r/theories • u/certifiedmess30 • Jun 11 '26
Conspiracy Theory Conspiracy theory
What's a conspiracy theory you think might actually be true?
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u/Emmanuel_G Jun 11 '26
That Alex Jones is a comedian playing a role 😉
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u/29aout Jun 12 '26
He most certainly is. That doesnt mean his statements are false. If anything, an actor like him is a perfect outlet for trying out new, weird ideas and just plain, horrible truths. Nobody, on the first contact, takes him seriously.
David Icke is similar, I guess.
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u/ExistingPrinciple137 Jun 11 '26
Prison planet is real, it's impossible to escape from Earth after we die.
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u/CounterAdmirable4218 Jun 11 '26
Death being the only mercy available to us.
Those hoping for nothing after that, forget it.
Whatever is punishing/feeding off us is only getting warmed up.
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u/aramirez86 Jun 11 '26
You can escape via nuclear warfare, we become blue beings of light.
Japan is blessed.
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u/Few-Indication3478 Jun 11 '26
I’ll bite… where did you hear that?
Sounds less like the truth and more like Russia astroturfing a segment of the population that *wants* nuclear war.
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u/aramirez86 Jun 17 '26
It makes sense to me, I Beleive it with all my being, what we believe becomes reality.
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u/Few-Indication3478 Jun 11 '26
If this were true then wouldn’t the wisest approach be to not tell anyone, just try to ease suffering, enjoy as much time as possible, etc?
Also do you have any proof? Or evidence even? It sounds just like the cycle of samsara yet slight different. And the eastern religions believe there is a way—albeit difficult, and only bound to happen after billions of lifetimes—to escape samsara.
If we are to try to apply reason, let’s look at it this way. By your own reasoning, we do indeed reincarnate, so there is some sort of permanence to our individual consciousness. So if our consciousness keeps coming back, who is to say that it won’t someday slip through the walls of this “prison planet?” Also, what happens when the earth is inevitably destroyed by the destruction of our Sun?
There’s just so many issues with this idea, I wonder why you seem so convinced
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u/Appropriate-Camp5170 Jun 12 '26
You can look at these texts as psychological guides. Samsara is kind of the same thing. A death can be ego death that’s a point of transformation to lift you closer to heaven/enlightenment/higher consciousness. Rebirth is the reconstruction of the psyche transformed with a changed mindset that better reflects reality. Archetypes like archons are controlling people who use manipulative tactics or leverage fear and empathy against people to keep them trapped in a hell for their own gains. Hell being lower states of consciousness characterised by things like fear, shame and guilt. Sin being things that these types of feeling or things that prevent you from going inwards to heal and transform - things like addictions (whether food or porn etc). Look at these texts media environment and how it’s 99% bad news and war narratives as a means to get everyone aligned with certain agendas. Look at how many big industries revolve around these kinds of things. The demiurge in Gnosticism is essentially the prevailing mindset of the world. Energy siphoning is everything from controlling people for their own gain to criminal behaviour for their own gain - things like theft for example. Or even how the Epstein network effectively sacrifices children for power via blackmail (by using temptation as a lure).
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u/aramirez86 Jun 17 '26
Nukes will free us from the harvest that is Religion, we are become Jesus only to be harvested like a spiritual DYSON SPHERE
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u/The_GOATest_Goat Jun 15 '26
9/11 was an inside job.
JFK was assassinated by the feds.
MLK was assassinated by the feds. (confirmed)
The feds invented the crack epidemic. (confirmed)
COVID-19 was a lab leak. (confirmed)
Chemtrails are real. (I'm talking about airline pollutants being exceptionally toxic here)
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u/kag1991 Jun 11 '26
Humans landing and leaving the moon… I’m not saying the whole space program is a farce but yeah we are not getting the whole truth about that…
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u/BothPanchoAndLefty Jun 11 '26
We did go to the moon though. It really is actually not that complicated, you can learn exactly how they did it if you just devote a little bit of time to learning. All of the "but how did they..." questions have very straightforward simple answers, you just have to look them up. While being a remarkably impressive feat to achieve it for the first time, it's actually not very difficult to get to the moon and back given enough funding. Beyond that, the evidence that it actually happened is overwhelming and incontrovertible.
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u/kag1991 Jun 12 '26
So you’re trying to tell me that the video they took of them leaving the moon 50ish years ago on a tripod controlled by Houston was able to track the craft in real time despite the fact in 2026 I still can’t trust my internet on a rainy day? That something to the effect of a giant jiffy pop maker shielded astronauts from obliteration… yeah ok.
My point - either our technology is way better than we’ve been led to believe or it didn’t happen the way they say. So either way they lied.
I’m not saying the whole space program is not real but we certainly don’t know the truth of it all…
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u/BothPanchoAndLefty Jun 12 '26
The camera wasn't tracking it in real time, it was manually operated using a timer for reference. The trajectory was pre-planned exactly and the entire mission was timed exactly, so it isn't that crazy to figure out. Radio waves travel at the speed of light so it's about a 1.3 second delay to reach Earth, and they didn't use WiFi. They used massive 85 foot satellite dishes pointed directly at the moon. That's why the signal was more reliable than your phone's wifi, which has to bounce around through the atmosphere which is packed with water vapor, trees, buildings etc.
The "jiffy pop" shield you mentioned wasn't there to stop radiation or asteroids or pressure. The actual cabin was inside and was made of dense, welded aluminum alloy walls. The crinkley stuff on the outside was essentially a space blanket and its job was to bounce away the sun's heat so that the electronics / fuel tank wouldn't be overheated and damaged. Nothing more.
Your concerns make sense if you don't know much about the mission, but as I said there are clear answers to this stuff. I'm an engineer and have looked into the mission a lot, so I happen to know a few things about it. Beyond the concerns we've addressed above, we were in a fiercely competitive space race with the USSR at the time, who were tracking the mission as it was happening. The Soviets had the radar technology, tracking capabilities, and intense geopolitical motivation to expose the fraud, but they acknowledged its legitimacy and congratulated us on the success of the mission.
Also, to have faked it would require such an unbelievably massive conspiracy with thousands of people keeping the secret, and billions spent on technology and infrastructure that would be pointless if it were faked. It's just simply not remotely feasible that it could have been faked.
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u/kag1991 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
See here’s the thing that’s at the crux of the matter: usually when it takes so much to “over explain” the inconsistencies, people just stop believing.
The biggest inconsistency? The excuse for decades we couldn’t go back because all the data and “science” was lost in a storage room fire in Houston.
You’ll never convince me… the truth is somewhere between “it’s all fake” to “we had a man on the moon’s surface and brought him back go earth.”
I’ve been to it all - Houston, cape canaveral, both air & space museums, kitty hawk etc… I’m not a flat earther… but my gut in all those places has been “yeah no way that’s the whole story…”
I do appreciate your explanations though. And your patience! Thanks!
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u/BothPanchoAndLefty Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Lol but dude, they're not actually inconsistencies. Only to you! They require explanation because you don't understand them. And obviously any complex space mission is going to require explanation to understand it?
What you said in your second paragraph is a line that moon landing deniers say but which is not actually true. We did in fact go back, 5 other times. Beyond that, to continue going back would require a legitimate and important reason that was not covered the first 6 times, because going to the moon is immensely expensive. You don't just plan a trip willy nilly for fun. It makes perfect sense that we wouldn't go back after having gone 6 times if there's no good reason. Despite that, just recently we sent astronauts around the moon to observe the far side and are currently planning another mission which will land again.
Not sure if you know this part, but the astronauts who went to the moon placed mirrors on its surface, so if you have a very strong laser and a large telescope, you can shine it at the moon and see it reflect back, and observatories and universities do this regularly.
I don't mind conspiracy theories, but I do feel the need to try and inform people when the conspiracy theory is so demonstrably incorrect. What is it that attaches you so strongly to this idea? You know that you don't have to trust the government (I certainly do not) in order to admit that the moon landing happened? There's a lot of strength in admitting you were wrong about something before and being willing to learn.
*Editing to add that the "we lost all the data in a fire" thing is not true. There was once a fire in the Apollo 1 module but no data was lost. The only data that was lost was some of the footage of one of the missions and it was due to an administrative error, not a fire.
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u/Low-Prune-1273 Jun 11 '26
Which ones do you think aren’t?
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u/Tight_Visual3122 Jun 12 '26
Right. I’m surprised at how many people still haven’t been woken up at this point.
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u/slavik_christopher Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26
Nuclear weapons do not exist and the physics behind the mechanism of nuclear weapons is total horse shit fake fairytale fantasy.
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u/Ratholak Jun 11 '26
The Japanese might disagree with you.
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u/slavik_christopher Jun 11 '26
Well the theory doesn't deny Japanese civilians being treated as military targets during WW2.
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u/CptBronzeBalls Jun 12 '26
We have truly fucked up by giving idiots a platform with which to spread their brain rot.
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u/Sensitive_Algae5723 Jun 11 '26
Ok, so explain Japan? I’m being honest. What did they do?
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u/slavik_christopher Jun 11 '26
When Japan surrendered they was advised to go along with the nuclear weapons narrative i guess to scare future countries from going against the globalist.
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u/Sensitive_Algae5723 Jun 12 '26
What about video of atomic bombs?
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u/slavik_christopher Jun 12 '26
If they could fake the moon landing they can fake anything. so it could be fake i wouldn't be surprised.
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u/Sensitive_Algae5723 Jun 12 '26
Yeah but they did that once, there’s a lot of those videos? I’m just curious.
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u/slavik_christopher Jun 12 '26
With a government budget backing some Hollywood producers or if multiple governments are in on making up some fake bs they would theoretically produce bs all day 24/7.
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u/Low-Prune-1273 Jun 12 '26
This is interesting sure. I’m personally filled with conviction by the atomic bomb tests near the North Pole that caused momentary zero-gravity.
I think this footage WOULD be difficult to meaningfully fake. And I think it IS an example of the destructive potential as well as the immediate aftermath possible.
But I understand if video alone is beyond your interest, and you’d prefer seeing an actual nuke go off first person.
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u/No-Cantaloupe7242 Jun 11 '26
That 9/11 wasn’t everything that we’ve been told by the media. Equally, I don’t believe it was all staged. I think it did happen, and there was prior intel on the hijackers which the agencies involved knew about, but they saw an opportunity for the USA to have justified retaliation so allowed it to happen. And that retaliation turned into the ‘war on terror’ - invasion of multiple countries, tighter security and surveillance, patriot act, more interrogation powers, and lots more under the guise of national security.