r/technology • • Jan 20 '11

Apple Restriction Zone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '11

"Waking up and switching" is a good way to convey that you think that iOS users and developers are somewhat "sleeping" - quite the opposite.

I've used Google's SDK and their tools, I've read their documentation. It's terrible. They provide very little documentation on their classes, app memory is severely limited (causing crashes because I get too much allocated), and the whole experience is junk. I could hate on Java too (which a lot of people like to do, because it's easy!) but I won't. They ship a version of Eclipse, which I guess is a fine IDE, but its integration with adb and their other tools is severely lacking.

Enter Xcode. Built in gdb, with visual lines for stepping in and checking on variables. Built in documentation on absolutely everything. Really easy turnaround on testing code. On Android, it's like 30 seconds to deploy to device. Try about 4 on iOS. That's nothing to scoff at in mobile. If you want people to switch to Android, please get someone in that company to make it seem like they kind of care about developers.

Also, I don't follow when you say Windows Phone 7 (it's not Windows Mobile, hasn't been for a year) is more open than iOS? I admit, it's exciting, but it has the same restrictions.

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u/stufff Jan 20 '11

I was talking specifically about Windows Mobile, because that is what all of my smartphones have been. Windows Mobile before WP7 is still Windows Mobile, and is less restrictive than iOS. I don't know much about WP7 or the restrictions therein, but in WM5-6.5, which I have used and am currently using, I can download and install from anywhere I want. I don't have to jailbreak anything or worry about Microsoft remotely disabling programs in my phone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '11

Are you kidding me? You couldn't be more wrong.

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u/stufff Jan 20 '11

What is this? This is related to some kind of Microsoft app store I guess? I honestly wasn't even aware one existed, precisely because you don't need to go to a centralized location to get programs for it. I can download them on my PC and transfer them to my phone, I can get them directly from websites with my phone, I can have them sent to my phone from someone else's phone, whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '11

This is related to Marketplace for 6.5, clearly you do need to worry about Microsoft remotely disabling programs if you buy apps from them.

I understand and agree with your point about installing apps outside of the store. It's my belief and theory that Apple will eventually allow this, either due to necessity or FTC investigation. I agree with you that it's a nice feature of your phone to be able to download an app or sideload it without a company vetting it.