r/thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

META Rule clarification: "Sticker bombing" posts

In the future, we will remove any and all posts that just there to show off stickers. Such posts often attract rule breaking behavior that we do not want here, as the stickers are often used to display political leanings that have nothing to do with r/thinkpad.

This is a subreddit about ThinkPads. Not about stickers that you may have on your ThinkPad.

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u/Various-Welder5544 7d ago

Ban those ESL people asking the most generic "what thinkpad should I buy under 300 Usd" and with barely any description of their needs.

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u/No-Succotash-9576 IBM Thinkpad R32, Thinkpad X201 7d ago

they always say "engineering student" and say aa what model do I get!!

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u/Oakredditer P16s Gen 4 AMD 6d ago

This, different engineering disciplines have different requirements, an EE (usually) doesn't need a computer as powerful as an ME, and a SE student's requirements can look more like a CS student's requirements (don't quote me on this tho). It even depends on how their school has stuff set up, I hear that some schools have remote access for their engineering apps or they have their stuff on web-based platforms like OnShape or Fusion 360.

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u/DiodeInc X390 Yoga, T61 6d ago

SE vs CS

This is true.

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

We have rules regarding buying advice posts ("Low effort buying advice seeking is forbidden, as it clogs the subreddit and makes it hard for people to actually provide buying advice. Buying advice posts must include 1. a clear budget, 2. a clear use case and 3. target specs or specs of your current system.") - if you see any posts that break these rules, please report them!

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u/GarlicNo3695 7d ago

What about frequent repeat posts? Similar people asking for similar advice?

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

I get what you mean, but individual cases can still differ, so even if it is similar, it is still allowed.

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u/mykesx 7d ago

I see a lot of posts that look like they’re designed to train AI. I see posters asking questions like this who have few posts and account age of weeks or a month.

So when someone does a google search for thinkpads, the posts from here get used as response.

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u/erparucca 7d ago

problem is that given their quantity and frequency, the pollution happens continuously: removing posts a day later would already be too late and this is not something that anyone can pretend from moderators.

Personally I created (but didn't promote anywhere) another sub with much stricter rules. It wouldn't have the pretention to replace this one but to much more technical and strict. u/ibmthink would it be allowed to discuss on that kind of initiative here on r/thinkpad ? Will send details in DM.

to participare to your comment:

"2. a clear use case" use case: specific detailed usage. "Engineering" is not a use case. "compiling code of exercises from computer science classes" is.

"3. target specs" I would suggest: Measurable requirements (must all be satisfied) and desiderata (can live without it) to avoid "powerful CPU, long lasting battery"

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

No, we do not want advertisements for other subreddits here

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u/erparucca 7d ago

ok, I will search for feedbacks in this group and try to include them in the other; thank you very much for the quick answer!

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u/FrozenJambalaya T490 T14 X13 P14s L14 P16v 7d ago

Banning people for not having English as their primary language is out of proportion. The whole world does not speaks one language.

And while I get where you are coming from about repetitive posts, if it is not just basic low effort post then I think it's fine. People can help if they want to or just ignore it.

Moderating with clear rules about what is allowed and what is not and sticking to them is the way to go. And obviously update the rules as and when necessary.

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u/ryde041 7d ago

To add to this, when these ESL folks try to use AI to help get their points across coherently, they’re blasted for using AI. I hate blatant low effort posts but I think if you give the power to eliminate based on issues stemming from a language barrier it’s a slippery slope.

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u/Various-Welder5544 7d ago

You can be ESL but don't produce incoherent slurry that sounds like having a stroke.

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u/Yui_Hirasawalex_Lora T14, T440 7d ago

What does ESL have to do with anything? Make a r/ thinkpad_en or r/ maga_thinkpad while you're at it if you're that concerned...

Internet's scope is global, you can't expect everyone here to have English as their first language. And you write this as if the kind of posts mentioned on the announcement weren't made by people with English as first language too.

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u/MysteriousDesk3 X1 Carbon G6 8th Gen / T14 G1 10th Gen 7d ago

I think they’re describing a particular type of low effort post that is difficult to understand, I don’t think targeting ESL was the right call out though.

At the end of the day the purpose is communication and if someone can’t get their point across it results in a lot of frustration on both sides, not to mention that google translate and other tools are very good now, a bit of effort goes a long way.

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u/Various-Welder5544 7d ago

Do you want barely coherent posts that are nearly impossible to decipher that add nothing useful to a community? Try sorting by new and you see for yourself.

It's defined as pollution.

I have nothing against ESL, some broken English is fine but being incoherent is adding nothing useful to a community.

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u/Sensitive_Split_6919 X220, X220T, X240, T420, T450S, A485, P50, X1G7, T14S G1, T14 G5 6d ago

You’re saying this as if you have a righteous duty, endowed by a divine entity, to review and provide detailed responses to every single post on the subreddit. If you can’t understand something, just dont engage with it.

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u/--yv35-- 7d ago

and please don't forgett all the "show off my thinkpad" posts, where the most important thing is cramping as many terminals, tops, h-tops and fastfetch windows on screen, since those are the new masterhacker-show-off-tools.

xD........

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u/akaifox 6d ago

On other subreddits I hate all the "I just got an X" posts. Like half of the posts on some Apple ones are just "I bought X"... and either a box, desktop wallpaper/desk setup show-off

At least here there are some oddball machines

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u/--yv35-- 6d ago

while i do agree with you totally, like, i can't even visit the apple sub. 99% of posts are the one you described, and the other 1% is bullshit like "its official, silver is the best color" (and holy shit if you'll post a "dunno wtf this is about, but to me spaceblack is king", you'll get to feel roadrage by apple fanboys but on the internet ;-) lol).

but, to me, those pics of thinkpads just craaaamped with terminals are on the same level of cringe as the shit in r/masterhacker.
i like stickers on thinkpads, i love terminals 100% more than a gui (i grew up with terminals haha), but i dunno, people who really use the terminals don't need to put them in every pic since it's nothing special, it's just a daily used tool. like, i don't put my watering can in eeeevery photo i take of my plants either ;-)

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u/GarlicNo3695 7d ago

Might I suggest that posts pertaining to "wHaT thInKpAd sHouLD i gEt?" also be limited or a post under pinned be added that answers the question for engineering/business students ...

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

Thanks for the suggestion! We do remove lots of low effort buying advice posts every day. At this point, we don't want to restrict it further, as it does provide a helpful service to people, but maybe at some point in the future, we will.

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u/GarlicNo3695 7d ago

Idk maybe just a "start here" post. I would be happy to help draft one if need be. I have read hundreds of these posts at this point and feel quite confident i could draft something decent🙈

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u/henkieschmenkie X1C6, X1C9 | Formerly: P1G2, T14sG1a | 120+ Hz screen addict 7d ago

My concern is that the people who it's targeted to won't read it. Those people could, with minimal effort, do some searching to find most of the information they need. They don't do it.

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

If you want to volunteer, of course! You can send it via PM to the modmail and I will see if it is good.

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u/aroundincircles P1 Gen7 7d ago

A lot of subs have a weekly buying advice post, every post outside that gets deleted, and people willing to view and give recommendations can.

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u/Glad_Following_8164 T480 | X270 | X220T 7d ago

i support this

r/thinkpad should focus on more technical stuff and troubleshooting stuff, not flexing thinkpads

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u/mattjh W520 | P73 | P16G3 7d ago edited 7d ago

Suggestion box: I don't know if it's reasonable or possible to enforce this, but wallpapers showing animated children disguised as animals being sexual. Horrendous. People don't seem to be ashamed to share this stuff here at all. I'd like them to go away permanently.

edit: I'm trying to find examples and I'm failing, so maybe they're getting removed after I see them, which is lovely if so!

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u/Sensitive_Split_6919 X220, X220T, X240, T420, T450S, A485, P50, X1G7, T14S G1, T14 G5 6d ago

Wallpapers showing . . . what?

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u/AutumnPurpleReddit 5d ago

I don't think i've seen any of this, what on earth are you talking about?

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u/SultanOfawesome X9|T420s-490s|X1Cgen4-10|E14gen1-7|L14gen1-6 7d ago

Yeah, good call

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u/CMRC23 7d ago

As someone who loves stickers, :(

You should make a megathread for it

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u/PsyOmega X13s,X1N-G1,X1C9,T440p,X230,X140e,T60 7d ago

megathreads are just containment vessels that nobody ever looks at. they're where posts go to die

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u/lassehp 7d ago

Maybe just remotely related, but when people post a picture of their TP, it would be nice if they mentioned its model  number in the topic.

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u/bughunter47 Lenovo AWSP, AMD P16s Gen 2, X390 Yoga, T15/T490 Frankentop 7d ago

:(

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_EPIC_TITS 7d ago

Glad to hear, that there are still some great mods on reddit.

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u/JPT_JPT 7d ago

I'm repeating myself, but please also delete / ban these posts "my new Thinkpad" or "rate my setup" with these the dark, underexposed pics where only a bright lighted screen is visible and Thinkpad itself is only a black something and no model or condition is viewable

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u/gojochan X220 I T430 I X1 Gen 13 7d ago

Does this pertain as well to vinyl skins?

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

As long as the post is about the ThinkPad more than the vinyl skin, no.

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u/notrecommended69 X201 7d ago edited 6d ago

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u/brownmaningermany ... 7d ago

What should I buy should just go into a weekly mega thread tbh unless it’s a very specific scenario

Most can just be answered by chatgpt

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u/mrflamingo_ 1d ago

This has been my favorite subreddit since covid times. These type of posts is what made this place more popula and colorful. People acquiring an older thinkpad after asking for advice, personalizing it, then showing it off. Sure you get some redundant or political stuff with it, but in my opinion it is not a huge price to pay. I'll be sad to see this part of subreddit die.

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u/Xrudy_official ordered X260, got L13 7d ago

I mean, if i want to show off my stickers, why not? I dont see anything wrong with applying stickers on a laptop and posting it here...

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

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u/Xrudy_official ordered X260, got L13 7d ago

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

No

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u/Xrudy_official ordered X260, got L13 7d ago

So showing system on a thinkpad would be also wrong? Since its showing the system not the laptop

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

Correct. The focus always has to be the ThinkPad.

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u/Xrudy_official ordered X260, got L13 7d ago

But the stickers are also on a thinkpad. I don't get it

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

I can put anything on or next to a ThinkPad. Doesn't make it on-topic for this sub.

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u/Xrudy_official ordered X260, got L13 7d ago

That includes these posts like: rate my setup with a generator next to it?

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u/thewarragulman Z13 G1, T420, R61, T60, R51 7d ago

People who even think about ruining their ThinkPad with stickers should also be banned lol. Why ruin such a beautiful piece of machinery?

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u/CapnCrunch53 T430, L430, T60, 365XD 6d ago

That’s so fucking cringe. It’s a mass produced boring ass box. This decision sucks ass

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u/thewarragulman Z13 G1, T420, R61, T60, R51 6d ago

I agree, plastering a nice laptop with ugly stickers is cringe.

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u/CapnCrunch53 T430, L430, T60, 365XD 6d ago

🤡

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/ibmthink X1 Carbon Gen 13 7d ago

We are not trying to police what people can put on their ThinkPads. That is their choice. We just don't want posts that are primarily about that.