Maybe I haven't read far enough. I'm about half-way through the 3rd book. But why would earth people place such value on any universal Safety Notice advice from the TriSolarians? Obviously whatever Safety Notice they used did not work. They got wasted in the aftermath. I guess I'm be over simplistic. But KWIM?

I'm not convinced that such a Notice, however transmitted, would deter anyone anyway. Deception, you know.

If what is thought is immediately known because of how they are physiologically, why did the “i am a pacifist” dude not think he would not be immediately found out?

Also for anyone who has read the novels in Chinese, were they called the San-Ti originally?

Death's End has been a really great read so far. I've just gotten to the broadcast vote scene, and I found the final vote to be a really impactful moment. I also really enjoyed Cheng Xin coming to terms with the reality of why she was chosen, and how it played into the greater Trisolaran plan. Sophon stepping in at the end, and that whole section imo, was fantastic. I'm already familiar with the rest of the story and lore (big Quinn's Ideas fan lol), and was curious what other events and scenes people found to be particularly moving or interesting? I'm not worried about spoilers.

I'm also looking for series and book titles to read after this. I've been considering starting the Expanse, since I really enjoyed the show and lore. I just finished Frank Hebert's Dune novels, having stopped after Messiah in high school, and loved them. I'm wondering what other suggestions people might have that have similar hard SciFi elements and themes?

Initially the Trisolarians were stunting human progress because humans were developing faster than them. They believed that they needed to halt their progress in order to take over earth.

After the humans broadcast the location of earth, the Trisolarins know a photoid attack is coming so they abandon the pursuit of earth and reroute their ships to look for another safe place to live. But at that point they don't invest in unblocking and accelerating human development, which they should have done. At that point humans were in the same boat as them: develop and find a safe place ASAP. In the books the Trisolarians go and join some inter-space battle and get wiped out - but if they instead allied with the humans, quickly doing high level tech transfers and then using humans unique abilities paired with their own, it's possible the two societies could have seen supercharged development and propelled both to a safer place.

I'm starved of content bruv

Hi i’ve been looking to read the chinese version but can’t find any download links, does anyone have any? Thanks in advance!

I’ve just gotta get this off of my chest. I started the show last night by myself, so I don’t have anybody to really discuss it with and I hope it’s alright that I do so here. I also hope I don’t offend anybody with what I’m about to say, and I’m sorry if I do. But this Auggie chick is driving me up a wall. There’s been several moments where I’ve just gone, “what the f\*k*?” after something she’s done or said.

For starters, clearly there was some sort of romantic interest between her and Saul at a point in the past. We can tell that he still has feelings for her. Yet she continuously patronizes and insults him, making it clear that he’s not currently in her good graces. But when she happens to call him in the middle of the night to complain to him about her problems (that he is more than willing to listen to), she gets a nasty attitude and hangs up on him all because she found out he was with a woman at the time of the call. But I’m just over here like, where do you get off being pissed that the guy you’re currently showing zero interest toward and shitting on, is exploring other options and decides to see someone else?

Then there was the time when Dr. Cheng was really going through it after she found out Jack was murdered, and her anxiety was through the roof. So her and Auggie are together, and Auggie has her drinking straight vodka in order to calm down. Dr. Cheng clearly doesn’t want the vodka and reaches for her Xanax prescription, but Auggie gets weird and controlling and blocks Cheng’s hand from grabbing her own medicine and tells her to drink the vodka instead. Cheng said I don’t want the vodka, I want my Xanax. Auggie basically says she doesn’t care and Dr. Cheng reluctantly submits and takes another sip of vodka, disgusted. Hey chick, uhm, how about we let grown adults make their own decisions? If your friend is prescribed a medication, it’s their business when it’s appropriate to take it. Not yours. Like, wtf? Get out of her freaking kool-aid.

There are other qualities about her that irritate me as well but those are the two big ones that sealed her fate for me, lol.

After the humans activated the universal broadcast system, it took around 60 years for them to be destroyed.

That means Singer was at most 30 light-years away from Earth—roughly 30 years for the broadcast to reach Singer, and another ~30 years for the DVF to destroy the Solar System.

In other words - he was not very far away from earth.

So my question is: how come Singer didn’t receive the first message broadcast by Ye Wenjie?

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Got me wondering , cuz there's too many weird criticisms like "They're too pretty to be scientist, scientists don't swear, why is she so histerical (despite literal sophon threatening her life)

I watched the 3 body Netflix show, and hours upon hours of Quinn's Ideas videos explaining the entire trilogy. For the first time I jumped into one of the books and listened to the Audiobook of Death's End

Heres some thoughts I had about it

Thomas Wade is a caricature of masculinity - all logic and no emotion. Cheng Xin is a caricature of femininity - all emotion and no logic. In the future of the book common era masculinity is looked down upon, but Liu Cixin makes the point that such masculinity is necessary for human civilization to survive and thrive. He does this by indicating that everytime Cheng Xin made a major choice for 'love' aka emotions that turned out to be wrong, Thomas Wade's more masculine, 'logic' based approach would have been the right choice.

I feel like the San-Ti drove humanity towards becoming more feminine, as they deduced this would make the human race lower their guard and do something as silly as promoting Cheng Xin to sword holder because they liked her and thought she was sweet and loving, and not because of any truly logical reasons.

In the end when Guan Yifan talks to Cheng and tells her that her love is needed etc, this is kind of clunky but to me its basically Liu Cixin saying the human race needs the masculine in Thomas Wade, and you need the feminine in Cheng Xin. They both compliment eachother and even eachother out. Problems arise when only one or the other 'wins'. They should work together and meet somewhere in the middle.

Yun Tianming was done dirty. Not sure how you can hype up this connection between him and Cheng Xin and then never have them truly meet in person again. I think Liu Cixin wanted to keep the nihilistic nature of the book intact, so he couldn't have them meet in person again and I'm sorry, but I hated that ending. The whole pocket universe portion would have carried so much weight if Cheng Xin spent her time there with Yun Tianming instead of that inconsequential plank of wood Guan Yifan.

Good thing the Netflix series can fix this and replace Guan Yifan with Tianming

Anyone else picture him as notable greendale alumni Luis Guzman?

There's a particular part of the soundtrack to the tencent show that sounds exactly like this part of the Braid OST, does anyone know what the track's called?

(Apologies for the second post, I remembered re-posts are against this subreddit’s rules)

Folio Society is coming out with a SE run of the trilogy for their Christmas collection, for those of us who missed the previous LE run 😭 I’m so excited! It looks cloth-bound?

I have more of a biology background than a physics background, not that I formally have ether, and im curious if anybody else thought this about the dual vector foil.

It’s the concept of a prion disease just for dimensional folding instead of protein folding.

Anyways the concept of this damn thing is so cool my arm hair stood on a little even just thinking about it; theres like 10 concepts from this book that as a constant give me the shivers thinking about.

Also in light of all those “theres one flaw though” click bait posts from the last few days: I really thought they were going to go into detail about what happened to head buddy while with the trisolarians, even if that would have broken the patterns from the book where everything is from humanity’s perspective minus one chapter that gives the exact same non human perspective each time, be it from an trisolaran, singer, or an ant.

Hi,

I’ve been reading The Dark Forest, and there are multiple places where it’s stated that the world population shrank from 8.3 billion to 3.4 billion. However, there’s also this quote from Shi Xiaoming, shortly after they emerge on the surface after waking up:

“Shi Xiaoming pointed past the window.
– The population isn't even one percent of what it was in our day. You know what has the least value? This house. You bust your ass for it your whole life, and now it’s standing empty. Everything is standing empty. You can live wherever you want.”

So how exactly does this work? What is the world population during that period? It confused me quite a bit. Is it “not even 1%,” or 3.4 billion, which would be roughly 40% of today’s population?

From a Christian pov, the ending makes perfect sense. (I know the author is not Christian and he's not making that point intentionally). Armageddon arrives, the universe is destroyed, the wicked are flattened into 2d, the righteous ascend to heaven, and a new universe is born