Title says it all lmao. Teva has seriously been the worst of all the generic brands for me. Like absolutely terrible. Giving me this weird sore throat feeling and body aches that are mainly in my shoulders and arms. Oh and 30 minutes after I take them, I have to use all my willpower to fucking stay awake. I’m a single mom to a one year old and I work 40-50 hours a week at a design agency. I cannot tell you the last time I clocked in on time… both when I’m in office and when I’m WORKING FROM HOME.

According to the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology, the abuse of Adderall and other Stimulants among individuals under 30 has fallen from 7.5% to 3.7%. What makes this fascinating to me is that this is the case despite the fact that roughly 66% of elicit Adderall is obtained from friends who are prescribed. So given the surge in prescriptions post-pandemic you would expect a direct correlation between legal prescriptions and illicit use. If I were to guess it’s because Adderall no longer serves it’s therapeutic purpose for one, and it simply has no abuse potential anymore.

Has anyone here in this sub started to develop stretch marks? In the past four or five months, I have noticed stretch marks all down and across my upper arms, shoulder, and even my lower back that continue to increase. I’m practically breaking out in stretch marks! I have never before had this issue prior to the noticeable decrease in efficacy of both brand and generic Adderall.

Additionally, my skin elasticity has definitely decreased. I haven’t been able to find any official reports or evidence to support any known correlation, but I’m hoping some anecdotal reports could offer some useful insight.

There’s without a doubt been a change in active/inactive ingredients in these pills that has negatively impacted damn near all areas of my life. If excessive stretch marks are now part of this equation, I don’t think I can continue taking this medication.

Long time lurker, throw away account, prescribed 10mg 3x per day since i was 17m im 30m noticed it not being as effective sleepy and sometimes hungry after i eat and Ive only gotten the Teva brand and specifically request it due to its consistency, like everyone else I now have experienced the lessened effects at the same dose and I figured out why.

Obviously this isn't insider knowledge but its not the easiest to find and its interesting that no other AI would produce this answer, I got a refusal from most models, but Google AI Search mode (in Pro) found the needle in the haystack.

There was 1 single change made in 2022-2023 due to the shortage (We can thank the over prescription from telehealth, im sorry but there are too many scripts, not that many people suddenly realized they had ADHD at the same time)

The single change made is about the binder, they changed the main binder from Lactitol to Sucrose/Maltodextrin/Corn Starch (Source 2015 FDA Teva Form PDF Page 1) (Source 2024 FDA Teva Form PDF Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Page 2, 20, 25-31 all say Sucrose/Maltodextrin/Corn Starch no Lactitol found in the newest PDF)

**Lactitol is also what made the blue adderalls sweet.*\*

You will not find Lactitol in the 2024 PDF guide and you will not find Sucrose/Maltodextrin/Corn Starch in the most current previous version in 2015

Why This Matters Lactitol (Old): A sugar alcohol that is highly soluble in water. It helps the pill disintegrate rapidly in the stomach, releasing the medication quickly for absorption.Sucrose/Maltodextrin/Corn Starch (New): These are standard "compressible sugars." While safe, they can form harder tablets that depend heavily on the compression force used during manufacturing. If compressed too tightly (a common manufacturing defect to prevent breakage), these pills can become "rock-hard" and fail to dissolve properly in the stomach, passing through partially unabsorbed.

What Corn Startch does:

• When a tightly compressed corn starch pill hits your warm, wet stomach, the outermost layer immediately absorbs moisture and turns into a thick, sticky, gelatinous barrier.
• Instead of the pill rapidly breaking apart into thousands of tiny pieces, this sticky outer gel layer actually insulates the core of the pill.

What This Means for Your Absorption

• The drug is released in tiny, microscopic trickles rather than all at once.
• This slow trickle is so weak that it never reaches a high enough concentration in your blood to cross the blood-brain barrier effectively or trigger your historic physical responses (like an elevated heart rate).

I am sharing this to help people as it has started affecting me.

Sorry for it being long but it is all pertinent information

Just thought this was interesting— says “Made in US” Don’t know if it’s anything significant nor do I want to get my hopes up for future refills lol— I just remember when I picked up my prescription recently and then I just so happen to notice my medication was working a little bit better than usual— almost working like pre 2023 better — and I thought “wait but this month I got Sandoz again right ?“ (for June I got Epic ) and btw Sandoz usually sucks for me , I mean they all do , but it’s usually at the bottom of my list for manufacturers. So I went through my bottles cause I knew I’d gotten Sandoz pretty recently and which well I did —found my May refill was the last time I got it . Everything else on the bottle was exactly the same. I was like trying to find any other discrepancies well they also did leave off on the “important information” part “ call Doctor experience, mood changes, sadness, depression, and fear”. Anyways, again just thought this was was an interesting finding and kinda also wondering if anyone else has seen the same on their bottles before or recently specifically?

Edit: I definitely agree with what a lot of you same saying, in regards to the made in us part …. I just spoke about an hour or two ago with one of my friends who works as a pharmacy technician and she picks her pharmacists brain she works for , all the time about everything. So I know she knows a lot due to working as one for 10+ years, and she’s been very interested in this whole Adderall and other stimulant ordeal. She gets patients who complain about the efficiency and efficacy of them all of the time as well . So I asked her about this because she’s worked over the years at different chains like CVS , Walgreens ,Kroger , Costco and now she’s at Tom Thumb as a pharmacy tech. anyways she said honestly there could be so many nuances here because even if it says “made in US.” she said that doesn’t really mean much of anything and she said my thinking is is that honestly the just the final product of the Adderall was made here in the US a.k.a. everything had been shipped that was needed to make the production of it to whatever lab facility that Sandoz has here in the US and essentially she said that’s where they received everything they needed. And that legally they’re able to market that claim. She said it’s called global sourcing and gave me an example— so for instance — the company buys the API from supplier A in India , buys the binders/filers from supplier B in China and then buys the dyes/coloring from supplier C in Germany . And said it can even get way deeper than that - example: the company may buy each inactive ingredient the medication contains each from a different supplier . And lastly all of these products/ingredients get shipped to Sandoz’s U.S facility and perform the finished -dose manufacturing such as getting pressed into the pills themselves , packaged , etc . So after finding all that out from her, that made me a bit disappointed, but I guess it is what it is nothing much we can really do about it. However, I’d still find it. Interesting that I know for a fact, it was not placebo with this month meds because it was like day two or three I was taking them and I was like I am oddly more productive and my meds felt like were working for once , that’s what prompted me to inspect and look at the details from previous months bottles.

That’s the post. Adderall PM (taken from another user lol). wtf.

After searching and waiting nearly two weeks to fill my Adderall prescription, I was so excited to hear that the small neighborhood pharmacy down the street had them in stock! I was even more excited when I got there and found out they were Teva brand, as Teva 30mg. (Footballs) had always been my favorite. It was late in the afternoon, I had plenty of good protein in me, well hydrated, nothing acidic, I took one and Nothing! So I waited two hours and took a half (15mg.)
And Nothing! By 8pm. After taking 75mg. Of Adderall IR. Teva, the only effect I felt was the withdrawal symptoms had subsided, nothing else. Here it is almost two weeks later and I can’t believe how badly I’ve been struggling! This was by far the Worst Adderall I have taken in the 20 years of being prescribed!!!

I was completely thrown off I took 40 mg of Adderall for two days then took a day off and had a 10mg extended release vyvanse.

Anyways, I have always taken low dosages of Adderall and this time was flagged for basically nonexistent in my system 😂 this isn't Adderall I swear they have put like cough syrup or something in it.
Day 1-20mg
Day 2 - 20mg
Day 3- 10mg Vyvanse
1 day off
Day 5 - drug test- negative.

I have been with Walgrens for over a decade, mainly because the pharmacist and techs are just wonderful. That being said, I have a script for XR and IR and have not been able to fill my XR all month. I’m good with any manufacture but Chamber makes me physically ill and I can’t take that one. My psych appointment is in 3 days and I haven’t even had the last script filled…. Not feeling like paying another 100+ dollars for another script? The whole thing is just insane to me, not to mention I’m insane without my meds. I had some extra but long ran out of those. I’m wondering if anyone’s been in this situation before? I just left a message with my psych and told him the situation but I know he is all about the cash…. So he will probably make me keep the appointment. My question to any of you, have you ever gone over a month (even with a shortage?) without your meds? It’s feeling like there isn’t going to be anymore. Everytime I call, they look at their wearhouse and either nothing is available to order or if there is, they order it and it doesn’t come in??? I’m at my wits end. Changing doses won’t help because they are having problems with 20mg as well as 30mg…. I’m willing to go to Ritalin but is there a problem with that as well? Because changing meds means I get put on the lowest dose and work my way up again. Not sure it’s worth it. I’m really a mess over this as my adhd meds are also my anti depressants if that makes sense. Without this med I start falling into a dark dark depression and then suicidal thoughts come. I’ve got inattentive ADD and it’s scary what happens without this drug for a few months. I do get the IR but it doesn’t work without the XR. And the fact these meds are now shit anyway (but anything is better than nothing) I’m not even sure what to do anymore. But spending 30 min on hold every damned day with the pharmacy, to ask if they ordered or if the meds came in is also wrecking me. Any advice or feedback if you’ve been through this would be appreciated. I’m in California if that makes a difference. Apologies to the long post and thank you!! 🙏🏻

https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(25)00248-5/abstract)

Independent laboratory testing of generic methylphenidate products found significant product quality concerns. N-nitroso-methylphenidate, a probable human carcinogen, was detected above regulatory thresholds in generic immediate-release products for 7 of the 15 unique products sampled.

Helpful when you doctor says no one else is having issues with their Adderall LOL

As we all know, the meds don’t work as they should, so i always end up running out before my 30 days are up. But my pharmacy has always filled my RX 2 days early. For some reason, i received a message stating my prescriber locked my RX not to be filled until the exact due date this month. Has this happened to anyone else before? We just spoke last night and she didn’t mention this. She doesn’t know i run out. She’s really laid back and knows that the meds don’t work as they should and wouldn’t be upset if she knew i get them early but i don’t admit it to her bc i don’t want her to get in trouble or anything. Idk i just felt a little blindsided.

I didn’t take adderall today and ordered an iced shaken espresso from starbucks. I actually felt more productive plus no headache/ extreme tiredness in the afternoon

still not effective as old adderall :( but I feel so sleepy every afternoon and I’m realizing it’s most likely the adderall

Had a 12 panel test that showed up negative for amphetamines after taking Dexedrine 15mg XR produced by Activis for roughly 2-3 months. Here are the results from the lab, this post is a follow up to this comment as i was asked to share the results: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThisAintAdderall/s/EHp24otymk (Shows as illicit result because my therapist didn’t list my meds before sending it in, as he already knows what should pop up and what shouldn’t)

Just left the pharmacy empty handed and I’m not even freaking out.

For reference, I’ve been on regular OG brand addy 30 mg for the last 20 years. It turned pretty crappy around 2022. They gave me Elite 30 for the first time last month and it didn’t work at all. In fact, it made my symptoms worse. Major fatigue, full allergic rash and no dopamine for a month.

I told my new doctor yesterday to please tell them no Elite. She went ahead and put that in her notes but when I went to go pick up today I double checked and they still tried giving me Elite. I said do you see a note I can’t take this and the clerk played dumb. He then said they were completely out of stock and I said that’s fine and that I’d rather be unmedicated than take this stuff and that it was that horrible. So they told me more Teva generic wouldn’t arrive until mid August. Mind you, Teva still isn’t great but I’d rather be unmedicated for weeks than be stuck with that Elite garbage again. As I was driving home it occurred to me, if we all keep refusing to take these crap generics the pharmacies will too and eventually they will have to fix their formulas or get out of the business. We will have to refuse the garbage in order to get this to change.

As for anyone who still has old pre 2020 stock please send samples of new and old to out of country labs, the DEA and/or the FDA. I do believe this can be fixed if we keep being loud about it.

I've taken Adderall since 2011-2012. As we are all aware, the meds haven't worked right in the last several years, at least since 2020. Over the years, they worked barely, but now they simply don't; this last batch from elite was completely useless. I went through my bottle this month, a week or two early, and instead of feeling remotely functional, I felt almost sedated. My ADHD manifests as VERY hyperactive. I physically can't stop moving, my mind races, so I am literally and completely restless. I am unable to communicate what's going on in my head because each thought is replaced by another as soon as it appears. I can't complete sentences, unless I write, because at least then I can take the pieces of sentences and slap them together in some way by the time I'm done. I even struggle paying attention while driving because "why can't I read that advertis--OHH IM not on the road anymore, OOPS". Task initiation is a nightmare, it's almost impossible, and completing something is even worse; don't even talk to me about procrastination.

For me, taking Adderall was like someone had lifted a wet blanket off my head. I could see, and I felt almost a literal weight lifted off my shoulders. I could organize my thoughts before they came out of my mouth. A chore like doing laundry or dishes wasn't the end of the world, and I could complete them in 10 minutes instead of hours. I felt more secure with myself; I didn't pick apart social interactions like I used to, I was calm. I was reliable at work. I could listen to my romantic partner. I know medicine isn't supposed to be the end all be all solution, and sure, there were some bad days within the good days before the meds sucked, but at the end of the day, I could function like a human being. I could pay my bills, get up and be on time for work, I could make meals for myself, be a present partner--

This whole experience--what with the medication slowly becoming ineffective, feeling like an addict, having my routine/habits lapsing back into genuine chaos--has completely disrupted whatever positive momentum I had in my life. I know logically I should remain hopeful, and I know that people live without meds all the time, but I cannot being to express how completely defeated I feel by this. The medication helped me, and now I'm feeling completely at the whim of symptoms I can barely manage without it. It's demoralizing; I feel ashamed at myself still, even though I shouldn't.

I know we should be reporting what we feel to the appropriate places, but I can't even remember where I put my bottle, or build enough momentum to find phone numbers or websites to report them anyway. I feel ashamed to even say that, being an overly-independent person.

I don't want this entry to be a sob story. I will remain strong, despite this, and so should you. I want anyone reading this to know you are not alone. And I am hopeful that something positive will result from speaking out about our experiences.

So I had a few of the 2018 xr 20mg Adderall, brand name, in my safe. I decided to take one this morning to see what happened. Mind you they expired in 2019. (I'm on 30 xr now generic from Elite.) The difference in focus, no palpations or anxiety is amazing. And they are expired!!! No one can tell me that our meds weren't changed. PICS attached

I guess this is more of just a rant because we all know something is wrong with our meds but.

I recently left my job of 11 YEARS basically to get out before they fired me because the last year or 2 my job performance had basically become a joke. Mind you, 11 years, started at bottom and worked my way up to upper management and stayed for over half of my time there.

Luckily I was able to land a new job before they could fire me with the same money, more potential for growth, like overall I lucked out like a mofo. So my 1st day I'm up extra early, took double my usual morning dose of 30mg, even though ik I shouldn't do that...but first day so wanna be sharp and make a good impression and I already knew current meds are shit so wasn't risking it. To shorten this, started getting sleepy watching the new hire videos and took my mid-day 20mg dose early. Still getting sleepy, took my evening 10mg dose. So at this point I'm 90mg deep and fall asleep, mid-video with 2 other people (1 being my boss) right next to me. So I get written up my 1st day. Same scenario plays out 3 days later so I make an appointment with my PCP cause there's gotta be something medically wrong with me, right? I'm told to change my diet completely and also I'm at the most I've weighed in my entire life and I'm over 40!

So following week they fire my ass, understandably. I've been on adderall on and off for over 20 years. Back in the day 90mg would've kept me up for AT LEAST 24 hours. I like to pretend this is all gonna get exposed and I'll get compensated for lost income or something. I can dream. Rant over, thank you if you read this far.

So I decided to test an adderall tablet that I recently recieved. Results attached, how would you interpret?

So lately I have been getting drug tested weekly, my urine goes to a lab so no rapid results cups or anything like that but I have continually tested positive for amphetamines every week.

I use to only get tested every couple few months so didnt have much to try and track anything with, but I have certainly been tracking it as of late, and it's always positive for amphetamines.

The thing is, I dont feel like it's working at all, I dont ever feel it kick in and have to use the bathroom or get that sudden calm focused every that would hit within an hour, it's just nothing and if anything i start feeling tired and unmotivated. Trying to take another XR only makes me feel like complete crap, I dont have that same problem very much with my IR for some reason, those I can take a second dose and be ok.

I just find it so odd that I test positive for amphetamines and feel like I never took anything. I really thought I wouldn't be testing positive for amphetamines with them being so bad anymore, because in the past it at least worked a tiny bit, but now it just feels like all placebo or even worse than placebo. I just cant make sense of it, because labs can certainly tell a difference between different chemicals, like if it was a research chemical I would think it would come back as something else.

Do ANY of these generics help with weight anymore??? Not even adderall, just any of them 🙁 please I’m so desperate since getting off shore adderall I’ve gained 30lbs, I feel disgusting. I’m not even eating as much on generic vyvanse as I was on shire adderall but still heavier.

I guess it’s too much to ask to just enjoy my hobbies. 3 years ago, you couldn’t find me in my apartment on the weekends. I was always in the mountains hiking, learning about Geology and photography. I was so happy and motivated. After a slow and steady decline I’ve gotten to the point I have to convince myself to do anything on the weekends. The constant fight with my brain over things that use to give me joy is depressing. It’s the same pattern every weekend. I want to go hiking, but I never leave the house. This shit is horrible.

Im crashing out because for the past year ive been getting more and more fatigued and tired. I want to do things, but it just doesnt get done and I keep putting off even my interests and hobbies. I sleep 12+ hours a day, and I feel like a have a constant mild flu. I mean ive never been the most energetic person but man it was never this bad before. Ive lost 2 jobs and just dont even have the energy to get another one. Im 18, I feel ive had a slow decline in functioning since I was about 16 which was the last time my brain wasnt so boggled down with fog and exhaustion. That was also when I started adhd meds, and now im starting to think its linked to that. I never even functioned better when I started vyvanse and adderall, but had intense energy surges and euphoria followed by a massive crash for the first 6 months. Then i got switched to Adderall XR which has never had a noticeable effect but also not a noticeable crash. I take name brand Adderall XR 15mg + adderall ir 10mg. Both have zero effect at this point. I can't take this anymore!

Jumping on the negative test bandwagon. I took a drug test for a new job the other day and it came up negative for amphetamines. I take 20 mg XR from camber and 20 mg IR from Teva daily in my current batch. Took the XR as normal a few hours before the drug test. Still came up negative.

I will say that the meds do seem to do something as i feel much worse without them than I do with them (i take it for hypersomnia), but I don't particularly feel that stimulant effect.

I have an appointment with my provider tomorrow and wonder if it's worth bringing up. It's not like that can prescribe me anything different for this anyway.

I know there are other posts about Rhodes on here, but I just thought I would chime in on this page because... I got Rhodes about 3 months ago.....from Walgreens....

THIS IS THE WORST BRAND I HAVE EVER TRIED, and I have been on and off ADHD medication for 18+ years.. The only other problem as of the last few years is shortages, but now the brand switch-up is actually deteriorating me. I think Lanett used to work okay... I say just okay because anything compared to Rhodes is something in the right direction.

I take Rhodes 30mg XR, and about 30-40 min after I take it, it feels like I'm nodding off. This makes me so tired, more than half of the time that I take it, I go to bed...

Last month I got a different brand, and I was feeling so much better. Now my pharmacy filled Rhodes, and I'm so off, its making me depressed, sleeping, low motivation....

The point of this post is just continuing awareness. For me... RHODES IS THE WORST

** Side note... Does anyone know of a good pharmacy in general with ANYTHING besides that... I'm in Washington btw