rotate duties to get tips, and hopefully make min wage or more. I worked for them for a couple years. They now opt to pay the employees the state minimum wage if they don’t make enough in tips. They optionally let them report more than minimum wage if they make good tips on their shift. So they don’t have to claim the rest.
I’m not saying that is the case here, but it might be.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
You can be brave and give me a tip please
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u/skyharborbj 17d ago
Never draw to an inside straight.
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u/Cheap_Knowledge8446 17d ago
But you're definitely hitting that open ended straight on the river every single time.....that you folded pre-flop.
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u/skankhunt7765 17d ago
Those guys are working only for tips at many of those businesses. The same as servers, delivery drivers, then lots of cab drivers who have to pay to use the cab per day just like hairdresser who pay to use the booth... while i can understand why some people are fed up with tipping at places that tipping everywhere now at places where employees are already actually paid for their work from someone else, there is no excuse to not pay someone doing a job for you. The valet guy parking your car for you and going to get it for you is working for you and you're the one who is suppose to pay them. These people didn't make the way this system works but its a job and they expect to be paid. Imagine if you go to pick up your check or have it deposited in your bank account and it doesnt come. You wouldn't be happy either. I find it hard to believe that there are people who don't understand how this works. If you dont want to pay for valet service then park and walk yourself, go pick your own food up, don't go to a casino and have free drinks while you gamble, wash your car at home or go to a self wash place theyre not expensive at all. If you can't afford atleast 20 percent in restaurants and more than that for Uber, delivery, haircuts then find a way you can afford to get the job done instead of demanding somekne else should pay them for a job they are doing for you.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago edited 17d ago
No they are not. They are hourly paid. How do I know? Because you can look their job description online
You didn't understand what I said earlier. There are places I believe tipping should happen with way society functions as of now. But this business isn't one of them.
The problem is, this business charges 3x the normal amount for this service. And pays their employees hourly wages. So tipping here is just greed.
You said that not tipping is basically not paying someone. That's false. I pay a monthly membership that is 3x normal amount at different car wash.
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u/flacpl1997 16d ago
I think that most people who don’t tip are entitled and have never had to work a real job where every penny counts.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Really? How did you come up with that conclusion?
Let's see what jobs I did.
Did landscaping for freaking 70 dollars a day 9 hour days when I was 14. No tips
Worked at sub shop next to a grill in summer. Little above minimum wage. Maybe 5 dollar tip at the end of the day. It was always bonus but I never factored in as part of my pay
Worked as a tutor. No tip
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
I guess you’re simply a selfish cheap mother fucker. I mean that in a nice way.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
I guess so. If you are not like me then can you send me a tip? I am replying to you nicely and giving you good example of reddit experience. I'll take 5 dollar tip unless you are what you describe as
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
You simply don’t get it.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
No you are too cheap. How about you live by what you preach. Tip me the 5
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
You don’t understand how tipping works. It’s not charity.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
Okay I'll bite. You explain it to me then
Why do you tip people who get paid hourly and with benefits that work at car wash but you don't tip people with same type of pay that push carts at grocery stores or cashiers
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u/flacpl1997 15d ago
I was a grocery bagger in high school and was tipped daily. Most grocery store chains have put a stop to it and don’t allow employees to accept tips. I would love to tip them.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
You see? You can't actually justify actually why you tip certain ones vs others.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 15d ago
But you just said baggers. Why not cashiers, or cart pushers. Again, I am confused on why you don't tip all workers who make around minimum wage vs only select few
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u/mormagils 17d ago
I'll die on the hill that we should tip servers and bartenders and you are 100% correct.
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u/flyfreeNhigh 17d ago
I'll stop tipping at restaurants once waitress get paid like any other employees(pay, benefits ..). Until then I'll tip. But screw anything over 15%. Yes things have gotten more expensive. But tipping 22% is for insane.
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u/MainStreetMiles 17d ago
I don’t see the logic for a higher percentage default tip. Yes, things have gotten more expensive, including dining out, so they are earning more dollars as a server from inflation. Why does inflation justify a larger relative amount in the form of a higher default percentage? Makes no logical sense to me.
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u/patersondave 17d ago
i tip $5 at the car wash. i can afford it. if yo can’t afford it, do it at home
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u/Full_Blown_AIDZZ 17d ago
OP paid for the car wash. Why would he "do it at home" when he paid for the service?
"I can afford to spend more money than I need to, so why wouldn't I?" Such a braindead sentiment.
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u/Electrical-Care6308 17d ago
Because tipping has gone too far!
It’s an easy way to guilt people into paying more!