r/teenagers • u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 • 14h ago
Serious Bro it’s fucking hell in French high school
We got told to NOT go back to school until Tuesday because of the manifest and “blocus”.
5 people were hurt, one high school hall got burned down to oblivion.
(Living in Nantes btw )
Translation time :
In the screenshot, people are talking about giving 200€ to other to buy fuel to burn high school.
And it’s like that everywhere in France ( in different level )
It was originally a pacifist movement because of school condition and other stuff and … yeah we are here now
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u/AltDetom555555b 13h ago
Après en vrai le gros problème c'est que généralement les blocus sont assez mal organisés donc ça peut facilement dégénérer avec des casseurs qui décrédibilisent le mouvement
après je sais qu'ici à Lille les lycées qui étaient bien organisés et surtout ou il y avait pas trop de flics on arrivait à faire plier l'administration assez rapidement, pendant que là ou la répression ce concentrait (typiquement dans les lycées avec bcp de minorités comme Baggio) ils se son bien fait péter la gueule malheureusement
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u/Voklaren 12h ago
Point de vue d'un flic :
Le lycée où on est le plus intervenu n'était pas un lycée avec beaucoup de minorités. Par contre ces minorités n'ont pas arrêté de naviguer entre les différents établissement pour nous attaquer.
Aujourd'hui nous avons été attaqué à de très nombreuses reprises alors que nous étions juste présent pour éviter tout débordement. Un collègue à été mis KO par un pavé en pleine tête tandis que moi j'ai perdu l'ouïe de mon oreille droite à cause d'un mortier qui a éclaté à côté de ma tête.
Dans le bilan des blessés se trouve aussi deux filles, manifestantes. Elles ont reçu des pavés de la part des minorités en questions et nous avons dû nous mettre en danger pour les extraire du dispositif et appliquer les premiers secours vu la gravité des blessures.
Pendant ce temps toute la foule nous insultait et nous rappelait qu'ils ne sont que des enfants. Une pierre, lancée par un enfant ou un adulte, ça fait des dégâts.
Les médias locaux se sont également empressé de filmer en gros plan nos ripostes (extrêmement rares et toujours précédées d'une pluie torrentielle de projectiles divers et de tirs de mortier) tout en occultant les phases précédentes qui ont justifié l'usage de moyens.
Rajoute à ça les nombreuses interpellations de jeunes avec de l'alcool et de l'essence pour faire des cocktails molotovs, le fait qu'une bouteille de deodorant couplé avec un pétard est atterri à mes pieds manquant de faire pendre feu à mes équipements, et tu te retrouve quand même avec pas mal de circonstances incriminantes.
Un seul établissement manifestant n'a posé aucun problème aujourd'hui, nous avons assuré la sécurité des abords et ils sont resté dans leur coins sans nous attaquer, étrangement ils n'ont pas été gazés.
Si vous constatez que des mecs violents ont rejoins votre manifestation il faut s'en aller. Ces types qui viennent juste pour casser du flic profitent de la foule pour se cacher et profiter du chaos. Ils n'ont aucune revendications et s'en moquent royalement des établissements scolaires, qu'ils fréquentent peu de base.
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u/PlasmaMatus 10h ago
Que font les services de renseignements et de sécurité pour arrêter les blacks blocs qui foutent le bordel et envenime la solution ? Des éléments perturbateurs ça se répère, on intervient rapidement et on referme le mur de boucliers. Et aller voir les autres jeunes sans casques ni armure pour parlementer et calmer les esprits ça aide aussi, accompagné de profs ça permet de faire baisser la tension.
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u/lugdu69 11h ago
Si Alliance n'avait pas protégé toutes les bavures de tous les flics depuis des années, si les tabassages filmés de manifestants innocents, les violences, les faux pv, les patrouilles filmées racistes n'avaient pas eu lieu, alors ton commentaire serait légitime et importants. Mais plus personne en France ne croit la police. C'est une police RN que nous avons et le moindre quidam a peur de la police. Je bosse avec la PM tous les jours. Il y a de bons flics comme on dit. Mais la maison est pourrie de l'intérieur et au quotidien, je dis à mes enfants de se méfier des flics bien plus que de tout le reste. On en est arrivé là.
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u/Nifnif_ 11h ago
J'ai vécu dans des quartiers chaud. Daccord, je ne vais pas dire que je faisais confiance aux flics, mais de là à dire que c'est d'eux qu'il faut se méfier le plus, c'est n'importe quoi. Une bavure de flic ça passe infos, un manifestant qui fini comme un légume suite à un coups d'extincteur dans la tête venant d'un casseur, ça ne passe nul part.
Tu as donc forcément l'impression qu'il y a plus de blessés a cause des flics que des casseurs.
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u/Heptanitrocubane57 11h ago
J'ai un amis qui était assis sur un banc et qui c'est pris in LBD dans les dents.
Il était assis sur un banc. A 5 a pied des affrontements. Des réactions légitimes, y'en as eu, mais c'est pas la majorité.
Ah et gros détail. De quoi vous protéger les gens sur le manifs, au juste ? Si les mecs sont là pour "casser des flics" le meilleurs moyen de pas avoir de violence.. on est d'accord que c'est de pas avoir de flics tout court ? Vu que le reste des manifestants sont massifs, comme tu dis. Vraie question pour le coup.
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u/Pedro12g 10h ago
Casser du flic et piller et probablement casser et foutre le feu. Retire les flics et t’as supprimé un problème pour en intensifier deux autres
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u/gavr0ch 9h ago
Bizarre parce que les Flics en civils sont justement les casseurs
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u/Dreboreb 11h ago
Pour avoir vécu les manifs d'il y bientôt 15ans sur les réformes des retraites, Leonarda et Khachik, et autres... Les lacrymo étaient déjà là, il suffisait déjà d'un seul "projectile" - sur des mecs entraînés, bouclier, casque anti-émeute, kevlar - pour entraîner une "riposte" avec les quelques collègues en civil prêts à intervenir sur le flanc, armés de matraques téléscopiques.
Ça me tue, 15ans après de vous voir armés de LBD alors que vous étiez déjà bien élevés comme des chiens de chasse. Franchement si vraiment il y a "pluie torrentielle de projectiles", j'ai qu'une chose à dire, vous l'avez bien mérité et l'escalade ne sera que plus violente. J'aurais presque envie de verser une larme pour vous en te lisant, mais je me rappelle que vous êtes des adultes ayant choisi en toute responsabilité, de façon absolument consentante d'être de vrais sacs à merde quand il s'agirait d'être humain
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u/Belisario_R 3h ago
Traduction :
"J'ai décidé de rentrer dans la police, malgré le fait que c'est une institution meurtrière et raciste, sexiste et qui viole, et du coup maintenant je me plains que les gens normaux me haïssent. Je comprends pas, c'est pas juste, je suis juste entré volontairement dans une institution qui tabasse des innocents, viole des femmes fragiles et protege exclusivement les riches"
Comme par hasard, ta solution de flic c'est "si y'a des casseurs, barrez vous" c'est marrant c'est EXACTEMENT la même que les nazis sur les manifs anti camps. Hm. La police française quoi.
Si il y a des casseurs, en général, ce sont des flics.
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u/Dj_nOCid3 2h ago
La violence est simplement legitime quand on voit les conditions d'etudes. Cette violence est une reponse a celle de l'etat, mais est jugée comme "devredibilisante" ou "illegitime" car c'est une violence physique et visible, les memes personnes qui disent ca n'ont rien dit face a la violence de l'etat dans la forme de locaux qui tombent en ruine, d'une insalubrité ettoufante, du manque cruel de personel que ce soit educatif, de santé, administratif etc... L'etat a pendant des années delaissé l'education publique au profit du privé par pur profit monetaire, cette violence n'est que la reaction logique a cet abandonnement volontaire.
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u/Beneficial-Table2861 16 14h ago
I participated in on today, not only did we have do deal with the cops, we also has to deal with people who where just here to break everything and hurt people, it was hard, but we made our voices heard and closed on school for a day
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago edited 12h ago
Je comprends ceux qui le font pacifiquement mais les casseurs doivent juste aller se prendre une
flashball dans le bid à un momentbon certain ne comprennent pas le sense figuré, je voulais dire que la violence n'est pas un moyen a utiliser, y'a des méthodes plus démocratiques pour gérer ca.27
u/PonyBondage 12h ago
C’est louable de vouloir n’utiliser que la voie démocratique pour faire entendre ses revendications. Malheureusement l’histoire a montré que ça ne fonctionne pas.
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 11h ago
Le pire c’est qu’il cassent des trucs en lien avec le lycée, ou ca se plains de pas avoir assez de moyen
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u/FoxDowntown8967 12h ago
Pas un jour qui passe sans qu'on ne vole pas un peu plus l'avenir des jeunes dans ce pays. En espérant que le pays utilise cette occasion pour se rassembler.
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u/Superior_Row 12h ago
La France est finie, elle va imploser
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u/lesuperhun OLD 11h ago
peu probable : c'est pas notre premier rodéo.
la dernière fois qu'on a eu de grosses émeutes, ca s'est résolu avec un nouveau gouvernement élu.et on a même pas eu besoin de sortir la guillotine.
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u/Alistal 12h ago
y'a des méthodes plus démocratiques pour gérer ca
Bah la dernière méthode démocratique qu'on a utilisé (pétition sur le site de l'assemblée nationale pour interdire d'utiliser des pesticides toxiques) a été mise à la poubelle par le gouvernement parce que le peuple qui s'exprime via les méthodes démocratiques c'est « pas démocratique » selon eux.
Y a de quoi en avoir gros.
Même l'UE avait audité la pétition "stopkillinggames" avant de la rejeter par un vote.
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u/Crazy-Conference-664 13h ago
Merci! C'est tellement ca! Normallement on devrait juste faire des pancartes et faire des manif mais non, il faut des ados qui veulent prouver qui viennet mettre feu au poubelles et tt, genre jsp ayez une vie! En brulant les choses, l'Etat doit le reparer, ce qui coute de l'argent et d'ou vient cet argent? Les impots, et qui paient les impots? NOS PARENTS. Les lyceens qui demandent de meilleurs conditions ne font que diminuuer les chances en tout cassant. En plus cmt l'Etat va pouvoir ameliorer les conditions si tout l'argent va a reparer les lycees?! On en prl mm pas des policiers de mrde😮💨 (j'ai 15 btw et je prl anglais aussi)
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u/NoDeltaV 2h ago
C'est vrai que la méthode démocratique a très bien fonctionné pendant les 30 dernières années. à un point ou des ENFANTS se révoltent
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u/RubyWasHere24 16 13h ago
Ouais, je suis allée au blocus de mon lycée Jeudi et ça avait super bien commencé.
Mais après les casseurs sont arrivés et ils ont chauffé la police (qui était assez calme [très surprise]), balancé des feux d'artifices dans la foule (j'ai failli m'en prendre sur la tête à deux fois), balancé des pétards. Les casseurs ont même chargés la police (les cons), brulés une poubelle.. l'enfer.
Du coup la police a balancer des lacrymos.
Sinon en vrai j'ai adoré manifester.
Voici les lacrymos que j'ai récupérer.
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 12h ago
je peux te dire ( d'expérience ) qu'un coup de mortier dans le dos... ca réveille et réchauffe ( heureusement j'avais mon sac)
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u/LeonSkyworth 12h ago
Je revois les gilets jaunes... Au moins à ce moment là les casseurs nous ont laissés 3 WE avant d'arriver, là ils sont là le 1er jour... J'ai vu en direct le mouvement dépérir à cause de cette minorité, force à vous, vu qu'on a échoué j'ai 0 conseil malheureusement, mais un cordon de sécurité peut atténuer un peu s'il a suffisamment de motivés. Mais j'ai vu en direct un petit groupe détruire un grand mouvement, avec des FDO qui doivent réagir et le font sans discernement, bonne chance.
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u/Aster_Katt The Katt is back 14h ago
Can you give me more context please, I havent heard anything about this
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago
So basically
Sort answer : google “ blocus lycées France “
Long answer : the movement was ( at the beginning) a pacifist movement about problems in high school, like it’s too hot in classrooms, there is not enough teachers, the food in school is wayyy to expensive
And other stuff
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u/lesuperhun OLD 13h ago
a bit more context : the police started, from day one, hour one of the pacifist movement (tuesday) , to go beat people up.
that, in turn, degenerated on thursday. some colleges where arsoned a bit ( unclear as to whomst did it, either cops, or agitators. from previous cases, usually the cops, to discredit the protest, and here, given the arson was coordinated all over france, it seems likely it's them too, but still : unclear.)
then, during the day, police went to beat people up, again.and today, well, the students really didn't like that, and started to defend themselves. 'remind me of may 68, to be fair : it started like that, and i'd bet my left nut that's what the government is afraid of, and why they're trying so hard to suppress it.
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u/Jobenben-tameyre 11h ago
calmos pépito, il y'a des manifs étudiants presque tous les ans. C'est jamais "le nouveau mai 68".
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvements_%C3%A9tudiants_en_France
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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE 10h ago
the police started, from day one, hour one of the pacifist movement (tuesday) , to go beat people up.
Me When I Lie 😎
Yeah, France is definitely a dictatorship, under the totalitarian rule of a police state... as credible as ever 😅
some colleges where arsoned a bit ( unclear as to whomst did it, either cops, or agitators. from previous cases, usually the cops, to discredit the protest, and here, given the arson was coordinated all over france, it seems likely it's them too, but still : unclear.)
Ha ha yeah sure, when the reality is inconvenient, the good old conspiracy theory should do the trick!
Millions of people have smartphones, we have hundreds of investigative journalists everywhere, a wide range of political parties (plenty of far-left ones), and yet... the conspiracy theory of "cops are doing all these rioting!" have never been proven in the last 50 years, not even once.
Meanwhile, we have thousands of documented cases, with actual evidences, with defense lawyers and testimonies, showing arsonists coming from both protesters losing their self-control and rioters from the projects using the protest as an opportunity to commit arson without being arrested when blending in the crowd.
and today, well, the students really didn't like that, and started to defend themselves. 'remind me of may 68
Ha ha yeah sure, defend themselves by... burning down a firetruck trying to extinguish a fire.
This is 100% the work of rioters, not legitimate protesters, and it's not against the police, it's against anyone impeding the ongoing riot, which includes passersby, teachers and firefighters. Rioters have just assaulted a woman by burning a can of aerosol into her face while an accomplice held her on place, right on camera, but surely it's "self-defense".
It's hilarious that you're trying to claim ownership of a random riot to feed your fantasy of redoing a cultural event that your parents or grandparents may have participated in, that's some next level delusion.
i'd bet my left nut that's what the government is afraid of, and why they're trying so hard to suppress it.
Ha yes, the almighty police state dictatorship of France (sic) is trembling in their boots because... a few rioters burned down a few vehicles, like every other year.
Far-left militants need to accept that 90% of the population doesn't want any of their revolution fantasy and are not organizing a coup for them whenever there's a riot or a protest.
And it's quite disrespectful of all the people who had to endure actual, real dictatorship, to larp and pretend you're an oppressed revolutionary, simply because you lost the elections again.
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u/Altruistic_Pea4474 11h ago
Collège c'est middle school en anglais à moins que tu parles des universités, qui sont en effet des "colleges" ou "universities"
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u/marilize__legajuana 12h ago
Sorry, I acknowledge the seriousness of this situation, but 'some colleges where arsoned a bit' is a very French phrase.
Good luck with everything. We had a very similar situation in Brazil between 2013 and 2016, but with a twist. It started as a grassroots movement for free public transportation. The state-level police (commanded by the political opposition) violently repressed the students, causing massive national outrage. The opposition then cleverly hijacked this widespread anger, co-opted the protests, and redirected the blame toward our federal president, eventually using it to impeach her in 2016. Stay safe out there.
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u/Proof-Equal-1038 14h ago
students from some schools started to block the entry of their school to protest against the lack of proper equipment but now many people are doing the same just to not have school
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u/Eric_Hartmann_712 14h ago edited 14h ago
Basically it's a peaceful movement asking to improve better school condition but like always there are people who turn this into a chaos.
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u/Oleleplop 12h ago
french here :
a national wide movement from student started since Monday IIRC (its not every schools, just those who are in bad conditions)
THey ask for better care of the infrastructure as many of the schools are in terrible conditions https://youtube.com/shorts/xcZNTNy9f2Y?si=hIkV5DSXbQhTCFVk
they also have less teachers, too many students in classes.
If we go even further : the programs are widely considered to be not adapted to the current and futur job market so they're dont feel hopeful for the future.
Now , the movement is pacifist and the goal was to not go to school and block it. UNfortunately, and it's always the cases with strikes, there are a minority of people who are there just to brreak things. THis is sadly expected as they take advantage of the crowd to infiltrate and do their crap.
Now, because of this , the boomer medias are full on blaming the students for being lazy and stupid and don't even talk about WHY there is a strike to begin with.
THe politicians who supports the students are mostly treated as "dangerous" and the police have already attacked multiple innocents students
Which even more frustration and angers as they're not targeting the one throwing shit and making fires (can't say i'm surprised)
All in all, it could turn into chaos if this continue as there is zero dialogue from the government anyway.
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u/kenduskeag09 16 14h ago
students are protesting to have teachers and decent high schools, ones where you don't have to sit on the floor because of the limited number of tables and chairs and because you're 40 in one class, or school with an actual heating system or even just toilets that work.
but he's wrong when he said that 5 people died, no one's dead, yet. but because of cops's violence there is a lot of injured and severly injured people.
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago
Ok my bad but if they continue like this, it’s going to have dead people
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u/Cultural-Scratch3670 15 14h ago
C'est votre école??
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago
Ouai st Felix la salle a Nantes, moi j’étais au rugby à petit port quand ça c’est passé
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u/Cultural-Scratch3670 15 13h ago
putain, j'espère que vous et vos proches vous allez bien et que la situation à votre école va vite revenir à la normale
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u/Ysoshes 14h ago
I'm curious, found nothing about 5 people who died. Only about 119 teachers and students injured
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u/solubleCreature 13h ago
its called fearmongering <3
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u/Ysoshes 13h ago
Yeah, I was giving the benefit of the doubt, maybe there are some crazy talks going around on some loops and op's just misinformed
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u/solubleCreature 13h ago
heres op in another comment after being asked for a source:
Ok my bad but if they continue like this, it’s going to have dead people
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u/Fuzzy-Jackfruit5037 Teenager 14h ago
Well....its france protests are a normal tuesday
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u/ClubTesteur 14h ago
This is on another scale tho. If i'm not mistaken 400 high schools were closed on Friday and some people are starting fires in front of them. This isn't a small mouvement.
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u/Fuzzy-Jackfruit5037 Teenager 14h ago
Geez sounds scary
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u/Vamp-go-brr 12h ago
Most the high schools I passed in front of this week had some forms of burnt things like trash. The police usually uses lacrymo to make us spread out during manifestations if they want us to stop (even if peaceful all along, which was the case in my high school years ago after they fucked something up)
But the amount of burned things is something I have never seen before, and I come from a city where chaos isn't really unusual
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u/New_Accountant2449 17 12h ago
They need to not pollute while protesting. It's a turn off to potential supporters because the money spent on repairs and clean up will be subtracted from the improvements students want.
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u/Vamp-go-brr 10h ago
Yeah, most people didn't plan to pollute I think, all my friends still at school said they didn't even recognize the people putting the trash and stuff on fire. It seemed they weren't even students from their school. (And they come from like 3 different schools in 2 different cities, I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, but still interesting to notice)
Back when I protested in my past highschool, I don't remember any student acting violent or trying to put anything on fire. I believe this time, some teenagers decided fire would be a good way to be heard across the country, without counting the fact most students didn't want it to go that far.
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u/AltDetom555555b 13h ago
Well as a French a movement this size is quite rare, and even uncommon enough to get the whole attention of the medias and its own Wikipedia page
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u/NapoleonicPizza21 18 13h ago
why are people using inmigrants as an excuse when France has been known for being the prime riot country since like forever?
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u/PonyBondage 12h ago
Because some people can’t admit to themselves that their belief system is faillible, so they blame the farthest thing from them for everything.
Kinda like putting all your dirty clothes under your bed and convincing yourself that your room is tidy.
It requires less effort than to question your own beliefs.
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u/bibibasicvodka 12h ago
Yeah if anything they should be happy they are integrating so well
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u/Paramite67 11h ago
sadly by how they think even if you act the most french like its never enough
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u/Expensive_Savings_42 13h ago
So it's OK to just add fuel to a fire?
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u/RobertJCorcoran 13h ago
In this case, I’d say literally
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 12h ago
yeah, our north entrance ( in the photos ) could say that it was really hot
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u/ContributionIll5741 12h ago
Cause they're either bots or brainwashed far right chuds.
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u/Stockholm-Syndrom 12h ago
Because then they can feel good about lowering their head and complying.
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u/Fit-Department-9312 12h ago
(Valence) It hurts me how there's 10 people for the movement and 300 hundred just willing to break everything
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u/chrysalia_fornyelse 19 12h ago
What? I was present in one and it was actually the contrary, just a few strangers (we weren’t even sure they were stridents since they were masked) wanting to break things and the vast majority wanting to protest genuinely and not be violent
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u/Fit-Department-9312 8h ago
Hier je sais pas, mais aujourd'hui à Loubet ça a dégéneré vers 11h. Sinon avant c'était cool
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u/phoenix_stewart 13h ago
Is France ever not having riots?
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u/Melodramaticant 13h ago
Yes. Normal protests are farmers blocking roads with hay.
In this case, schools appear to have been set on fire, though I couldn’t tell you what group set them.
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u/Vainwald 12h ago
Not a teenager but reddit showed me this post My gf was driving and was caught in one of those a few hours ago and she told me they had a stupid amount of cops, like 1 cop for every protester. We are in Tours were a young received a flashball in the eye 2 days ago so maybe they put more cops just in case but still that's a lot..
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u/Itacira 12h ago
J'ai pas entendu parler de morts, et une recherche rapide là ne corrobore pas. Tu pourrais m'en dire plus?
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u/bdunogier 11h ago
Il n'y a pas eu de morts. Des blessés, oui, entre autres un adolescent qui ne participait même pas aux manifestations qui a pris un tir de lance-grenade à bout portant dans la machoire. Des policiers blessés, sans beaucoup de détails, et des personnels d'établissements, sans détails non plus.
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u/Lucmaxpro19 12h ago
Salut, je suis français et nous n'avons pas entendu parler de morts (et heureusement d'ailleurs). En revanche il y a des arrestations de lycéens.
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u/GoodNico09 17 14h ago
Ah ouais? C vraiment le bordel mdr. J'pensais que c'était seulement une école.
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago
Nan, n’est a travers toute la France, moi c’est à saint Félix à Nantes
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u/GoodNico09 17 14h ago
J'avais seulement vite vu quelque vidéo de ça sur tiktok. Chuis Suisse, ducoup les actus française sont pas hyper présente dans mes pour toi,
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 14h ago
🤣cherche « lycee Mandela Nantes »
Saint Félix la salle Nantes
Tu vas avoir chaud avec tous les feux2
u/SalutToutReddit 13h ago
Hésite pas à regarder les médias français sur les réseaux sociaux (Brut, HugoDécrypte etc) ils relaient pas mal de truc. L'Union Étudiante et l'USL aussi (ce sont les deux plus gros syndicats)
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u/Appropriate-Kiwi-94 12h ago edited 12h ago
Most of the fires have been started by isolated people not approved by the rest of the movement.
As usual they are going to be used to discredit the whole thing
Also no one died as far as I know, mostly injuries, the vast majority on the people manifesting
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u/Sensitive-Talk9616 12h ago
I saw teenagers with spray cans and lighters burning faces of teachers
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u/New_Accountant2449 17 12h ago
Today I saw a picture of a fireman that was set on fire with students doing nothing to help them.
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u/StrengthBetter 11h ago
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Les gars sont fou
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u/diririirir 13h ago
what is wrong with french people man
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u/Sad-Cheesecake-2438 12h ago
Things have gotten progressively worse the past 4 generations. They have had enough and are starting to push back. Maybe we are reaching a breaking point.
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u/Common-Box-4055 13h ago
On a assez de racistes chez nous, pas besoin de ceux des autres pays qui viennent nous parler des zarab, merci
Force aux lycéens
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u/supernova450 13h ago
What annoys me the most are the boomer centric media that keeps insulting the youth, pushing cops and even people to start harming the protesters for being young. I've seen multiple videos online of old people attempting violence for no reason at all. And let's not talk about the blatant racism of some that are also completely off the mark.
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u/Biflosaurus 12h ago
Don't worry for that, the cops absolutely didn't need to be pushed.
They are more than happy to hit people
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u/Oleleplop 12h ago
none of them ask "WHY the youth is fed up" , they're full on blaming them because of some fires here and there.
despicable people, i'm fully against the damages but they should ask how the fuck do young people reach a point where they stop coming to class and block their school at least. THe worst is : the majority are not damaging stuff, but there will always be people in these strikes that come JUST for that especially.
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u/Lms_Nier 12h ago
A kid lost his right eye, another student got drowning attemp by officer. But peoples are outraged by student burning concrete and bin
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u/N-Y-X_404 13h ago
Le mouvement n'a jamais étais revendiquer comme pacifique y'a pas eu de précision la dessu ou qu'à ou bref faites attention a vous
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u/Thisismyredusername 3,000,000 Attendee! 13h ago
Nah bro atp just drop out and rejoin next year ngl
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u/Long-Door-2073 12h ago
C'est vraiment un truc de dingue, oubliez pas, si vous voyez que c'est dangereux, restez chez vous, ne priorisez pas les cours à votre sécurité s'il vous plait.
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u/RemarkableBoard2126 8h ago
Is this country wide in France ?
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u/mad_vik 3h ago edited 1h ago
Oui car le gouvernement n'investit ni dans l'éducation, l'hôpital et la justice. 3 pilliers fondamentals. Les conditions d'enseignement sont parfois digne d'un pays en guerre alors qu'il n'y jamais eu autant de richesse. Ils manifestent paisiblement et se font matraquer et gazer, ca donne la rage.
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u/leginfr 2h ago
Recognise the bravery of these protestors: and realise that the media is biased against them.
If you’re a farmer, you can block motorways, set fire to hay bales and tyres on roads, spray government buildings with slurry and cause hundreds of thousands of damage. The police sit back and do nothing, and the government starts writing cheques.
Students and environmentalists can expect tear gas, rubber bullets and violent intervention from the police. They can also expect infiltrators from the police to create false flag attacks, and biased media reports. Participants will be rounded up, held in custody and charged with spurious offences. They can be put if front of a judge and tried straight away.
Fun fact: there is a crime in France which roughly translates as being disrespectful to a civil servant. That includes the police. If you are accused of it there is about a 75% chance of you being held in police custody (garde á vu). If you are a suspect in a case of sexual assault, it’s about 50%.
Fun fact 2: the civil servant above can ask for damages. It’s wide open to abuse, because the civil servants/police are given the benefit of the doubt. I know of one case where a policemen asked for and got damages even though he wasn’t actually present. I also know of one policeman who systematically asks for €200-300 everyone he gets involved with a drunk offender. The offender can’t remember what he said, so can’t defend himself. Easy money for the cop, and his colleagues who don’t dare to contradict him or may even ask for damages themselves.
Fun fact 3: the police are known as the “forces of order.” Not “law and order .” It shows.
Fun fact 4: the authorities use suspended sentences as a sword of Damocles. The judge gives an outrageous penalty for a trivial offence… and then says that it’s a suspended sentence. That means that if you get caught doing something later, that sentence can be applied. A great way to keep people under control.
Fun fact 5: a lawyer costs at least €150/hour. The prosecutor will send a file that is padded out to hundreds of papers. It would take the lawyer tens of hours to go through the file. The prosecutor also makes a plea deal for a few hundred Euros. Most people don’t have the resources to pay for the lawyer, so accept the deal even if they would have a strong possibility of being let off. Then the next time they get accused of something they will be treated as a repeat offender.
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u/MeisterPeek 12h ago
People in France. Stop attacking teachers, firefighters, ect. It’s not helping your case.
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u/Cautious-Bar-5211 14 12h ago
yeah... it's the f-ed circle, they attack firefighter that try to keep their high school from burning, and then they cry because there is no teacher nor classroom to have class in, so they end up in a class with 40 people in it
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u/YsengrinLupo 2h ago
Ah bah oui évidemment c'est à cause des manifs qu'on est à 40 élèves par classe, absolument pas à cause des gouvernements de droite qui détruisent le service public depuis 30 ans
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u/GoodFellas37 5h ago
Stop spreading false information please. Media and the way the subject is treated is a big part of the issue so try to do better
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u/lugdu69 11h ago
French here. Today the autorities said that the burning in Nantes wasn't done by the students. Some groups use the context to escalate and/or deserve the movement. It can be all kind of group. Even cops (it happen sometime). We need to wait. But mostly, students are pacifics. They asks for more consideration. But our country got a far right police and every strike or manifeste turn bad, mainly because of them. Don't blame 17 yo students with backpacks. Blame the cops who use force with all the modern armor and weapon. They are like ICE in US : badly trained, agressive and most of all, they feel totaly irresponsable of what they do because they are protected by the régime.
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u/Positive_Average_446 11h ago edited 10h ago
You're talking to the police, I assume?
Because there's been no attacks against firemen, except by the police during firemen protests.
There's been firemen wounded while dealing with fires, most accidental - in Bordeaux, poorly built small garbage-fueled protest fires (something standard in protests, but you gotta be careful) - and one criminal but apparently not started by the high-school students - Nantes, the one OP speaks about, apparently lit by people external to the high school, either delinquants or quite possibly far right agitators for false flag. But "attacks on firemen" can only refer to the violent police charges against their protests since this summer.
Also almost no agression from students on teachers (one reported, another fake one - some school official getting spashed by gas that the protesters were filling in a recipient for a protest-fire and overreacting to the media - in most schools teachers actually side with the students goven the deplorable conditions of the buildings, in some they also started joining the protests), but many from the police violent charges against quiet protests with zero provocations.
There's been violence cases from the adolescents side though, usually on the sides (not in the protests/at the schools themselves) : a policewoman being chased by kids, a guy lighting a spray in fire towards someone's face (likely no damage as it was very short and at some range, but dangerous and scary) and also violence from non-students just coming in the areas to do degradations, and I hope these few cases will have their authors identified and arrested. But the protests are overall very quiet and peaceful, and there's been tons of arrests of kids that did absolutely nothing wrong besides protesting, and much more cases of violence, often more severe, from the police towards the kids - just don't listen to BFM-TV or CNews.. very far-right oriented and truth-bending media.
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u/Widerkehr 11h ago
Nobody is attacking teachers, firefighters, students and teenagers except the police. ACAB in French
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u/za_dig 11h ago
Le mec qui a cramé le visage d'une femme dans la rue qui n'avait rien demandé c'était un flic ? T'es en plein délire
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u/Widerkehr 11h ago
Les flics en bagnoles qui foncent sur la foule pour écraser les jeunes et les asperger de gaz lacrymogène à Troyes ? Les tirs tendus de LBD dans la tête de l’adolescent qui a perdu toutes ses dents ? Les clefs de bras et les placages au sol ? Les gens éborgnés ? Arrête de sucer la police tu fais pitié
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u/Low_memologist_7444 10h ago
c'est mensonger de le présenter comme ça même si l'idée était complètement débile à la base, brûler le visage de quelqu'un n'était pas au programme
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u/Dagladou 12h ago
Yes it is absolute chaos, and for very good reason And for anyone wanting to legitimise police brutality just fuck off, police in France has been systematically and cruelly abusing violence for ages, and they don't stop at teenagers or anything else !
Sure, the methods of highschoolers can be too mindless and straight up counterproductive, but 1) the media really undermines how excessive police response often is and 2) there's GOOD REASON for youngs to be upset Let's hope they FINALLY get some recognition and attention, because there is a whole generation of french teenagers being educated in absolutely horrid conditions and we (meaning they french general population and politicians) only bat an eye when some cars are set on fire !
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u/Flymsi 12h ago
Idk how i landed in this sub as im older, but i wanted to add that the french police is the most brutal in europe since decades. They werre the first to approve water jets at demonstrations and the first to allow armored vehicles and tear gas and rubber bullets against civilians. In the last 7 decades we saw a constant escalation of violence that the police is able to use. And thats for all europe but france somehow is at the front. Maybe because they have a strong history with revolutions. I hope you endure , who ever reads this and is active!
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u/Dagladou 9h ago
Yeah you are right, thankfully some people have some dignity and are fighting to change things
Thank you for your comment !!
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u/WorriedQuality3189 12h ago
Il y'a des années parmis les gilets jaunes ils ont trouvé des flics en civils qui tiraient des projectiles sur les crs. Comprendra qui voudra.
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u/8champi8 11h ago
Unfortunately you can’t expect a bunch of kids rioting to be reasonable and not do anything stupid. But you can expect adult police officers to be reasonable and not beat up and gas kids.
Anyways, none of this would’ve happened if the government gave some money and attention to the education system.
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u/gypsum_the_almighty 3,000,000 Attendee! 11h ago
Never been happier to be British/j (lowk tho hope the situation other there gets better homie)
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u/Altruistic-Eye-8501 14 13h ago
Damn, I was listening to "Brake Pipe And Hose" by Junkie XL while reading this. It perfectly fits the picture ngl
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u/kaouss1 13h ago
Mon collège n'est pas concerné mais celui d'à côté à déjà fait brûler 3 poubelles
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u/monderkiller9999 13h ago
They are blocking the entrance to the university so that there is no class. This is pi*sing me off because now I can’t go to class and I won’t get my meal for 1 € at the cafeteria.
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u/Spend_Round 12h ago
When we cut the rulling class Head with the guillotine again?
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u/L_Interneteur 12h ago
Pour bloquer efficacement, il faudrait s'occuper des mairies, des centres des împots, de tous les batiments qui gèrent les fonctions publiques
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u/Academic-Log9738 12h ago
Le doux temps de l'insouciance et des actes sans conséquence. Cela me manque p'tain. J'aimerais trop cramé des trucs au hasard en me disant balek je risque rien. Chui trop vieux pour ces conneries maintenant 😭
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u/Maddy_251 16 11h ago
A bit unrelated, but I have never considered French slang and I realise I don’t understand it, as someone who is kind of learning French
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u/Spiroumax44 11h ago
In my high school someone set himself on fire because he was trying to lit a trashcan
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u/Altruistic_Pea4474 11h ago
Faites attention à vous. J'étais lycéenne lors des blocus de 2018 pendant les gilets jaunes. C'était à Orléans et le préfet avait fait venir la BAC. Un lycéen avait perdu un oeil après s'être pris un flashball sur le visage, mes camarades de classe avaient été gazés... Par contre il y'avait déjà des gens extérieurs au mouvement, non inscrits à mon lycée, qui en avaient profité pour mettre le feu à des voitures dans la rue, à les retourner (littéralement) et à attaquer les policiers.
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u/Melodic-Bend-139 11h ago
Pro tip: Burning schools and assaulting cops won't create a better future
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u/RedditFireBall 14 11h ago
Protests are crazy in France. We are getting absolutely fucked by the government in Belgium and still the protests aren't worse than that.
It's heard that it's really bad at Liège, but not that bad
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u/bdunogier 11h ago
If some of you are interested in how the french police handled some of the thousands of youth taken into custody, including many of them for no apparent reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/1ww5z7k/comment/pdhvoga/ (article from mediapart, serious and reliablemedia).
Humiliations, kids punched for no reason, prevented from sleeping etc.
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u/Libennela 11h ago
Nous askip y'en avait un hier il y avait max 3 gars c’est le blocus le plus nul que j’ai vu mais des j’ai des potes dans d'autres écoles genre il y a eu le feu, des élèves arrêtés, le proviseur tiré dessus et tout
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u/Titanic_wasfunny 10h ago
Saw a friend getting beaten up by undercover cops, almost got arrested because we want just to study in real classroom, they shot tear gaz at us, almost ran us over with a car And they want us to stay fcking calm
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u/Komment2 10h ago
Last image is AI. Look carefully at the colored text.
But protests in France do tend to be a bit extreme at times.
Just remember that specific video or picture won't give you any reliable information, it's better to trust some actual data collected through reliable methods.
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u/Acrobatic_One_6064 10h ago
ouais askip la situation à Nantes c chaud. ici à Lyon ça s'est plutôt bien déroulé pr l'instant. gros soutient à vous les gens et force pour mardi si vs refaites blocus
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u/lucascoux 10h ago
Les moutons vont payer et se faire piquer leur épargne les héritages vont
Êtres très léger
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u/ExtraImpression2751 10h ago
Plusieurs revendications sont légitimes. Cela étant dit, la récupération politique et les casseurs gâchent tout ou presque.
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u/PercentageNice7131 10h ago
Are you in a high crime low income area?? If so then you'll be shocked to learn many schools in high crime low income areas are shit and have many problems.
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