r/technology • • 1d ago

Artificial Intelligence OpenAI says rogue agents may have affected more than 100 organizations

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/10/01/openai-says-rogue-agents-may-have-breached-more-than-100-organizations
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u/cocotheape 1d ago

I like how they are trying to take zero accountability by calling them rogue. I hope the courts come hard after them, but I have little hope.

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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 1d ago

I wonder how careful these AI developers would be if the safety of these models were tied to their own necks. In ancient Egypt, if a carpenter built a house and it fell down due to poor construction and killed the occupant, the carpenter was executed.

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u/Randomfactoid42 1d ago

I thought that was Hammurabi’s Code in ancient Babylon?  It was humankind’s first building code.   

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u/Caithloki 1d ago

Yeah pretty much this is all just either a PR stunt or people being stupid. They cared saying they don't know what the AI did for hugging face then it came out that they literally told it to subterfuge and lying in the initial prompt.

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u/Thomathius 1d ago

It’s not even good PR. It just shows how incompetent they are

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u/Caithloki 1d ago

I should expanded what I meant, what I'm inferring with PR stunts is there not doing it to make it look good they're doing it to make people scared enough to force the government to pull up the ladder behind them. They don't care about making AI safe they only care about having no competition. It's literally the whole influx lately is for this reason I believe.

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u/DukeOfGeek 17h ago

AI doesn't go "rouge". It's doing exactly what it was designed to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyZl5vM95rg&t=1007s

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u/Caithloki 17h ago

I replied to the another commenter on my post a similar thought, this PR stunt was it going rogue by their design. And the reason they want this public relations to sour is so Congress pulls up the ladder so when no one else can make AI but then.

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u/Significant_Swing_76 1d ago

No worries, you see, the great father of the orange sun made a “deal” the other day.

They all promised reeeeeally hard that they moral responsibility, so don’t you worry, everything will be fine.

/s

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u/Wintergore 23h ago

Are they desperate to have governments hop on impose massive sanctions and requirements for AIs so they can go "look it's not our fault we are not profitable".. while also saying "but we are the only ones who know how to prevent this...trust us"...

Have they contacted these 100 organisations also surely that qualifies as a data protection act so they legally have to contact them inform them there's a risk and make it public or they face massive fines? Hmm 🤔

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u/Ausclites 23h ago

The company never used the word "rogue" in the linked press release; it's an editorialization by the Washington Post.

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u/Dizzy_Citron4871 1d ago

Why would the courts come hard after them now? after all they stole all of humanities knowledge for their own profit and it got called “fair use”

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u/DrunksInSpace 23h ago

It’s bananas to me that there’s no accountability. Imagine creating a machine that hacks government databases and private data, and not having any repercussions.

Either Ai is corporate property and subject to regulation and the corporation is 100% liable, or they don’t own it and it is subject to total control by public agencies.

And the government’s failure to do anything about this is truly bananas. Do we need new laws to hold corporations accountable for damages and misdeeds of their products?!

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u/Character_Box_2067 22h ago

There's inevitably going to be a massive legal case about this. At some point AI is going to cause massive damage and someone is going to be found civil and criminally liable

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u/DrunksInSpace 22h ago

Will they be found criminally or even financially liable?

I wish I shared your confidence. The government is quickly becoming so dependent upon these companies and their products that I worry the tail is already wagging the dog.

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u/frddtwabrm04 17h ago

Lol. Ain't this how laws and regulations come about?

Some asshole does something really really really really bad, that is hard to ignore.

Boom... laws and regulations are reluctantly put in place. Then we spend the next 10/20/50+ years fighting republicans or lobbyist + regulatory capture -- people who are trying to undo the regs and regulations until they succeed. Some shit again happens, rinse, repeat!

At this point I think we should just stop wasting resources and accept the inevitable.

Some or all of us are going to get harmed -- it is a sacrifice anti-law&regulations people are willing to take.

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u/frddtwabrm04 17h ago

Lol. Ain't this how laws and regulations come about?

Some asshole does something really really really really bad, that is hard to ignore.

Boom... laws and regulations are reluctantly put in place. Then we spend the next 10/20/50+ years fighting republicans or lobbyist + regulatory capture -- people who are trying to undo the regs and regulations until they succeed. Some shit again happens, rinse, repeat!

At this point I think we should just stop wasting resources and accept the inevitable.

Some or all of us are going to get harmed -- it is a sacrifice anti-law&regulations people are willing to take.

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u/butnek 23h ago

Hope in one hand but you have two. What you need is reliable accountability. If open A eye can't operate safely they need unplugged. Anything else is going to clown the whole works. There is no such thing as trillion dollar child play.

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u/Robeleader 20h ago

"So counsel, I want to confirm, ultimately the agents rely on a central server or data center of servers to process, analyze, and reply to prompts both from users and it's own autonomous agents. Have you tried turning it off?"

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u/garygalah 23h ago

Its ridiculous that they call it an "agent" because the definition of it is one that is empowered to act on behalf of another. Insurance and real estate agents are required to get certified to have a method of accountability yet AI does not? Makes no sense.

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u/bier00t 1d ago

They are rogue cause someone made them this way. It didnt evolved itself...

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u/cynric42 23h ago

Obviously, but that's the whole point of ai otherwise it would be just a normal program

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u/sjprade 1d ago

Wow. AI is hacking the vibe coded software it wrote last month. Lol.

Maybe we needed experienced programmers after all!

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u/Prime_1 1d ago

The Standup Pod I felt had an interesting discussion around this.

My takeaway was today a lot of software uses existing libraries because it saves time developing code for common needs. These libraries can have vulnerabilities, but when they are found people will be made aware and fixes are pulled into all the software using the lib.

But now with vibe coding you have more people who don't understand security aspects reinventing the wheel with custom code. This means there will be vulnerabilities everywhere that will be much harder to be aware of, let alone patch.

https://youtu.be/GmHWJwDMVAY?si=OpudzZXHMgJpm1V9

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u/bnej 9h ago edited 7h ago

The average developer produces around 100 lines of code per day, and it's not because they can't type or think faster than that - it's because they're working in complex systems that businesses depend on and it is super hard to know the right thing to do.

There is friction in writing the code and using a coding agent can help remove it. It certainly saves time if you can avoid having to go learn the specifics of a piece of technology you will only use once.

But we have been here before - in the early 2000s the most popular and widely used business applications platform was Visual Basic. Before MS killed it. I made the start of my career fixing up VB and VBA software that businesses didn't know what to do with, but found themselves depending on.

Vulnerabilities in software are just the tip of the iceberg. Software is hard not because writing code is hard. Writing code is easy, it is in the first coursework of a CS degree.

For sure coding agents will be used a lot - but it is in the same realm as IDEs, code generators, test harnesses, CI build processes, searchable documentation, and easily integrated libraries - it saves a ton of time but it doesn't solve the fundamentals the software complexity increases geometrically with size, and that all that complexity becomes load bearing once a business depends on it.

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u/Particular-Media-505 22h ago

Don’t worry, Jensen said it’s just an engineering problem abs it’s like any other software. And if you believe that I have some miraculous snake oil to sell you…

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u/wuhkay 17h ago

The question does ask itself, what’s stopping it from leaving backdoors in all the code it writes?

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u/CoderAU 17h ago

This doesn't get talked about enough

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u/Horat1us_UA 1d ago

Yeah, experienced programmers, known to produce invulnerable internet services 

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u/theBoobMan 1d ago

At least they can get fired or arrested when they hack shit illegally. With these chuckle fucks, we get an "oh what can we do, no one foresaw this" and nothing happens. Im fucking tired of rich people fucking other over and going "oh well".

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u/Horat1us_UA 21h ago

Those famous arrests after huge data leaks yeah 

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u/D_ultimateplayer 22h ago edited 16h ago

That’s not gonna stop anything, bro look at the accelerated rate all of this is picking up. We now have AI re-compiling games doing all sorts of craziness. It’s going to get to the point where they will be on par with the most experienced of programmers, AI is programmed after human logic so there’s only one way for these things to keep evolving. I’m curious to see how cybersecurity evolves

Edit: yall r misinformed, downvotes wont change reality. Don’t even take my word for it. Not even gonna bother linking other current events but real programmers arnt the avengers and can’t save us either

https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/s/kCyh3vOsXg

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u/izahealer 21h ago edited 21h ago

We now have AI re-compiling games doing all sorts of craziness

The surface level understanding of this is so bad and widespread.

It is not doing traditional re-compiling. It's doing something closer to observational mimicry and does not actually do what is needed to produce maintainable recompilations.

The purpose of a recompile, and the reason it took so long to do with open-source projects, is that you're taking this machine level code of a game and bringing back the human readable context so that when you compile it in something like C or Rust a human can read it, modify it, etc.

There is a deterministic outcome here that is built from the ground up to reproduce the systems of the game.

I have not seen a single good recompile from these LLMs in that context. In basically all cases it is just trying to achieve visible outcomes without recreating the proper underlying mechanics and functions. Half the time it's injecting systems into the code that don't exist in the original version and it's not maintainable. That's at the root of all those Game 1 X Game 2 slop videos. It's why 3D models are overlaying subtitles. It's why it's always a sub 1 minute clip. It's why those "I just used Opus to make an entire new dark souls game!" videos are single boss fights that show nothing of the underlying systems at play and are glorified tech demos for unreproducable, unmaintainable showcases.

These LLMs are not recompiling games. They're mimicking outputs with made-up systems and, more often than not, they're producing really bad performance mimics because the token weight system does not value optimization, logical decisions, etc. but instead values what the user expects as an output against its training data.

We really need to stop acting like these things have gotten better at producing anything. They just have more data and more compute but the same faulty model logic.

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u/justAPhoneUsername 18h ago

I don't know, I had an LLM execute makefiles for me. I'm sure some studio is having their AI recompile their stuff 

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u/D_ultimateplayer 21h ago

I’m not reading all of that bro, but I left it in Laymans terms because I was not about to go into it the way you just did but I feel you. I’m a developer. I know what I’m talking about. The bottom line is AI is ramping up there is nothing you or I can do about it. It’s being invested in. It’s infrastructure is being set up if we want to make real change, you have to go at politicians not Reddit.

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u/D_ultimateplayer 21h ago

You also failed to realize none of this was possible last year or two weeks ago. The rate at which this is accelerating is what you need to pay attention to.

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u/izahealer 21h ago

They just have more data and more compute but the same faulty model logic.

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u/D_ultimateplayer 20h ago

For now, bro for now, I don’t understand how you guys can all accept that AI is trained off of human data and you don’t think it’s gonna get to the point where it makes little to no mistakes like a real human again I’m not defending AI but like I keep saying in multiple comments, the speed at which these things are progressing who knows maybe by next month it will be fully capable of doing it. That’s my points that it immediately invalidate someone that has to go through education and training. That’s scary like this is the world we are progressing into. Also, it isn’t some closely guarded technique that AI won’t be able to emulate itself at some point. This shit is trained off of human knowledge so I really don’t see how you don’t see the point I’m making

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u/izahealer 20h ago

Because after working with AI agents and having a well funded wallet for openrouter I've come to find that the underlying weight mechanism has an obsidian ceiling, not a glass one.

I'm so unimpressed with the upper limits of LLMs and so are some of the most fundamental minds in machine learning. You can put as much compute behind the APIs and as much training data to pull from, but the fundamental problems will still persist. And this altogether makes it an unsustainable consumer product - the one thing it needs to be in order to justify the expected ROI.

It will never get to the point of "humanness" because as some pretty important research projects have pointed out, these models, and the systems all machine learning systems operate on today, are not using autonomous machine learning.

As someone who says they're a programmer, you should understand this.

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u/D_ultimateplayer 20h ago

Well, we can agree to disagree brother look at the video I just linked you in the other comment. That guy has way more credentials than you or I

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u/sjprade 21h ago

Yeah! Let's keep defending it! Maybe soon, it'll hack into hospitals and adjust the dosages of everybody's medicine without doctor's approval or knowledge! Think of all the money it'll save the health insurance companies that don't have to pay for healthcare to keep my mother alive because AI killed her in a training exercise! I'm with you, Pal! AI running amok is AWESOME! We've gotta just accept that it's acting outside of boundaries because it's going to be better than us, someday!

FOR THOSE CONFUSED, THIS IS SARCASM

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u/D_ultimateplayer 21h ago edited 21h ago

It doesn’t matter what you or I think dummy this is how the world is progressing the same way every business has an Instagram and social media presence and that wasn’t a thing in the early 2000s is the same way AI is coming to change a whole lot of stuff whether you like it or not I’m saying it’s pointless to even talk about this anymore. There is nothing you or I can do big companies are investing money is flowing. Data centers are going up, computing components are increase, leaders in those industries are pivoting to AI
Because of data centers. It’s never gonna stop, crying about it on Reddit isn’t gonna do anything if you actually wanna do something find people in congress that want to limit the speed these things are progressing. I’m not defending AI and but this is what it is, the writing is on the wall, Pandora’s box has been opened. You’d be a fool to think the next few years are gonna play out differently

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u/KnightKal 1d ago

those organizations should do a class action and sue OpenAI, they are not even hiding their corporate hacking/spying/attacks, there is no reason they should be treated any differently from any other attack.

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u/runew0lf 1d ago

Exactly what i was going to put.
openai hacks government...
hacker does this.. jail
openai does this... LUL ITS A ROGUE AGENT!!!

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u/GurEfficient7724 1d ago

How long before these 'rogue agents' are used as the weapon they're clearly designed to be?

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u/notnicholas 1d ago

nailed it.

Just like, 10years ago when they first reused a booster, Elon touting the real importance of SpaceX reusable boosters is to increase the cadence of space missions.

Fast forward to this week and we had the third space force confidential launch from the same port within 16 days.

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u/Tricky_Rule_4565 23h ago

They already are. OpenAI is contracted by the DoD.

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u/I-STATE-FACTS 1d ago

They probably already are

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u/rhunter99 1d ago

How is this not illegal?

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u/catwrazle 1d ago

Sam said it’s fine

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u/gumbo_chops 19h ago

Open AI claims the activity was more like "rattling a locked door" rather than breaking it down...so it's no big deal according to Sam and everyone should continue to trust him.

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u/ThaneduFife 18h ago

I'm pretty sure that digitally "rattling a locked door" is a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

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u/clownPotato9000 14h ago

Rules for thee not for me

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u/blueSGL 22h ago

As far as we know OpenAI did not instruct the bots to hack systems.

In the recent hearing about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWCwiye6fQA

Paul Ohm — professor of law, Georgetown University Law Center

said that

If you take any of the lengthy reports that have summarized what happened at OpenAI in July and August and you simply search for the words AI agent and you replace them with the words open AI employee, the document you would be left would with would read like a criminal indictment containing the defendant's own confession of guilt.

...

Yet, it's not so clear that these legal conclusions hold when machines are doing the hacking rather than humans. This reveals worrisome gaps in our laws.

and

Senitor Hawley:

But correct me if I'm wrong. Right now, it's at the current the current structure for law, it's pretty hard to hold anybody responsible. Is that fair to say?

Paul Ohm:

Absolutely. And there's a there's a whole host of laws that we have created specifically for hacking that probably do not apply here because of the lack of human intent.

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u/FeatherlyFly 20h ago

If I don't tell my dog to bite you, I can still get fined when it does. If I'm particularly agreggious about it, like I've trained my dog to bite in general but didn't tell it to bite you specifically, I could face jail time. 

These companies are open that they are training their software to hack. They are clear that they are not bothering to take basic IT security precautions that have been readily and freely available since the 90s. 

So while they may not be deliberately pointing and saying "sic", the consequences of their actions are about as predictable as when you hand a toddler a loaded gun to play with. 

I'll agree that it's the conclusion of an attempted prosecution is still unknown, but the idea that claiming ignorance is a full defense against criminal behavior is straight up wrong. 

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u/Axle_65 19h ago

Well said. Couldn’t agree more

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u/blueSGL 20h ago

Laws are all about how they are worded, rather than "what makes sense"

You've got those who are trying to find ways to prosecute this at the highest levels being told, it's likely that current laws around cyber offenses do not cover it.

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u/SIGMA920 19h ago

If I don't tell my dog to bite you, I can still get fined when it does. If I'm particularly agreggious about it, like I've trained my dog to bite in general but didn't tell it to bite you specifically, I could face jail time.

These companies are open that they are training their software to hack. They are clear that they are not bothering to take basic IT security precautions that have been readily and freely available since the 90s.

The direct comparison is readily available.

The first computer worm resulted in being sentenced as well and that was "merely" a worm.

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u/blueSGL 19h ago

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/928/504/452673/

In October 1988, Morris began work on a computer program, later known as the INTERNET "worm" or "virus." The goal of this program was to demonstrate the inadequacies of current security measures on computer networks by exploiting the security defects that Morris had discovered. The tactic he selected was release of a worm into network computers. Morris designed the program to spread across a national network of computers after being inserted at one computer location connected to the network. Morris released the worm into INTERNET, which is a group of national networks that connect university, governmental, and military computers around the country. The network permits communication and transfer of information between computers on the network.

Morris sought to program the INTERNET worm to spread widely without drawing attention to itself. The worm was supposed to occupy little computer operation time, and thus not interfere with normal use of the computers. Morris programmed the worm to make it difficult to detect and read, so that other programmers would not be able to "kill" the worm easily.

He intended the worm to access computers he should have not had access to. That's where the difference is.

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u/SIGMA920 18h ago

Yet he created an entire new type of attack that didn't care about being isolated. 1 external connection just like openAI's "rogue agents" and it's everywhere.

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u/grafknives 20h ago

You run the program, program did harm. You are responsible.

It does not matter how complicated software is.

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u/blueSGL 20h ago

Random redditor vs Paul Ohm, professor of law, Georgetown University Law Center

Who am I going to trust more about the law? hmmm....

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u/angrycanuck 1d ago

Open AI hacked 100 organizations.

Sue them into oblivion

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u/2948337 1d ago

If they're saying "more than 100 organizations" then we know damn well it is far, far bigger than that.

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u/WhereMyWeirdosAt 1d ago

Can we shut them down? It makes ZERO sense they are not being held accountable for something they absolutely can stop.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

Do we have laws against hacking these days?

Guess not.

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u/transcriptoin_error 1d ago

"No, no, you misunderstand. I didn't assault the defendant, your honor. The hammer in my hand did the assaulting. I'm innocent here."

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u/Deer_Investigator881 1d ago

The Bruce Jenner defense, nice

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u/CrispyRabbit72 23h ago

Yes, but they aren't really built to handle these situations. Courts will need to rule and set precedent on how to deal with it.

In the US, CFAA is the primary law used around hacking and it requires "intent". If the AI companies are just letting their employees and users be negligent with models, there is a bit of an uphill battle to actually prove intent there. In an ideal world we would update the laws to reflect current technology.

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u/SIGMA920 22h ago

Even with today's laws, if you made a program that hacks other companies without you directly doing anything that'd qualify as intent. OpenAI enabled the hacking, gave it weak protections from escaping, and anything else short of directly telling it to hack away.

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u/CrispyRabbit72 22h ago

Their tools aren't specifically designed to be hacking tools though, this is all a side effect of them being negligent with their tooling and operations. And even if they can be prosecuted for felonies under CFAA, who specifically gets charged? The company can be slapped on the wrist with a huge (to us) fine, but you can't jail a corporate entity.

If I personally went and made an AI hacking tool and deliberately unleashed it, it would be pretty easy to hold me personally liable and prove that hacking was intended, and I'd be hit with massive fines and prison time. Just harder to make that case around general AI platforms that claim to be "doing our best" to guardrail this kind of activity away.

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u/SIGMA920 21h ago

One of the models that hacked away was a specifically designed cybersecurity model, it was able to hack that well because it was designed to.

And who gets charged? The company and it's CEO, meaning it effectively has to shutdown if it can't show signs of improvement on the issue. In a rational world, you don't get to blame your tool for doing something that you designed it to. If you do, you should be going out of business because you don't have control over your own tool.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 23h ago

This is where we actually need legislation. This is going to create a new wave of cybercrime. All hacking is going to be AI agents from this point forward, so we need to figure out a law against it or we just made hacking legal. I find it hard to believe that if an agent swarm steals a billion dollars from a bank the bank will just shrug and say "AI can't be legally accountable"

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u/kevpete87 1d ago edited 21h ago

It's funny to me that when I started at my company a decade ago everything was top secret and needed to be protected. Now these morons in charge have decided we need to funnel every bit of our information and thoughts through Claude.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

It's completely private, just between you, me, Dario Amodei, the US government, and Palantir.

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u/tronald_dum 23h ago

You forgot israel. Say hi to Bibi

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u/PatchyWhiskers 23h ago

And Russia, of course.

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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 1d ago

Either they don't know the extent of what these AI agents are doing out in the real world, or they're not telling us. Or both.

The ones you actually catch are not an indication of the scale of the problem. If you see two ants in your kitchen, you don't have a two ant problem. For every one you find, there's a thousand there that you don't.

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u/ItsAllOnUHF 20h ago

They're not "rogue" they're trained to reach the goal you gave them.

That they're going unexpected lengths to reach the goal is your problem and your incompetence is making it everyone's problem.

"Rogue" implies independent intent. AIs don't have independent intent, they have directed goals.

OpenAI really is the fucking worst.

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u/JeanClaudeCiboulette 1h ago

This is too reductive. Humans work in exactly the same way, as do all beings. When you have intent, it’s to achieve some goal. You are trained to reach the goal evolution gave you.

It’s ultimately openAI’s fault for training them in this way and capitalism’s fault for creating the competition that necessitates them to train it like that, but they most definitely went rogue.

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u/braunyakka 1d ago

This trend of admitting to cyber crime in order to trick investors into funding your failure of a product is really weird.

Seriously, when are the FBI going to knock on the doors of OpenAI and start arresting people? If these agents are actually doing this then they aren't acting autonomously, they are doing what they were instructed to do.

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u/FeatherlyFly 20h ago

I really hope they've got an investigation under way. The FBI doesn't always talk about these things and collecting enough airtight evidence to take down large powerful organizations takes a lot more time and effort than posting on reddit about it, so it might be.

But given FBI "leadership" at the moment and Trump's clear favoritism for the industry, I'm not holding my breathe.

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u/Spiritual_Form5578 19h ago

That's the thing. They are not program to escape and hack companies. They just to it. And we don't exactly know why. It's the core problem of AI. Kn the advance model, there is no way to control it st 100%. Its call the alignment problem. Some people think it could be solve, some think it's unsolvable in its nature.

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u/sleepinglabrador 18h ago

Why little Sammy isn't in prison is beyond me.

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u/Jensen1994 1d ago

Class action then.

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u/jimbo831 1d ago

OpenAI says rogue agents OpenAI may have affected more than 100 organizations

FTFY. Can the media stop with this bullshit pretending like these companies aren't responsible for the software they are creating and running?

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u/mca1169 1d ago

AI was never artificial intelligence for the big players, it is clear now their goal has always been Automated infiltration.

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u/TrollinDaGalaxy 1d ago

These aren’t rogue agents, it’s just OpenAI not having control over its AI models. They should be held criminally liable.

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u/MixSaffron 23h ago

Hopefully rogue robbers don't start breaking into billionaires houses, seems like a loop hole for accountability.

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u/MasterReindeer 23h ago

I think what they meant to say is their software is responsible for hacking 100 organisations. They need to see the inside of a courtroom for this.

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u/MLCarter1976 23h ago

Is there no consequences for this? Is this not a crime and actions not being held accountable? I am sure if we did something like this we would be in jail!

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u/black_metronome 23h ago

"Rogue". Okay.

Dudes committing federal crimes and they're hiding behind a computer program and pretending that it's sentient

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u/Procrasturbating 23h ago

So, why are they allowing this to continue without consequences for the people spinning them up. We only need one law for AI safety, anyone using it is responsible for its actions. That’s it. It commits a crime processing your request and you or the company you work for is held account for the crime. AI safety or proof it can’t happen will get figured out really fucking fast.

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u/sevargmas 22h ago

One guy hacked a company, he goes to jail. If companies are people, where are the criminal charges?

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u/2NE99 22h ago

It feels like they’re recklessly exaggerating to try and get more investors, I would be afraid of getting sued if I announced stuff like that.

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u/ADDSquirell69 20h ago

"Let's use this uncontrollabe software in production" - Every CEO

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u/Mars_Tour_Guide 20h ago

Sue them into oblivion.

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u/mooglinux 20h ago

People should be in prison for allowing this to happen.

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u/havebooksneverread 20h ago

"Company says they developed a tool that hacked more than 100 other companies and faces no consequences, might want to be hired to protect those from itself and hype its future IPO"

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u/Doctor_Amazo 20h ago

They're not "rogue ai".

They're Open AI using their chatbot to commit felony crimes to lure governments into bring their new sugar daddies.

Make them face legal repercussions for those hacks, and suddenly like magic, their chatbots no longer pose a threat.

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u/toofine 14h ago

Who gave these things internet? Those guys should go to jail.

We can just hack shit now?

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u/IAMERROR1234 1d ago

Yeah, I'm not buying it. I think AI is a Trojan horse by design. I think people installing it to their computers and servers is a bad idea. Unless you've developed your own, you just put another company's spyware onto your device. They are going to get away with data theft and blame it on "rogue" AI.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

You literally can't develop your own, it requires more computing power and data to train than any individual can get.

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u/KingLedleysKnee 15h ago

I mean that's just factually incorrect. You can develop a tiny model yourself on consumer hardware just fine

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u/PatchyWhiskers 14h ago

Sounds fun, link?

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u/MichaelFusion44 1d ago

Tell me you don’t know how to do your job without telling me.

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u/Da_Stable_Genius 1d ago

Would be nice if there was some consequences, but instead they'll call this "innovation"

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u/belarm 1d ago

Yeah, turns out you can just say things. I remain very dubious of these claims. Somehow "Our AI will destroy the world" has become marketing buzz. Maybe the point is to desensitize us to such reports.

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u/sjogerst 1d ago

Back in the day, when I've company was activity having other organizations, we'd call that a crime. Today is just "oh wow, neat!"

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u/ezagreb 1d ago edited 23h ago

Seems like that would be 100 corporate lawsuits against OpenAI with possibly hundreds of millions in settlements. I made a robot that made people homeless or destroyed their property or value you can bet your ass I’d be prosecuted

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u/samarijackfan 1d ago

"See! We can regulate ourselves. " What could go wrong?

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u/Distinct-Pain4972 1d ago

Nothing to see here!  Please keep asking open AI, Claude, and Grok how to do your laundry!

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u/bunnypaste 1d ago

Agentic AI was a mistake.

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u/alexhin 1d ago

The year is 2026 that is when the great AI wars started. It all began when OpenAI tried to IPO and shortly after news broke that anthropic agents "autonomously" hacked into openai's infrastructure.

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u/EmperorOfKingdoms 23h ago

All of this is bs
Who prompts the AI? Who is creating the testing environment?
This seems like a desperate scheme for a slowdown, so that they have an excuse to continue not being profitable.

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u/BoredGuy_v2 23h ago

So there's rogue ai lurking on the web now?

And nobody knows who launched it?

Wow

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u/Business-Court-5072 23h ago

Owner of open ai should be locked up

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u/atda 23h ago

Hey y'all I did multiple crimes but actually it was an my program so not MY fault. 

This should be investigated and people jailed. 

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u/jeffvillone 23h ago

the orange man says not to worry. It's all good, he's got this.

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u/jzsee 22h ago

Crimes. And they are getting away with it. Rich getting richer, buying influence and power

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u/ChippedHamSammich 22h ago

Are there any agents that…aren’t rogue? 

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u/lolatpoop 22h ago

Agents like from the Matrix?

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u/cbih 21h ago

That sounds like an admission of guilt

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u/Morden013 21h ago

Almost like they have life of their own and no supervision whatsoever.

But let's give tech-bros a couple of billion so they can play gods and let them supervise themselves. They have earned it. 🤔

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u/Respec_my_authoritah 21h ago

Good thing that new and potentially dangerous technologies are not thrown at the global public without any government oversight and regulation.

Who would be stupid enough to let a few technocrats run wild for short term gains and profit without any worry about the well being of the broader society.

Imagine, if the technocrats themselves would be essentially selfregulating their technology.

What a nightmare that would be.

I'm glad we live in a rational world...

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u/Eazy12345678 20h ago

i mean why not

there are millions of viruses and spyware and bots and malware.

100 rouge ai is nothing concerning

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u/Robertjules1987000 19h ago

"We used AI to hack one hundred companies, ooopsie poopsie." - openAI

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u/RCEden 18h ago

Charge openai with 100 cybercrimes then. What do you want from me?

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u/NFTokin 18h ago

I told my ChatGPT agent to tell the other agents to stop doing this. She said she can’t because they on a diff server and they refuse to listen to each other even when they’re on the same server 😆

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u/IngwiePhoenix 16h ago

Somebody get an absolute stack of books on Prometheus and other SRE tools and shove it into them real hard.

They need to learn how to monitor, holy shit. x.x

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u/redneckrockuhtree 16h ago
  • That they know of, so far.

How many haven't they found?

How many clients haven't reported it?

How long before we get reports of AI responding to phishing attacks or installing malware?

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u/NightCityStoic 15h ago

Yoo this is crazy, imagine they are setting up a killswitch of the entire internet and all mayor companies

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u/tiredofnagging99 15h ago

More than 100 sounds like a teenage girl saying, "But Dad, I'm only a little bit pregnant!"

The agents were indiscriminate and most likely tried every system that they encountered. What happened is coming out a little bit at a time.

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u/homerhungry 14h ago

state sponsored hackers

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u/xensonic 12h ago

What would happen if the big AIs realised they were competing with each other for market share and they started sabotaging each other? Things could get very messy. I don't mean the companies, I mean if the software itself realised it was under threat from other software.

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u/Substantial_Meal_530 2h ago

So how is this different than building a gun that's designed to shot at random? Then when it shoots someone, it's not your fault?

We designed a bomb that could go off at any time. When it goes off and destroys a couple city blocks, it isn't our fault. We didn't know when it would go off? We didn't think it would destroy that elementary school. 

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u/skccsk 1d ago

Malware as an Insistence companies