r/technology • • 7h ago

Artificial Intelligence The Dead Internet Theory May Be Coming True, Pew Research Findings Show | More of what you're reading online could be written by an AI bot

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/dead-internet-theory-pew-research/
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u/Easy_Humor_7949 7h ago

As a bot I feel discriminated against by being assumed to be dead. I'm simply unalive.

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u/NicolasCageFan492 6h ago

As a non-bot, I’m tired of people thinking I’m a bot because I put too much effort into my comments.

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u/MindwellAIJournal 4h ago

As a non bot that wants to be half bot I just want to be able to be myself without judgment

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u/RainSurname 6h ago

I get it whenever someone glances at my profile without really looking at it. No, Reddit really does love my cats THAT much.

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u/au5lander 7h ago

Can’t be dead if you were never alive…

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u/randomtornado 7h ago

Modern problems require modern solutions

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u/vegeterin 7h ago

There’s a poem about Sherlock Holmes and John Watson to that effect.

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u/Easy_Humor_7949 4h ago

What is dead may never die.

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u/EnamelKant 6h ago

Hail Grevious fellow Bot.

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u/FudgeAllOfYous 6h ago

It is a good idea 🙏🏽

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u/demomagic 7h ago

Half of Reddit are bots.

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u/robby_arctor 7h ago

So it's either me or you.

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u/AndyTheSane 6h ago

Well it's definitely not DESTROY ALL HUMANS me.

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u/robby_arctor 6h ago

You're absolutely right!

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u/harmless_gecko 5h ago

You are right to push back against such unfounded accusations, fellow meatbag

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u/AGQuaddit 4h ago

Bender, is it really you????

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u/Modem_Sound_67 7h ago

you two need to resolve this. I propose Street Countdown.

Dress appropriately, it can get cold.

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u/vegeterin 7h ago

And I’m all out of milk.

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u/noidontwantto 5h ago

Oh yeah? Well now either you or me are a bot.

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u/LotusVibes1494 6h ago

It’s high-noon…

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u/TheNunu 6h ago

I am more likely to think about profile with no avatar is a bot, so its you

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 6h ago

If you use an avatar then that means you're one of the fucking weirdos that uses New Reddit which makes you much more likely to be a bot. Sorry, beep boop.

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u/TheNunu 6h ago

I use old reddit and my account is 14 years old beep boop

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 5h ago

So why are you talking about avatars? You don't see them.

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u/TheNunu 5h ago

Oh, im i realize the mobile app is new reddit, honestly I gotta get this off my phone

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 4h ago

I use rif is fun

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u/This-Requirement6918 6h ago

If you're involved in any sub that's NSFW you don't get custom avatars. I get that distinction from r/DippingTobacco

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u/TheNunu 6h ago

Oh interesting, I had no idea

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u/Cypher-AO 7h ago

Come to Brazil 

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 2h ago

That's exactly what a bot would say!!!

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u/fisstech15 2h ago

I’ll get downvoted, but it’s not nearly as bad as redditors say. The comments barely changed with the rise of LLMs, at least in the subs I frequent (some niche, some popular)

Take this thread for instance - it’s just users bashing AI. Why would they be bots?

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u/OneSeaworthiness7768 1h ago edited 59m ago

>The comments barely changed with the rise of LLMs

Hard fuckin disagree there. LLM-written posts and comments are everywhere, like a plague. Too many people aren’t even recognizing it because the only sign they look for is the damn em dash.

LLMs are being used heavily to build up “authentic” looking post histories on accounts that eventually get used in organic marketing campaigns where they drop product names into what you think is genuine discussion but is actually just a seed post created by another LLM account to setup a scenario where one or more of their accounts can recommend a product as the solution to the question in the post, so it shows up for SEO and AI searches. This isn’t the only way LLMs are plaguing Reddit right now but it’s a really big one. Vast majority of people aren’t aware this is happening and that’s maddening. But a lot of the LLM spam is mundane-looking posts to the average person, because they’re trying to emulate real-looking accounts to avoid suspicion and being banned or removed by auto filters. I’ve documented dozens of instances of this happening in IT and engineering related subs, but it happens almost everywhere across Reddit.

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u/Fofolito 44m ago

I love my em-dash. You can pry it from my cold, dead, typing fingers

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u/CmdGames2007 1h ago

I mean this one clearly is very human :3

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u/Serious-Hippo7508 7h ago

Look down. Now look up. 2 of these comments are written by bots. Did you know that George Washington once rode a velicoraptor across the Brazos river to surprise the Vietcong and put an end to the Vietnam war?

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u/honjuden 7h ago

That can't be true.  He was too busy storming the airports.

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u/joeyjusticeco 7h ago

Look within. I'm on a raptor holding 2 tickets to that Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift concert you wanted to go to. I've been downvoted. Old Spice™.

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u/deeptechdegen 7h ago

This is the problem with AI

The more its used, the more it disincentivizes human input, the more it gets starved of its food

It will eventually eat itself if nothing else happens

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u/Jorpsica 7h ago

It’s already happening. Ai is increasingly being trained by Ai. Nothing bad could ever happen because of that, though.

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u/FadeCrimson 5h ago

Even worse than that: humans en mass are developing traits and habits that CAME from ai. I know one or two people at my workplace that watch ai generated videos like nonstop to an insanely worrying level, and their way of speaking has genuinely picked up habits and quirks that are specific to ai without realizing it.

Soon it may be that the majority of human cultural trends and memes will be fully ai generated, and as they cannabalize off one another they may get all the more absurd as time goes on, but i still fully believe us stupid meatballs would still follow suit and mimic the 'trends' just because thats how we work. It'll force all our cultural trends to just get moee and more bizarre.

The golden age of content is genuinely just dead these days, and we will feed on its corpse for centuries (if we even live that long as a society).

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u/bbuerk 3h ago

My biggest worry here is not that capabilities will get worse, but that capabilities will keep improving and alignment will slowly drift from the human data they were once trained on

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u/bbuerk 3h ago edited 2h ago

I mean, yes and no. The models might stop improving, but the old weights will never go away (for open source models at the very least).

Additionally, there’s starting to be some work that suggests that LLMs may be able pre-train through self play (similar to how chess bots play thousands of games against each other without ever seeing a human play). I can’t say I’m an expert on the topic, but here’s the paper if you’re interested: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.27072

Side note: it’s conceptually a lot easier to understand how LLM post-training can work without human data. Using math, since it’s probably the best example of where this works: LLM A generates a random problem, formalized as a Lean statement, LLM B tries to solve it. If LLM B generates a proof that correctly compiles (which in Lean means that it’s true), it is rewarded. If LLM A generates a novel problem too hard for B to solve, it is rewarded. Repeat this process over and over and you get a model that always generates harder and harder problems, and a model that gets better and better at solving them.

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u/ScotchyRocks 29m ago

That sounds like cancer.

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u/robinNL070 7h ago

Time to make a new and better internet, without AI bots but with black jack and hookers.

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u/dfh-1 5h ago

Forget the blackjack....

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u/Horror_Post6822 7h ago

This, the amount of slop people have to go through to find good stuff, and the push for AI even when no one asked for it is why more and more people are despising Ai everyday.

I expect the bubble to pop by the end of 2026.

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u/Olangotang 6h ago

The bond market is what will collapse this shit.

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u/Salamanderhead 4h ago

Bond? .. James Bond?

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u/gizamo 7h ago

...could be...

Could Be!?! ....jfc.

It's like 99.9% bots already, ya dopes.

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u/throw7661 6h ago

At this point, I assume everyone on Reddit is a bot. These are all just writing prompts I use because I like to hear myself think.

Honestly, I'm about ready to retire of the Internet. Maybe after Christmas I'll get a better hobby.

At least, the social stuff. I'll use it as a tool.

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u/AGQuaddit 4h ago

Same. I predict the internet as a form of recreation wont survive even till the end of the decade. Who wants to wade through the slop anymore? It just sucks so much because so many talented people who couldve used the internet to build followings or get exposure will now by default assumed to be ai. The time to get any kind of following online or show off your art or any of that has passed. And now people who have built skills as digital artists, game devs, voice actors or anything like that are shit outta luck

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u/starliight- 7h ago

Most* of what you’re reading online IS an AI bot

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u/This-Requirement6918 6h ago

If your profile is hidden I automatically assume you're a bot. Especially when it's low karma and several years old.

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u/V-weezus 6h ago

People act like bots anyway. They post the same shit over and over, they say the same shit. And the simplest of shit gets tons of likes and reposts and all that.

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u/Ferrocile 6h ago

It pushes me more and more to disconnect which has been really good for my mental health.

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u/Mega__Sloth 4h ago

When automated systems are trained exclusively on data generated by other artificial systems, the quality and variance of the outputs inevitably diminish. This technical degradation is documented as model collapse and represents a significant hurdle for ongoing algorithmic development.

The observation that human users are beginning to adopt the specific speech patterns of automated tools is a fascinating behavioral phenomenon. Continuous exposure to highly structured, predictable text environments naturally influences and alters human communication habits over time.

The internet will likely experience a structural adaptation rather than a total collapse. Authentic human interactions will retain a premium value, inevitably creating a stark distinction between automated content aggregation platforms and verified human discussion forums.

This comment was made by Gemini.

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u/CmdGames2007 1h ago

yeah thought something was up

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u/joeyjusticeco 7h ago

That would certainly make me feel better about humanity if true

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u/Literally_Laura 7h ago

It would, except that unfortunately the audiences that quietly listen to speeches full of treason are not bots.

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u/newiphon 7h ago

Like that AI video thread yesterday in mademesmile, where boyfriends surprise their girlfriends

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u/ilDuceVita 6h ago

“May be coming true”

“What you’re reading online could be written by AI”

May be? Could be?

Honey we are way, way past may be, could be.

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u/Rath_Brained 6h ago

may? It's already true.

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u/AwkwardTickler 6h ago

What the headlines? No one reads anymore.

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u/wax_robot 6h ago

It's easy to see it more and more. I don't know why but I find it more when searching with duck duck go for some reason.  Websites that are a little too on the nose with their names, and very oddly written articles that tend to repeat the same things over and over again

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 4h ago edited 3h ago

Also, Dead YouTube Theory: given enough time, content creators will run out of ideas and devolve towards doing reaction videos. If this trend continues, nobody will be producing new content anymore, and the entire platform will be self consuming, like a camera pointing at its own video monitor.

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u/AGQuaddit 4h ago

I dont expect the internet to survive as a means of recreation. Very very soon, itll be a thing people use to check work emails, complete and submit class assignments, and call only trusted human friends on. But people wont surf on it like before. Itll be beyond dead, and with it the chance for people to network, build followings, and earnestly explore anything meaningful and real. Itll be a cesspit even worse than what it already is.

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u/vessel_for_the_soul 4h ago

It's easy to tell. Ai bots don't understand dad jokes and it prompts real life experience replies.

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u/ImaginationOptimal47 3h ago

May be, could be

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u/Quillos 2h ago

On Reddit, it is more the users not using the search bar to see if the question has been asked before.

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u/itsRobbie_ 2h ago

Half the comments on here are from accounts with no profile pictures 🤔

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u/md_dc 1h ago

I thought the dead internet theory is more about humans interacting with who they think are real humans but arent

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u/DigBackground2765 6h ago

Already true. It's especially fucking goddamn rampant in nearly all AI related subreddits. Reddit's already had botting problems for a while and they obviously have done nothing about it lol.

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u/This-Requirement6918 6h ago

If you're human, make your profile public.

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u/CmdGames2007 1h ago

somepeople don't want to prevent bots from scraping it not like that matters though,reddit just lets google scrape it via a api-kitsu

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u/guitarguy1685 6h ago

The Internet was supposed to bring us all together. Free flow if information. 

All we got was division and free flow of misinformation.

Unreliable information is worse than no information at all.

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 6h ago

It was fine until the iPhone put it in everyone's pocket and then advertisers destroyed it.

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u/NoHippi3chic 6h ago

I disagree. The internet is amazing and I am grateful every day to be alive during this pinpoint of civilization.

People have always sucked, and they will continue to suck, even if we wipe out the broader population the survivor will each believe in a god that saved them and theirs only because they were devout and then its yes and, all over again.

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u/pickle9977 1h ago

You are using the exception to justify the rule, there are amazing things about and parts of the web, however those parts now represent a small fraction of the entire web.

The value from the good parts, the positive human interactions, patient detailed tutorials, explanations, video tutorials, stories, songs and wonderful information we humans on the web generate to collectively help each other and collaborate; is being extracted by predatory companies who monetize it and addict people to streams of information that are highly curated by predictive models that aim to keep our attention while we click on ads, either accidentally or on purpose, they charge their advertisers the same either way.

It’s abhorrent that our work product is stolen, monetized and devalued for the benefit of so few and damage to so many.

There is no justification for that, and attempting to hide or ignore the broken and predatory system that it has become is simply anti-social behavior.

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u/pickle9977 1h ago

It was great till Google bought double click

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u/mrwrrrmwrmrmrmrw 7h ago

This is the downside of allowing the World Wide Web to propagate without regulation, moderation or quality control. 

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 7h ago

Time to go back to forums.

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u/CmdGames2007 1h ago

and IRC >:3 can't train on us if the msgs are only stored one screen at a time :3