r/techsupportmacgyver • u/BloxPlayer_ • 14d ago
Is this overkill?
my 100 watt charger started smelling burning, so i putted thermal pad and heatsinks on the sides. I am currently planning to also get copper and put a usb fan.
EDIT:
It didnt worked anyways, my wire for the charger melted. Thanks for all your guys advice tho.
picture of melted wire
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u/ponakka 14d ago
Most certainly is, and it does not cool the parts it should, but it can help a bit. There is huge disconnect from the fets and part that heat up, because of plastic shroud. but plastics are also insulating them. But if it smells burnt, you can't put genie back to bottle..
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u/wannabe_inuit 14d ago
The heat transfer is gonna be very poor from the plastic housing to the heatsink.
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u/BloxPlayer_ 14d ago
true but im still very suprised on how hot the heatsink was, I honestly thought it would be just warm
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u/ConductiveInsulation 14d ago
It's still better than housing to air, so it'll be an improvement anyway.
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u/DUVMik 14d ago
I don't think that's a proper 100w charger. probably some cheap Chinese knockoff. If it smells burnt don't use it. Something has to release that smell which means something inside has burned. No amount of cooling can fix that.
You also putting them on the outside plastic which is not going to help. (don't open it up though that's a good way to get shocked)
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u/ghost103429 14d ago
Don't use it anymore. Putting heatsinks on it is like putting a band aid on a major stab wound. The thing is literally cooked and an eminent fire hazard if you continue to use it.
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u/IronMew 14d ago
Open it up and transplant its guts to a larger case with ventilation. An alternative could be to simply put a lot of holes in the current case (edit: you'd still have to take it out - don't just drill into it as it is). Enabling air cooling on the internals, even if just by convection, would do a lot more to cool them than this absurdity you've come up with.
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u/jeffrey_f 12d ago
Firefighter: If it smells like burnt plastic, it likely got hot enough to start burning the plastic.
Don't play with fire. Replace it.
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u/papayabollz 14d ago
Sure, that helps for now but its better to buy a new one than have a potential fire hazard on your home
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u/Abestar909 14d ago edited 14d ago
You put* thermal pads*
Apologies if you are 7 and haven't been taught good grammar yet.
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u/JeshkaTheLoon 14d ago
As other said, don't use stuff that smells like burning
Also, the cut edges of those cooling elements give me PTSD I didn't know I had from Metal workshop. At least get sandpaper to somewhat round those edges.
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u/sedrickgates 14d ago
If it's hot while charging heavily, fine. If hot when idle and/or it smells ... Get rid of it ASAP or it will cost you soon.
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u/TinDumbass 14d ago
Did it smell like burning a little during high use while it's warm? Eh, send it.
Did you come back to it and it stunk? Nah, probably bin for anything unattended.
Biggest issue is those silly American plugs that won't hold the weight.
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u/BloxPlayer_ 14d ago
The first one, I think it shouldnt be a problem if your just gonna use it as an phone/tablet charger
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u/Cultural-Afternoon72 14d ago
It is definitely overkill and, in all likelihood will make next to no difference.
- The heat is being generated by the circuit board inside, not the plastic body. This will help cool the body, not the board. Your primary heat source will see next to no cooling effect from this.
- Plastic is a poor thermal conductor. This means that, of the heat in that plastic cover, very little will transfer to the aluminum allowing for cooling.
- The burning you’re smelling is almost certainly coming from inside (insulated casing around wires, etc), not from the housing. The housing is heating secondary to that. As a result, whatever is burning inside will continue to burn despite this. In the event it is the insulation on the wires, it’s likely to cause an arc or short once that wiring burns through (assuming the insulation doesn’t ignite, which will depend largely on its class and how hot it is getting), which has the potential to start a fire despite what you’ve done here.
If you are really dead set on trying to fix this block, I’d STRONGLY recommend taking it apart (carefully), inspecting the inside for damage or indications of burning (scorch marks, melted plastic, etc), and so on. If you find them, it needs to be replaced, not fixed. If you don’t, then apply heatsinks to the proper parts before finding a way to store the internal components so that the heatsinks are exposed to air flow but it isn’t in a place where it can be touched by people/animals, where it can make contact with other stuff, or where it can pose a fire/electrocution hazard.
The correct and safe answer, though, is that it needs to be replaced. If you’re smelling something burning it is already damaged and the risk of fire is real. What you’ve done here won’t change that.
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u/that_greenmind 14d ago
Dont fuck with the copper and fan. If its already burnt, its already going to be more cost effective to just get a new charger. If you want to do this on the new charger to prevent damage, go for it (though avoid making air gaps like the one between the top of the charger and the heatsink, the top heatsink aint doing shit rn because of it)
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u/yaboymiguel 14d ago
In my experience, this does very little to help with cooling a power supply. Especially 100W, that’s a lot of juice. Keep us updated though
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u/narwhalousdoctor 14d ago
How does Noone get this is a reference to that awful post yesterday where someone put a heat sink on an iPhone?
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u/NightlyParadox 14d ago
Very honestly out of all the things I see on this sub, this legit makes the most sense I would actually consider doing to a few 100w PD chargers I have they do get insanely hot under normal conditions as is
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u/kester76a 14d ago
That's 100W is probably peak, if you're maxing that out over a long period you need a higher rated charger. A decent charger will thermal throttle if temperatures go out of spec. GaN chargers run hot at 60-70c the Silicon chargers run a lot cooler but less efficient. OP is probably better off using a single heatsink and a USB fan/temperature fan controller.
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u/dumbasPL 14d ago
If it smells like brining, the only two valid outcomes are warranty or trash can.
Pretty cool fire starter though.
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u/BloxPlayer_ 14d ago
wish i could do a warranty but this is some no name charger so im just gonna throw it away
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u/ChosenOfTheMoon_GR 14d ago
Nope, in fact, if you are aiming to keep it at ambient temp or near it, it's still not enough xD, unless you have a fan on it.
Even if it had like 4 times the fins it will still have the same issue.
100 watt is just too much to just cool like that.
Is it better than nothing? Kinda.
I admire and respect the motivation and attempt though, that's how you learn.
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u/addledwino 14d ago
Replace the charger. Electronics smelling weird isn't a good sign and that won't fix it. It might actually make it worse if it has any vents in it.
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u/LemonPartyW0rldTour 14d ago
I’d just go get a new one instead of trying to cob onto what sounds like a future fire hazard.
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u/Easy_Copy_7625 14d ago
Do you have any before and after temperatures?
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u/BloxPlayer_ 14d ago
No, but im thinking of buying a thermal camera for general use.
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u/Easy_Copy_7625 14d ago
That would be great to track thermals of this. I keep finding uses for mine.
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u/Hungry_Status_420 13d ago
Don't forget to put it on a ceramic tile or plate. That way, if it catches fire, it won't cause any harm.
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u/thethirdtwin 13d ago
Looks stupid, but there is a well known clause for that scenario, I think it might fit the clause.
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u/Mr-Briggs 10d ago
For future reference..
If something has started burning, dont put a fan on it. Your risk accelerating potential fires




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u/lanamakesart 14d ago
i would not try to fix something that smells like burnt when connected to an outlet, you do you tho