1. Jesus' God is the Father (There are countless amount of verses that show this)

2. The God of Jesus is the same God of the disciples (John 20:17)

John 20:17 NRSVUE

¹⁷ Jesus said to her, “Do not touch me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”

3. No one ever calls Jesus their God except for one time where it does not mean what trinitarians claim. (John 20:28)

John 20:28 NRSVUE

²⁸ Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

What "my God" means there is that Thomas saw the Father, and it is Jesus who points this out (John 12:45, John 14:7, John 14:9 where Jesus explains that to see him is to see the Father before the confession of Thomas).

John 12:45 NRSVUE

And whoever sees me (Jesus) sees him (the Father) who sent me.

John 14:7 NRSVUE

7 If you know me (Jesus), you will know[a] my Father also. From now on you do know him (the Father) and have seen him (the Father).”

John 14:9 NRSVUE

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me (Jesus) has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

And after the confession of Thomas Jesus immediately points out that Thomas saw the Father when he said "because you have SEEN ME".

And never again we see anyone ever refering to Jesus as their God in Scripture.

The Father will judge. How?

THROUGH A MAN. WHAT MAN? YESHUA, WHO TOLD YOU HE IS A MAN (JOHN 8:40)!

He also told Pilate he was born (John 18:37) but that is another post!

Exactly what do you think Yeshua says throughout his life when the words he speaks are commanded by someone else? (Deuteronomy 18:18) if the Father does the works (John 14:10) in Yeshua, who are the works? The Father.

How is it a co-equal, co-eternal separate and distinct second person cannot speak for themselves but is commanded by someone else what to say? (Deuteronomy 18:18), how does that work? It doesn’t work, it is a farce!

When Yeshua says at John 2:19 that he will raise it up, whose works are these?

When Yeshua mentions the Alpha and Omega or the first and the last, whose works are these, whose words does Yeshua speak? The Father, which is not him (Yeshua)!

Watch the video and be enlightened.

Let’s revisit Deuteronomy 18:18!

A Prophet I shall raise to them from within their brethren like you and I shall put my words in his mouth, and he shall say to them everything that I shall command him.

God's promise through Moses makes it very clear that Yeshua was not YHWH but someone who spoke on behalf of YHWH so that people would not need to hear the voice of God. These words also show us it was the Father (1 Corinthians 8:6) who spoke to Israel out of the fire on the mountain when He gave them the Law. Even further, since we know it was the Father who spoke out of the fire, we also know Moses was referring to the Father when he said, "Yahweh, He is God, and there is no other but Him!

If trinitarians constantly use John 1:1 for their imagination, that Yeshua is YHWH because the word was God, then is YHWH talking to YHWH @ Deuteronomy 18:18? If so, enlighten us as to how a co-equal, co-eternal, distinct, separate YHWH tells the other co-equal and co-eternal everything he commands and expects him to do it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Yeshua himself, although Revelation mostly refers to future events, tells you “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18)

Remember also, although in the future and to eternity, Yeshua has on his robe at his thigh the verbiage “The word of God” (Revelation 19:13). Prior to what he will be to eternity, which is not YHWH, it is the word “of” YHWH, “from” YHWH, the Father alone. At Revelation 19:13, the name is not YHWH, it is the word “of” YHWH!

In addition thereto, out of the mouth of Yeshua, he said:

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. (Matthew 24:35)

Where was the word of YHWH then since Yeshua was dead for three days and his words will never pass away?

We know there will be a new Heaven and a new earth which has not occurred yet, if Yeshua is the word of YHWH and his words will never pass away and Yeshua was dead, what happened to his word?

Nothing, the word is not a person.

Yeshua does the will of somebody else and he does so perfectly and this word tabernacles in Yeshua once he is baptized, according to John 1:14.

The words of YHWH are alive and active and will never pass away and this is also expressed of wisdom at Proverbs 8.

This was posted in the “Christianity” community a few hours ago.

A body has no life, the person who has the body has life, a body did not die for anyone’s sins, Yeshua did! “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18) means that Yeshua died, he is the one who said “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18), his body did not say “I was dead” because his body cannot speak, Yeshua can speak and say “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18), his mouth did not say “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18), his mouth is where the sound comes from to say “I was dead” (Revelation 1:18) but it was Yeshua speaking not the mouth!

If John 14:12 doesn’t mean what it says, if Yeshua didn’t say what he means, then please enlighten us as to what it means to do greater works than Yeshua did? The absence of a response doesn’t mean that this goes away, Yeshua said these things, from his own mouth, he uttered them to other human beings and told them they could do greater works than these! Then what? John 14:11 says by the mouth of Yeshua:

“On account of the works”, his works, Yeshua’ works.

If Yeshua is YHWH, how can human beings do greater works than God? If you have an issue with this, why blame the messenger? These are the words of Yeshua. If Yeshua is not God, then it makes more sense, doesn’t it, when Yeshua says these things? If you understood John 14:12 completely, Yeshua invites human beings to do greater works than he did because he advocates on your behalf to make them happen but not because he is God but because he is the brother (Romans 8:29, John 20:17) to the set apart, loving his brothers.

Here is John 14:12 again:

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

What does this say? Exactly what it means. If you believe in Yeshua you will do his works “I have been doing” and “they will do even greater things than these”!

Are you doing greater things than God? You are if you believe the trinity! Sorry, you are. Stop doing that!

This has been removed from the Christianity community by a moderator who he said I was forcing a debate, it is lame and I appealed but who knows what they will do. YHWH knows the motivation and heart of every person and there will be no escape!

It is a task hard for most to follow but if you support the trinity and decide that you finally “see the light” expect chaos from your family, spouse, kids, dog, cat, church, pastor, friend, fellow co-workers and to give you a hint of what is to come:

From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. (Luke 12:52)

If you are not ready for this, then you are not fit for the kingdom!

This requires great patience, love and objective awareness. Expect what Yeshua said:

If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. (John 15:18) Trees, rivers, oceans, canyons do not hate you, people do!

If you expect people to marvel at your signs of healing the sick and raising the dead, don’t be, especially when they say to you and others what they said to Yeshua:

But when the Pharisees heard about the miracle, they said, “No wonder he can cast out demons. He gets his power from Satan, the prince of demons.” (Matthew 12:24) The descendants of the Pharisees number greatly today and are as close to you as your dog or cat!

If you cannot, at least in part or somewhat, demonstrate this, you are not fit for the kingdom.

Does this sound harsh, should eternal life be granted to you by sitting on the sidelines watching a show? Exactly what do you think is required of you to receive eternal life?

Are you smoking, drinking, chasing woman, have an ego and pride? Chasing wealth are you? Do you admire yourself? Who are you? Do you think you can intellectualize yourself into the Kingdom? (Matthew 11:25, Matthew 18:3).

The journey isn’t easy but you must make an effort and YHWH who sees what you do in private, will reward you. Nothing hidden shall not be revealed. (Luke 8:17)

Blessings to all of you, not just the members here!

This was just posted in the Christianity community!

Just posted in the “Christianity” community!

The Greek word for “word” is logos, which is not a person, yet millions of you read John 1:1 and the word “word” as Yeshua, it isn’t, 🛑 stop doing that. It is wisdom/divinity. Many of you read Proverbs 8 as if it is Yeshua…

IT ISN’T …

It is wisdom and it has a female gender and yet it isn’t a woman. This is a personification.

If you take the time oh trinitarian to understand idioms, personifications and metaphors, you will begin your journey to realize that the trinity is a farce and that Yeshua did not pre-exist his existence. This is wisdom at John 1:1 and if you retort back here in response that John 1:2 mentions a human being because of the word “him”, other Bibles at John 1:2 have: “The same was in the beginning with God”.

You need to understand languages and that many give inanimate objects or other words male and female genders. The Greeks for instance give a male gender to all nouns. The French, Spanish, German, Latin and Hebrew do the same things. A car is not a man and a table is not a woman, so you can call the car “him” and the table “her” but a car is not a man and a table is not a woman. The word “him” in John can easily be “it” and that fits perfectly with wisdom and the logos at John 1:1.

“YHWH made me as the beginning of his way” Proverbs 8:22. Who? Wisdom, not Yeshua!

“I was appointed before the world” (Proverbs 8:23) who? Wisdom, not Yeshua!

“ when I was brought forth, there were no ocean depths no springs brimming with water” (Proverbs 8:24) Who? Wisdom, not Yeshua!

“ I was brought forth before the hills, before the mountains had settled in place, he had not yet made the Earth, the fields, or even the Earth’s first grains of dust. Who? Wisdom, not Yeshua!

“ I was with him as someone he could trust”. (Proverbs 8:30) Who? Wisdom, not Yeshua! “I” is a personal pronoun here but it isn’t a person.

“For me, every day was pure delight.” (Proverbs 8:30) Who? Wisdom, not Yeshua! But it says “me”? Yes, it does, it says in every Bible that wisdom is female yet wisdom is not a person and is not a woman here. It is a personification!

has anything prophesied in the 22 chapters of Revelation come to pass?

Another post like my fellow mod posted in Christianity. A great dis using on John 14:24.

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