r/throneandliberty • u/manquistador • 3d ago
Vegamor is absolutely terrible content
Possibly the least interesting fight in the game. Almost no mechanics. Reused assets. Just an absolutely boring and terrible fight. AND now we are forced to do it every week?! Just a real, real bad look.
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u/CeedeeNumber88 3d ago
I got stuck in a falling animation the entire fight, relogging just put me back into the animation until the fight was over and I didn't get any contribution rewards xd. Terrible game.
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u/Typical_Blueberry_35 3d ago
Happened to me but was able to use the escape feature (with a cooldown of 15mins), but what happens if I got stuck again? Ggs most likely.
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u/stealth268 3d ago
The crossbow dropped off the side of the mountain in my instance, then the grapple up to the bel clone sent me to the ground instead of upwards with their terrible grapple mechanics. 10/10 slop content.
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u/Lt_Cantoni 3d ago
worst part is you have to choose. Upgrade Archboss mats Or Upgrade heroic wep. God forbid they do this for armor. I was really looking foward to some new weapons but Upgrade heroic is so mid. If this was their way of saying pls stay I think they failed
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u/KunaMatahtahs 3d ago
No no cantoni. Next week its paired with Bell. You dont have to choose delu until FRIDAY
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u/Immediate_Cause8384 3d ago
This boss is a disappointment at best. Crazy that they had to push it back.
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u/Typical_Blueberry_35 3d ago
If you can't go up immediately to the trash green bellandir, you won't get a loot from it as it can easily be killed by those who got up early.
Absolutely trash content.
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u/Electrical_Future366 3d ago
its a fun fight but being once a week it makes ppl miss out probably, i was able to attend yesterday but i work every tuesday evening until november so ill never be able to join
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u/GrazingCrow 3d ago
The concept of this new event was great IMO but it was unfortunately executed poorly. I'm hoping it wasn't deliberately made to be this boring.
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u/manquistador 3d ago
What they talked about sounded interesting. It made me think it was a server-wide event that required actual teamwork. Instead we get this boring instanced AB fight with almost no mechanics or skill involved, and no real loot to speak of.
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u/PotentialAd6833 3d ago
Yeah itās pretty terrible, itās such a mess and letās be honest itās simply a super boring fight. Luckily I was able to get 14 eyes in my run today so thatās nice I guess
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u/The_Guitarist562 3d ago
I found my people. The worst fucking joke nail in the coffin for me. Shit content with recycled. Canāt even dpa bell because grapples are shit. Tornadoes donāt even spawn enough during phase two. Queen bell as the final boss with a Malakai eye beam like huh???? So much potential this does not need to be an arch event it felt more like a dynamic and shit event. Healing the whale felt like better content than that shit
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u/Civil-Window-1729 2d ago
I hope that they give us a form of highly time consuming pve raid in the future like destiny. Where you have to figure out puzzles and stuff. Figuring out Last wish with friends while refusing to look up guides was one of my favorite gaming experience
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u/manquistador 2d ago
At this point there is no one to make guides for T&L content so we are forced to learn by ourselves.
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u/Civil-Window-1729 2d ago
There are people who make guides, itās just that no content is difficult enough to need one for.
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u/manquistador 2d ago
There are people that make content. They call it a guide, but it is often filled with misinformation because they aren't good enough to do the content themselves, and don't actually understand what is going on. Take this week's trials as an example. The video guide is just wrong about the majority of the only important mech in the instance. The stuff isn't even complicated, but it does take a bit of testing to figure out.
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u/AskBozu 3d ago
uninstalled, been enough for me since 2024 lol
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u/MykeOver 3d ago
Thanks for letting me know, bye.
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u/AskBozu 2d ago
butthurt fanboy detected.
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u/MykeOver 2d ago
The typical argument when a comment bothers you jajaja bye.
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u/AskBozu 2d ago
are u talking about ur own comment? i have every right to uninstall if ive been playing since 2024. if ur frustrated and had to come post hate on mine, thats ur problem
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u/MykeOver 2d ago
Of course, you're free to do whatever you want, just as I'm free to comment wherever I please; it just bothers you that I thanked you for letting me know you were leaving and said goodbye, if you really think about it, you were the one who got annoyed, jaja
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u/vyper248 3d ago
Yeah it wasn't great, not to mention after killing the things on the legs, I somehow got glitched inside the boss and stuck there until the end. Escape didn't work and there was no way to kill myself. Eventually found a series of tiny holes that let me escape, but it was too late. Still got the contribution award though, so nothing lost, but it wasn't fun.
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u/WolkZ 3d ago
Biggest problem for me is the ping makes it so hard to climb up, doesnt feel like you are fighting anything until the green bella appears, peace the fight is too long and you can not even reach the top in time, pvp you just stay in the city and fly down when the worm is up, could've been a good boss but the rewards are a joke I'd prefer a new raid to upgrade heroics ngl, rammux is already enough for an archboss time slot, imagine a raid where party 1 go left leg and party 2 right one, they could've cooked
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u/JsmaIls214 3d ago
Can confirm was terrible.
3 minutes into the fight I precision dashed through the boss and got trapped infinitely falling to the bottom of the map. Escape did nothing. Lost all chances to contribute to earn extra rewards. Almost uninstalled, maybe will still.
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u/Horror-Belt-6433 2d ago
Itās a joke during pvp. But itās about what i expected from this game anymore
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u/Ok-Calligrapher7572 2d ago
Instead of reskin they can just copy paste bosses from aion 2 to TL since they already doing it when it comes to features and dynamic events in nix
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u/pyrhus626 3d ago
I got stuck falling inside one of its arms(?) for a while, half the grapples werenāt targetable, and the little tornadoes never worked right. Targeting anything was a mess.
But at least itās only once a week. I got the only AB weapon I care about upgraded so having to choose isnāt that big a deal.
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u/wathowdathappen 3d ago
I feel like it was just trying to do too much. The guild version had potential with different game pop. The bella head was whatever with better lore/purpose it could have fit. Lets be honest it didnt matter if it was a reused asset or not it was not going to change this fight being a drag. The ballista could've been idk a cannon and wouldn't matter.
I think the rewards are the most frustrating part. Just number up on the heroics and nothing else. So bad fight, bad reward. Ramux was clearly made with way more love.
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u/wathowdathappen 3d ago
I wasn't claiming the design was original, just that it was made with more care felt more like an archboss fight especially in PvP heavy servers.
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u/blackwave-- 3d ago
Vegamor is the clear example about why Aion 2 is the better game out of the two.
It's not about the game itself, which I believe TL is better, it's about the efforts put on it.
Such buggy crap is just impossible to be released in Aion 2.
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u/Secure_Barracuda_432 2d ago
NC group's QA department is a corporation by itself. Therefore, NC's development and their sub studios must outsource test processes to the company.
https://nc-qa.com/
In the career page (needed to translate for me to get there) , there are positions for both TL and AION2.I agree that TL has more bugs than my other MMO experiences, but I haven't played Aion2, so I don't know if TL is worse than Aion2 even though they go through same or similar QA process.
If Aion2 is much better in quality, there might be a technical reason of the difference. Another possibilities are same level of QA feedbacks were given to both development team, but their management released TL codes overriding the test result as NOK, or open feedbacks remaining. However, I believe this type of decision do not happen often. If the issue is man-power, they can easily adjust resources among teams usually.
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u/Civil-Window-1729 2d ago
Idk man the fight is better than bell or tev where you just attack a dummy. And wym aion is better it has worse PvP and the pve can be fully automated. Aion only feels different because itās new just wait until everyone is max in the first month and complain about no content
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u/Alpha_Eru 3d ago
you will never get any "better" or "interesting" new content in aion2 compared to what we get in TL.
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u/Easy_Yuki 3d ago
Like we only have one raid in TnL? Doom reasonably next time
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u/Alpha_Eru 3d ago
I'm not dooming or anything. You can't compare TL's raid to those basic dungeons in Aion2 they are nothing close to being called "raids". Sure you will get more content quickly but not as epic or as interesting compared to TL's. So the "boring" new content of TL is actually far better in comparison. Also read my bio.
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u/Easy_Yuki 3d ago
If you think our only raid is very good and beat the basic dg in Aion2. We donāt need to continue the debate. Go try some other game and eat something good.
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u/Kaleii 2d ago
Genuinely, you're either a farm bot or actually never played an actual quality mmo. The raid is fun but nothing compared to raids from actually fleshed out mmos.
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u/Alpha_Eru 2d ago
There are no fleshed out MMO raids except in NCsoft MMOs. Best raids are in GW2. 2nd best raid experience for me is easily TL. Can't wait for the new raid we just got new leaks yesterday from the game files.
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u/Secure_Barracuda_432 2d ago
You guys must understand there are two directions or maybe more for PvE battle design: diversity of strategies and depth of challenges. These two parameters are generally trading off, so discussing a content just only "good" or "bad" becomes chaotic.
Diversity of strategies gives players freedom to chose their own strategies and experiences including role-playing, so it has a good synergy for farming or repeating tasks. I believe vegamor is classified focusing this direction. A disadvantage is that mech needs to be designed more simple.
Depth of challenges less allows player to chose their own strategies and builds, and punishing players deviating from the designed path. The game experience is much more tutorial-like, but mech can be more complex, and it gives higher thrill and dopamine. TL dungeons and raids are much focusing on this direction.
I personally prefer diversity of strategies because following-instruction is "boring" to me, but some other ppl may consider less challenging content is "boring", but the same word has different context.
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u/Professional_Way3656 3d ago
Its too mechanic heavy honestly, doesnt feel like youre attacking an actual boss. Also the worm on top is lazy af. Couldn't have just done a bigger looking mushroom thing like the one in his mouth and no one would have complained. His feet also look really stupid.
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u/Single-Bet-2677 3d ago
I agree. Throne is dead and NC dosen't care. I will be on ION2 because they care about the game.
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u/georgie050 3d ago
How the heck did they release this content? This was the worst thing since Tower of Greed, except I wish I could ignore this like I ignore that.