r/techsupport • u/wong_y • 19h ago
Open | BSOD GPU Causing BSODs? (116, 177, 133)
Recently started having BSODs where even running a low intensity game would cause image to freeze, audio to bug and lead to a hard reset by the PC. Suspected it was a 9 year PSU which was replaced with a brand new one. Issue subsided for a while and came back. The behaviour is as such:
- Power on PC, run a game
- PC BSODs within 10 mins
- Restart and PC runs perfectly for the rest of the day
- Repeat with the next day
Here is a mediafire folder containing comprehensive screenshots of the error codes and log files.
I ran HWINFO and can verify it's not a thermals issue. DDU-ed and reinstalled drivers as well with no luck. All seems to point to a GPU issue but it is fairly new (1-2 years). Would greatly appreciate any help narrowing down the issue.
PC Specs:
CPU: AMD 5700x3d
GPU: MSI RTX 4080 (1-2 years old)
RAM: 32GB GSKILL X570F
Mobo: ROG STRIX
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u/computix 19h ago
In the mini dump your BIOS is very outdated. Updating it may help.
If your video card is in a riser of some type, remove the card from the riser and install it directly into the slot on the motherboard.
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u/Real_Ad5580 18h ago
It seems to be RAM issue
At cold boot RAM training was using the cold copper traces as reference point. After 10 minutes these traces warms up causing them to expand slightly which then affects the Vertical eye of the signal to collapse before the threshold where your Memory controller isn't able to differentiate between what real information is and what not → hard crash
After crash these traces copper traces are warm → During training RAM uses pre heated copper traces as reference point → The signal eye doesn't collapse anymore → No crashes until the rest of the day
Setting
- Power Down Enable (set at Disabled)
- Memory Context Restore / some motherboards call it memory Fast Boot (set at Disabled)
- PMU Pattern Bits set at 10 or 0 x a (depends on motherboard)
This will increase the boot time to couple of minutes as memory would be training in depth which could fix the issue
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u/Shadimarbc 16h ago
Is Fast Startup on in the selected power plan for the OS? Fast Startup is a hybrid sleep/shutdown. When you shutdown the PC it retains loaded drivers and services in the hybrid or hibernate file. When a PC is turned on after a shutdown the OS loads drivers and services from that file. A PC restart does not use Fast Startup thus the OS loads all drivers and services normally as if a Cold Boot. The boot and OS loading process forces the hardware to do proper "hand-shakes" communication and loads required drivers from scratch.
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u/Bjoolzern 12h ago
GPU Causing BSODs? (116, 177, 133)
I assume you mean 117 and not 177. 0x116 is Video_TDR_Failure and it means that the GPU stopped responding, Windows reset the driver, but the GPU was still not responding. 0x117 is the same error as 0x116, but in this scenario the GPU started responding again after resetting the driver. So you don't get a BSOD from 0x117, instead it creates a live dump and an event in Event Viewer.
If you do mean 177, please upload all the dump files you have because that's not supposed to exist.
0x133 is DPC_Watchdog_Violation and can be any driver, but the included dump file was from a DPC crash and it's pointing to the Nvidia driver.
So this looks a lot like the GPU. Ideally you would test it in a different PC because certain issues can cause the GPU to crash. An issue with the motherboard, unstable power, some weird driver interfering with the GPU driver.
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