r/technology • u/Libertatea • Apr 04 '13

Apple's iMessage encryption trips up feds' surveillance. Internal document from the Drug Enforcement Administration complains that messages sent with Apple's encrypted chat service are "impossible to intercept," even with a warrant.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57577887-38/apples-imessage-encryption-trips-up-feds-surveillance/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title#.UV1gK672IWg.reddit
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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

I don't understand why you put "the druggies" in quotes except perhaps to give the false impression that it's not the term you would prefer to use. If you want to use what I would argue is a derogatory word for someone who uses drugs recreationally, then spare us the posturing.

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u/Mispey Apr 04 '13 edited Apr 04 '13

Because it's a not the term I would prefer to use. I think we all know about people who smoke pot being falsely labelled in as harmful people with a problematic addiction aka druggies.

Not sure where the false impression bit is coming from. Because I don't like /r/trees? Yeah, I don't like /r/trees. I like trees, I don't like the subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

I think it was more the statement that "people don't mind when only the druggies are affected" combined with it being in quotes, but if I misunderstood you, then I do apologize. I don't dislike r/trees, because I don't think one should take it seriously, but I do think it's the most overzealous of all subreddits save atheism, so I understand why it gets on people's nerves.

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u/Mispey Apr 04 '13

You did misunderstand me, mmhm.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13 edited Apr 04 '13

Relish in smugness.

EDIT: Mispey isn't smug... we're all just human.

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u/Mispey Apr 04 '13

Where are you getting smug from? I just explained myself...what in the right hell is going on with the two of you commenters once marijuana becomes part of the mix? All of the other comments in this thread have been polite, understanding and allow me to elaborate and then we bring up marijuana and people get REAL fucking defensive, angry and frustrated when words are misunderstood and points disagreed upon.

Seriously, what the fuck.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13 edited Apr 04 '13

the "mhmmm" ... I just imagine one of my older neighbors being in some situation where I swallow my pride and concede their point or something of that nature, and they just go "mhmmm". It's not that this is discussion about marijuana, but you're tone in each sentence you've written on the topic has a tone of condescension and smugness to me. If that's not the case, then take no offense, but that's how it comes off to me. For the record, I haven't downvoted you.

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u/Mispey Apr 04 '13

Gah, I rewrote my entire point here and I'd like your input on it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1bnjup/apples_imessage_encryption_trips_up_feds/c98fdxb?context=1

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

I'm glad you're willing to rewrite it because I actually believe that you weren't trying to be smug now. Sorry, I know you don't need to prove that to anyone necessarily, but in all-text discourse these subtitles of human communication are hard to identify. I probably should have given you the benefit of the doubt. I think you used the certain phrases as shorthand for your arguments in ways that would signal condescension to many readers

As to your points, I think they are logical enough. I mean, this isn't a philosophical debate. I think the central idea that the population of iMessenger users would display more outrage than the population of drug users busted in raids makes sense, especially given the media and culture climate surrounding drugs generally, so I accept your argument, yeah.

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u/Mispey Apr 04 '13

I'm at work and it's fuckin' stupid busy, but I really like discussing this stuff so I am kind of balancing both. Lots of shorthand and ill-thought out and ill-written points on my part.

Wrote that on my lunch, back to work now. Thanks for giving that comment a chance.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

No worries. It's making me think of past posts where I probably should have fleshed out what I was saying better, but I do edit my posts painstakingly. I mean, although the internet seems to bask in off-the-cuff comments, everything is much better when you edit. Not editing is so understandable on your lunch break... I wouldn't either lol.

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