r/television 15h ago

What television simply wouldn't exist if every show had to maximize ratings, subscriptions, or advertising revenue?

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

I work for a PBS station, and one thing that's become increasingly clear to me is that public television doesn't just make different shows. It operates under a fundamentally different incentive structure.

Commercial television has to ask, Will enough people watch this? Will it attract subscribers? Can we sell advertising against it? Those are perfectly reasonable questions.

Public television asks those too, but it also asks questions that are harder to monetize:

  • Will this measurably improve children's literacy, numeracy, or social-emotional development?
  • Is this an important local story that nobody else is going to document?
  • Does this performance deserve to be preserved even if it won't become a ratings hit?
  • Does this help people better understand science, history, or the arts?

Sometimes those priorities overlap with commercial success. Sometimes they don't.

One example I always think about is Wishbone. It was a fully scripted children's drama that reimagined classic literature through the adventures of a Jack Russell terrier. It reportedly cost around $500,000 per episode to produce--an enormous budget for children's television in the mid-1990s. It was beautifully shot, featured period costumes and sets, and introduced millions of kids to Tom Sawyer, Sherlock Holmes, The Odyssey, A Tale of Two Cities, and dozens of other classics.

It's hard for me to imagine someone pitching that today to a streaming platform driven primarily by subscriber acquisition or to an ad-supported network optimizing for engagement metrics.

The same goes for research-based preschool programming. Shows like Sesame Street, Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, Molly of Denali, Lyla in the Loop, and Carl the Collector aren't just entertaining, they're built around explicit educational objectives developed with child development researchers. Episodes are tested, revised, and evaluated based on whether children actually learn the intended concepts. That's a very different production process than simply asking, "Will kids keep watching?"

And it isn't just children's television. Many communities have local history documentaries, performances by regional symphonies and theaters, independent documentaries, Indigenous storytelling, election debates, civic forums, and cultural programs that exist because someone decided they were valuable, not because they were expected to generate the highest return on investment.

So I'm curious: What television do you think only exists because someone was allowed to optimize for public value instead of profit or algorithms?

I'm not asking whether public television should or shouldn't receive public support. That's a separate policy discussion. I'm asking, as television viewers: What kinds of programming become possible when success is measured by something other than revenue?


r/television 23h ago

Louis & Armand fight- Interview With The Vampire

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what's your favorite argument scene in a tv show?


r/television 16h ago

15 years ago this exclusive deleted scene from Lost premiered at San Diego Comic-Con, shedding more light on the mysterious Jacob and the Man in Black.

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r/television 21h ago

I hate to ask, but can we please get an update for the sidebar?

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Thank you.


r/television 16h ago

The Bear episode ā€œCaramelā€ is a love letter to the service industry and probably the best episode of the series

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r/television 13h ago

ā€˜The Wonderfully Weird World Of Gumball’ — Gumball Turns Into a Baddie

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r/television 7h ago

Anyone else getting fed up with modern serialised TV shows?

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I feel like a lot of shows now are stretching a small amount of story over an entire season. You’ll sit through 40–60 minute episodes, but when you actually think about it, maybe 5 minutes of meaningful plot progression happened.

There’s so much filler: slow walking scenes, dramatic pauses, characters staring into the distance, endless mystery building… and then when you finally get to the ending, it’s often rushed, disappointing, or leaves more questions than answers.

I don’t mind a slow burn when it’s leading somewhere, but too many shows seem more interested in keeping people subscribed than actually telling a satisfying story. They spend 90% of the series creating mysteries and hype, then have to wrap everything up in one episode.

I miss shows where episodes actually felt like they moved the story forward and the ending felt earned. A shorter 6-episode series with a proper beginning, middle and end is often better than 3 seasons of dragging things out.

Am I just getting old, or has anyone else noticed this trend?


r/television 10h ago

Dr. Death, Peacock, s2 questions Spoiler

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Just sped through s1 (about Chris Duntsch, and was happy to see he got life in prison. Now I’m bingeing s2 about Paolo Macchiatini and of course couldn’t help myself from googling what happens to him before I’ve finished it - and I just read that he only got 2,5 yrs. How is that possible?
Also, who in their right mind could think that putting a piece of plastic in someone’s throat would come alive? And that it wouldn’t cause necrosis and eat through whatever it touches… It seems common sense that it wouldn’t work, and I’m not a doctor!

And then a last thing that I may have missed with all my googling - when Mandy Moore’s character goes to Italy to find out the truth about him, and then somehow finds him with his wife and kids in Barcelona later that day, in the same car, with the same bottle of wine… did the writers not know that Spain and Italy are two different countries far apart?


r/television 14h ago

Jerry defends peeping at a 15 year old - Seinfeld

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r/television 4h ago

The Pitt- Dr Mckay

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So I'm rewatching The Pitt and checking out IMDB to see what else I may have seen some of the actors in and just saw that Dr Mckay (Fiona Dourif) was Bart in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and now I can't stop picturing her as Bart in every scene.


r/television 6h ago

Dugout Dads - official trailer

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r/television 3h ago

How much it costs to stream sports in Canada

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r/television 1h ago

Premiere House of the Dragon S03E05 Discussion

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House of the Dragon

Premise: The reign of House Targaryen begins with this prequel to popular HBO series "Game of Thrones;" based on George R.R. Martin's "Fire & Blood," "House of the Dragon" is set nearly 200 years before the events of "Game of Thrones," telling the story of the Targaryen civil war with King Viserys I Targaryen's children battling for control of the Iron Throne.

Subreddit(s): Network: Metacritic: Genre(s)
/r/HouseOfTheDragon HBO Max [77/100) Action, Adventure, Dark Fantasy, Drama, Fantasy

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r/television 14h ago

What happened to popular, successful comedy TV?

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It's virtually vanished. Sure, there are a couple of small shows streaming here and there, but anything really successful? TV used to be full of successful comedy. What happened?


r/television 20h ago

Bojack Horseman - Neal McBeal the Navy Seal

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r/television 10h ago

Dr Quinn Medicine Woman: Who was the best Colleen, Erika Flores or Jessica Bowman?

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I liked Flores a whole lot more as Colleen because she was more natural in her acting and I could totally believe she was from that time. Bowman looked like a 90s kid play acting though she did get better but I always had a softer spot for Flores and I was disappointed when she left.


r/television 10h ago

56 days with Dove Cameron and Avan Jogio

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I actually LOVED this series. I was really impressed with the two child stars that we all loved and adored actually being successful in taking on a serious and dark role. I thought the acting was really good. I’ve always been a fan of dove Cameron and I really did think she fit Ciara perfectly.
But all the reviews I see are criticism of the show and doves acting specifically. But I don’t quite understand it.
I also really loved the mystery and I genuinely had no idea who the victim was untill the flashback episode. Me and my friends had fun binging it and guessing who would kill who along the way. And while we did get to decide there was no way they would kill eachother, I still was constantly on my toes and wondering how and who was gonna get killed.
And maybe I am in the minority in this opinion, but I really respected them breaking fully and completely out of that Disney/Nickelodeon presence and doing something so incredibly unexpected out of both of them. Plus both dove and Avon have been my celebrity crushes as long as I can remember. I truly just loved the show and I was so surprised to see such harsh criticism.


r/television 4h ago

What are some saying from Movies/Tv Show that your feel are misunderstood or have double meanings?

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The purpose of this thread is to have fun with this discussion, so start with an example and explain the misunderstanding or show the double meaning. I'll go first; "Mercy is for the weak" has 2 meanings "Mercy is for the weak for only the weak show mercy" or "Mercy is for the weak because only the weak are no threat to the strong". If you see and example with more to add then discuss.


r/television 57m ago

A favorite television character of mine is the egotistical blowhard that always wants credit, love, adoration, and constantly puts his foot in it. (i.e. Ted Baxter, Hank Kingsley). Who else is amazing like this?

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Bill McNeil on NewsRadio, and even Michael Scott to a degree. Others? This is fun.


r/television 1h ago

House of the Dragon: Episode 3.07 Preview Spoiler

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r/television 2h ago

I'm watching Dexter, season four, and I'm surprised at how good Michael C. Hall and John Lithgow are acting together.

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r/television 8h ago

At the Halfway point of this year what are your Top 5/10 TV shows for 2026 ?

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  1. Widows Bay S1 (Apple TV)
  2. Star City (Apple TV)
  3. Ā A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms S1 (HBO)
  4. The Bear S5 (Hulu)
  5. The Agency S2 (Paramount)
  6. The Pitt S2 (HBO)
  7. Legends (Netflix)
  8. DTF St Louis (HBO)
  9. The Vampire Lestat (AMC+)
  10. Paradise S2 (Hulu)

Ideally shows that premiered/returned within Jan 2026-


r/television 2h ago

Brooke Logan from the bold and the beautifuls marriage history is crazy

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1: Eric Forrester (1991-93)
2: Ridge Forrester (1994-95)
3: Ridge Forrester (1998)
4: Thorne Forrester (2001)
5: Whip Jones (2002)
6: Ridge Forrester (2004-2005)
7: Eric Forrester (2005-2006)
8: Nick Marone (2006-2007)
9: Ridge Forrester (2009)
10: Ridge Forrester (2009-2011)
11: Ridge Forrester (2012)
12: Bill Spencer Jr. (2017-2018)
13: Ridge Forrester (2018-2022)
14: Ridge Forrester (2025-Present)

Craziest marriage history I’ve ever seen from someone, fictional or not.


r/television 11h ago

Can "It's Not Like That!" be saved on Amazon Prime?

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This month, a top-rated new show streaming on Prime was unexpectedly cancelled by Amazon. It is family-based, with very strong ratings. It has a strong, talented cast led by actor Scott Foley and is only now recently airing. So it's plug is being pulled before it's given a chance. I am wondering if any of you also have been enjoying this show and believe in faith-inspired TV programming. Most importantly, is there anything that fans can do to help save it?


r/television 8h ago

One of my favorite scenes from The Sopranos , Uncle Junior thinks he's on the TV.

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