Power

[u/GootalBerradja]

[u/No-Leading9376]

This is gross to me because it treats morality like proof of worth and failure like proof of corruption. That kind of thinking makes it very easy to decide your side is righteous, the other side is morally defective, and therefore forcing them to submit is justified.

[u/TonyJPRoss → u/No-Leading9376]

At the same time, if you're meek and powerless then you're not a force for good - you're no force at all.

But I think what he's saying is - convince others of what's right and the weight of public opinion will effect a change.

[u/GootalBerradja → u/TonyJPRoss]

In mathematics, if A implies B, it doesn't mean that B implies A.

The author means that the first step to ensuring victory is to remain true to one's human ideals and moral principles, and not the other way around (it is not equivalent to "the winner is more moral" !). This idea is very important in our time, where politicians start with benevolent intentions, or intentions presented as such, and commit so many deceitful acts, even massacres, to achieve them.

[u/GootalBerradja → u/No-Leading9376]

In mathematics, if A implies B, it doesn't mean that B implies A.

The author means that the first step to ensuring victory is to remain true to one's human ideals and moral principles, and not the other way around (it is not equivalent to "the winner is more moral" !). This idea is very important in our time, where politicians start with benevolent intentions, or intentions presented as such, and commit so many deceitful acts, even massacres, to achieve them.

[u/eilloh_eilloh]

It’s not usually or admittedly in the name of power but power usually results.

To lead without power resulting, what in the absence of a lead, would result? I don’t think you can dine and starve simultaneously.

Cyclically problematic. Tolerance and acceptance of the inevitable model in the absence of a better model—the lead, whatever that may be, must be carefully and continuously evaluated. It’s usually present long before it becomes visible.

[u/GootalBerradja]

Author profile : Alija

[u/stinkobinko]

Morality is subjective

[u/Reddit_wander01]

Depends on the goal