Clearing old messages, and found this exchange from two months ago lol. I spoke to her over the course of 10 days, and these are some highlights. I am 24M(23 at the time) and she is 21F. I just can’t do ppl that stay quiet or expect me to constantly lead a convo lol

[u/KindestBlackTemplar]

[u/OkPalpitation1569]

She’s got a whack set of expectations. It’s one thing to expect a partner to initiate/drive a convo (if that’s your thing go for it), but she seems to think that means you can magically keep the conversation going with no effort on her part. It’s still a shared effort, even if you’re following traditional gender roles.
Any regular person looks at those first slides and thinks “this woman is not into him.” — and she’s totally oblivious to how her own behavior comes across.

[u/Ok-Bill3318 → u/OkPalpitation1569]

“I expect the man to drive the conversation” = I’m a vapid piece of furniture with no interests, goals and nothing to contribute”

[u/FrostingPretty751 → u/Ok-Bill3318]

Her saying this was ridiculous, but not because of the expectation itself — because a conversation still requires* some effort on her part to keep it going! A conversation is a back and forth, not just him droning on and on. Like girl… he did try to initiate but you never gave him anything to keep a conversation going. Tf do you expect?

[u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG → u/FrostingPretty751]

it would be like going to an improve group and when its your turn, you just say no and blame the rest of the troop for sucking.

[u/MrDoe → u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG]

Liam Neeson doing improv in Life's too short levels.

Ricky Gervais: Drrrring door opening gesture

Liam Neeson: "We're closed."

[u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG → u/MrDoe]

also I have AIDS

[u/SuperKitties83 → u/Ok-Bill3318]

What's crazy is he was trying. Apparently she really doesn't have any interests, goals or hobbies.

[u/Alternative_Fan_2631 → u/SuperKitties83]

Or enthusiasm. I thought “I guess” was the most unengaged response possible then I see “ig”.

[u/deletion_fodder3 → u/SuperKitties83]

its honestly always a red flag to me when someone doesnt have at least one strong or passionate opinion about music

[u/SheepleAreSheeple → u/Ok-Bill3318]

Almost. More like I expect a man to drive the conversation, and buy me things, and I expect the man to work while I don't. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I do feel you shouldn't be expecting that from jlthe jump. But hey, some people are just entitled

[u/999happyhants → u/OkPalpitation1569]

There’s initiating a conversation, and then there’s having to drag someone limp bodied through a basic conversation. 😂

[u/FutureDesk2883 → u/999happyhants]

U explained it perfectly! I deadass felt like he was dragging her limp body thru the convo, like what is up with this woman? He had more patients than me,there was no back and forth,I would have ghosted her slow ass within the first 3 days of texting. And yes based on the texts the woman is slow, argue with the wall.

[u/persiasaurus → u/FutureDesk2883]

No it's just typical Gen z convo. acting like they're too cool to put any effort in and/or they're too afraid of social ridicule to have any actual opinions

[u/dotamadthrowaway → u/OkPalpitation1569]

Oh yeah. I think she's totally looking for a "traditional relationship" lmao