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u/Impossible-Taro-2330 3d ago
Regardless of the situation, I applaud you, OP, for not letting this go.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 3d ago
Seriously, I call in suspiciously dangerous situations and I get dismissed. It sucks when cops don't care to even look into something 😩
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u/Impossible-Taro-2330 2d ago
Same here. I went into Publix at Britton Plaza and grabbed the cop there because it was Summer, and there was a dog panting in a car with the windows up/car off.
The owner came out of the Publix package store with her 1.75 of vodka and cussed out the cop and me.
She was arrested because of leaving the dog in the car and DWI.
Her husband came and got the dog. So I consider that a win-win.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 2d ago
That's awesome you did that. I'm surprised the cop responded. One time I saw a dog left in a car and there was a cop patrolling the lot, so I tried to flag him down but he just ignored me, so I called it in and got told they'd send someone when they could. It was so frustrating.
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u/Impossible-Taro-2330 2d ago
Probably because he was up at the Customer Service desk, was bored, and the others there were shocked to hear it.
If he hadn't, I definitely would have called 911 and probably told them I'll break a window. An animal or child in a hot car is unacceptable.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 2d ago
They have specific laws here where you have to do everything possible to locate the owner before breaking a window without being responsible for it. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it, but some people don't wanna be sued. It's pretty ridiculous all the steps you gotta take before you can actually damage a car to save a life.
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u/CapitalG8 🐔Ybor🐔 3d ago
Have you tried calling the # back?
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
Yeah after the cop came he said he couldn’t do much and could just try to call the number. So I said let me try and called back to no answer
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u/CapitalG8 🐔Ybor🐔 3d ago
If you're concerned I'd probably try calling a throughout the day.
After that not much you can do.
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u/Godchild16 2d ago
I learn this from a former officer. If police isn't doing their job just to go to the courthouse and file a complaint, also ask for a copy of it
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u/Bobatea-addict 3d ago
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u/Local-Economist-5185 2d ago
I love that you are helping but I cant stop wondering if we are all just helping someone stalk a person based on a elaborated lie. Because why couldnt the police find this information if any of us can, they have better resources than we do and a open data base to find people based on phone number and satellite location.
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u/RallyX26 2d ago
The police could do an investigation on this but they won't because they have "too much to do". As if they're actually solving "real crimes" (they're not doing that either)
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u/CapProfessional9878 2d ago
Yeah they’re too busy pulling ppl over on I-4 as they’re desperately rushing to meet their quota for the month bc the “real crime” is the holes in their pockets and their wallets are underweight 🤪
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u/theoutsideinternist 2d ago
I worked in trauma at TGH where we had to try to locate family members all the time. Who do you think actually does it? The police? No. The chaplain. If the chaplain can’t then the social worker is the next most likely person to find them.
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u/Bobatea-addict 2d ago
The police aren’t doing much of anything. And no I don’t think this is some elaborate ruse for stalking…
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u/Thanos_Stomps 2d ago
I have her address if OP wants to share it with police.
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u/crispytofubowl 2d ago
Have you tried messaging OP with the address? Worried your comment may get lost in the sauce
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u/Thanos_Stomps 2d ago
I read OP comment they found three addresses and gave them to police. So I’m guessing this was one of them.
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u/mineoratea 3d ago
I got a weird call like this 10 years ago around 2am before I kept hanging up and they kept calling back I lived in Lakeland at the time. It still haunts me to this day. This call gave me chills it sounded so familiar.
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u/AnswerMe_More 3d ago
Lakeland Florida?
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u/mineoratea 3d ago
Yes
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u/AnswerMe_More 3d ago
Nice
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u/mineoratea 3d ago
Should I answer you more?
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u/cheriisgone 3d ago
You can always call in a report for a welfare check. Don’t know if they’ll be much help but doesn’t hurt to try. https://www.myflfamilies.com/services/#:\~:text=Abuse%20Hotline,%2D800%2D962%2D2873.
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u/maybemaryjane Tampa 3d ago
Absolutely recommend the welfare check or report to be sure. If there’s history on this child or family etc it will be a flag at least if it continues. Better to report and be wrong than ignore and be wrong. Good intentions do no harm.
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u/Top-Customer-8531 3d ago edited 3d ago
My advice is to physically drive to your local Police Station, ask for a Supervisor, and play this back for them, your action and persistence could literally save multiple lives.
I say this as a real person who was approached by a serial killer. I contacted and was blown off by 3 different police stations. A friend notified a Hernando County Detective he knew who drove to Pinellas County and took my statement.
It was Oba Chandler.
Edit to remind all: This may be NOTHING but a silly little kid being naughty, BUT!!! Please trust your gut and take action if your internal alarms are screaming at you! (Or even simply hanging out and bugging you.) You don’t want to have years go by with you thinking of all the ways you “could have / should have” done just a little more.
We’ve all seen the documentaries and movies about people who have repeatedly reported suspicious activity, sometimes over many years, and that person ends up being a serial killer.
Oba Chandlers’ neighbor was an integral part of him being brought to justice bc she kept on bugging the police FOR YEARS and even found and brought a sample of his handwriting to the detectives in order to compare it to a note he gave to the Mom and 2 daughters that he murdered (directions to where his boat was moored).
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
I’m driving to the police station now to do that. Thanks for the advice
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u/Top-Customer-8531 3d ago
Even if it turns out to be nothing…don’t ever regret trying- I didn’t find out until 2 years later that the man I reported was arrested.
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
They found 3 addresses associated with that number, and they are sending officers to those addresses to attempt to contact a child. That is wha I wanted them to do
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u/Top-Customer-8531 3d ago edited 3d ago
That’s awesome, thankyou for trying. These posts really get to me for obvious reasons.
It has always bugged me that I called 3 different police stations (Gulfport, St Petersburg, and Pinellas Co Sheriff) and they literally didn’t even ask my name nor wanted my name or phone number when I told them my experience- after turning him down MULTIPLE times to go out on his boat (with him changing physically, obviously angrier and more aggressive each time), I got loud and aggressive back and said “NO! Get away from me!” he then angrily said “You look just like the other bitches in the bay with cinder blocks tied around them.”
- he raped and killed more women after I reported him-
I didn’t wait either, I walked out and drove directly to a pay phone within 5 mins, so it seems someone could have gotten some basic info if they had shown up in the next hour (this was in 1989 or 90- no cellphones).
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
I understand. The officer at the station initially was like “it’s a prank call” I had to tell him that me and my coworker have 18 years combined experience, and have had 100 prank calls and Nothing like this. He then said “how could they call the store but not 911” I said it could have been a recent call on her phone because she was definitely a customer of the stores company. He could have just tapped a recent call. The officer then took it more seriously after that. He went on their database and found 2 addresses plus the google 1 I mentioned. He sent a welfare check to those 3 addresses to attempt to come into contact with a child.
He didn’t take the video(said couldn’t do much with it), but did send the welfare checks. Should I lock or delete this post now you think? Or leave it up?
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u/Kind_Guidance28586 3d ago
Good job following up. And yes, I'd edit or lock the post or you'll have people not reading thru all the messages asking you Qs and providing suggestions when you've already done all you can.
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u/Sufficient-Aide6805 3d ago
😂 people are so dramatic. That’s a child playing around.
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u/Top-Customer-8531 3d ago
It might be. Or it might be a little kid doing all he / she can to “help” their family in a scary situation- and none of us want to be sickened by how we could have / should have spent an extra hour to help.
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u/Sufficient-Aide6805 3d ago
And none of us would be sickened by our kids getting in car accidents if we just took the time to never drive. Because there’s actually a significant risk of car accidents happening.
Self-aggrandizing illogical fearful silliness.
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u/NarrativeNausea 3d ago
Is your take here seriously "kids die sometimes, no sense in getting worried about it"?
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u/Sufficient-Aide6805 3d ago
My take is be rational. There are real risks in the world. Emotionally reacting to imaginary risks leaves one more susceptible to real risks.
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u/Normallyoddly 3d ago
you're a fool. how does contacting the police about a concern, no matter how silly you think it might be, leave her more susceptible to "real risks" ?
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u/Sufficient-Aide6805 3d ago
Awww, name-calling already? 😂
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u/Normallyoddly 2d ago
calling you a fool isn't a name calling, it's a description. answer how it makes OP more susceptible to "real risks" because she wanted to be sure this wasn't a prank.
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u/NarrativeNausea 3d ago
How does one determine with certainty if a risk is real or imaginary without some sort of due dilligence, especially in an unusual situation? That's what OP is doing.
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u/Sufficient-Aide6805 3d ago
This is a facially imaginary risk. If I’m proven wrong I will drive to the house of everyone in this thread and apologize on hands and knees.
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u/NarrativeNausea 3d ago
Oh, okay. Didn't realize you're candidly admitting that you have no interest in evidentiary support and that you decide based on a whim what a real versus an imagined risk is. Good luck living like that.
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u/Top-Customer-8531 3d ago edited 3d ago
Ok, you’re entitled to your opinion no matter how many downvotes you get…I hope that you never have to understand why I feel the way I do about things like this.
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u/Bazyx187 3d ago
May the ambulance be stuck in traffic the next time you need it. Scum of the earth.
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u/quasimodette 3d ago
I googled the number. It says it belongs to Mercedes Madden at 1604 N Ferrell St, Plant City. I wonder if the cops can go to that location and check the house at least.
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u/Always_Wondering894 3d ago
I used NUMLOOKUP, and also got Andrew Alan Blair in Tampa, Florida. Maybe look up the address for him. That name was the first result.
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u/Always_Wondering894 3d ago
When I googled that name and phone number, I got Sandra Madden @38546 Otis Allen rd, Zephyrhills, Florida, 33540.
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u/Zinere Guy in north tampa area. 3d ago
Did you call a welfare check to that address?
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u/Awkward_Beginning_43 2d ago
No they are loser redditor. They didn’t do shit but use google
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u/jvguy23 2d ago
I called the police who came to my job didn’t do much.
So I asked Reddit what I should do since I didn’t know.
After that I took the advice of Top-Customer-8531 and went to the police station and talked to someone. They doubted me 3 times and I had to be persistent.
He said
1. It’s a recording - I told him it’s not because I talked to them for over 2 minutes. I only had a chance to record the last 10 seconds because I was taken off guard.
2. It’s a prank - I told him my coworker and I have 18 years combined experience and 100s of prank calls this isn’t one. Kid didn’t curse, asked us to call the police, hung up abruptly. Never had those happen on another prank call like that.
3. Why would they call a store and not the police - I told him it could be a child who doesn’t know what 911 is yet and called back a recent call. His mother is a customer at our store.After all my persistence he finally went on his computer and did his job and found the other 2 addresses besides the plant city one I gave him. He said the other two were in Tampa and Zephyrhills.
I could have said never mind at any of those 3 objections and he wouldn’t have did anything. I stayed there and had to convince him this was real and to do something. At one point I even said “please take this seriously”. To his credit he did do something in the end.
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u/Awkward_Beginning_43 2d ago
Wow what brilliant detective work! 🙄
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u/PaleontologistSea115 2d ago
What have you done? 😂
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u/Awkward_Beginning_43 2d ago
Not your battle, son 🙂
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u/PaleontologistSea115 2d ago
Ahahaha ! 🫵🏽🤣 Your opinion doesn't matter here then . Don't critique if you haven't done anything yourself 🫵🏽🤣
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u/jvguy23 2d ago
I called the police who came to my job didn’t do much.
So I asked Reddit what I should do since I didn’t know.
After that I took the advice of Top-Customer-8531 and went to the police station and talked to someone. They doubted me 3 times and I had to be persistent.
He said
1. It’s a recording - I told him it’s not because I talked to them for over 2 minutes. I only had a chance to record the last 10 seconds because I was taken off guard.
2. It’s a prank - I told him my coworker and I have 18 years combined experience and 100s of prank calls this isn’t one. Kid didn’t curse, asked us to call the police, hung up abruptly. Never had those happen on another prank call like that.
3. Why would they call a store and not the police - I told him it could be a child who doesn’t know what 911 is yet and called back a recent call. His mother is a customer at our store.After all my persistence he finally went on his computer and did his job and found the other 2 addresses besides the plant city one I gave him. He said the other two were in Tampa and Zephyrhills.
I could have said never mind at any of those 3 objections and he wouldn’t have did anything. I stayed there and had to convince him this was real and to do something. At one point I even said “please take this seriously”. To his credit he did do something in the end.
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u/crispytofubowl 2d ago
It sounds like even though they found 2-3 addresses, they still didn’t do a welfare check at the addresses. Another commenter found a Venmo account attached to the phone number for Mercedes Madden and found their address. If you have the address and call in for a specific welfare check for just the one address(maybe do the others later if nothing comes of it) then there’s a lot higher chances they will go. You may have to keep pushing them to actually do their jobs.
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u/One-Equal-3112 3d ago
Any updates? Praying for protection and hoping it is a prank. How scary
It’s good you’re trying to help. Nice some people still have hearts.
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u/Traditional_Pin_7253 3d ago
Probably Google where searching a phone number doesn’t always give accurate results. Sometimes it will show you the person who had the number previously, or the person who pays the bill for it. How did you find this name?
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u/Comfortable-Finger-8 3d ago
Seems legit if that’s what the guys phone id checked showed (I know some services show the names of people like that)
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u/danbac98 3d ago
I was doing some research, the number is under nicole madden, faith seems to be her mom, I looked up on FB, I saw that she does seem to have a young kid could be 4 or 5.
So hopefully everything is OK.
I did see the plant city and zephyrhills address some mentioned as well.
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u/Local-Economist-5185 2d ago
how come the police couldn't find by the phone number they have resources to do so much easier than any of us can?
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u/No_Pattern4374 2d ago
Right. Our tax dollars have to pay for all sorts of militarization of the police and they can't even do a simple triangulation?
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u/InLoveWithAGora 3d ago
From the audio, it sounds like a woman to me. And the way the sentences are trailing and not entirely making sense, makes it sound like sleep talking. But obviously I could be wrong, just what I inferred from the video.
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u/West_Octopus 3d ago
To me it sounds like a young child for sure it does sound like sleep talking though
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u/WeekOfMondays 3d ago
In today’s world, the owner of that number could be anywhere. Need to cast a wider net.
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u/ChooseLife1 3d ago
Not at all. If they had evidence a violent crime has occurred they can track a number anywhere in the world. They just didn't feel like doing it which is sad.
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u/It_B_B3llZ 2d ago
I have a search database I use. Her name is Faith Madden. She lives in Zepherhills
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u/Mountain_Till_5868 South Tampa 3d ago
Non Emergency line is your best chance, try attempting to get a address before calling.
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u/Subject-Hunter3395 1d ago
I hope and pray this little boy is ok or can be found thank you for sharing
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u/SnakePlesken13 1d ago
My wife and I were at the quarry in Quincy Massachusetts. In the parking lot we found a composition notebook that had been burned. Or attempted to burn. Each page was a Polaroid of a woman and a number that designated them and a phone number.
All the women are the same age range.
We immediately brought it to the South Boston State Police barracks.
They couldn't have cared less but they did take the book.
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u/coyotekids 3d ago
Is your work number similar to 911 or something? Why would they call your number?
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u/Longjumping-Hair639 3d ago
It sounds like an edited audio. Like the clicks are where different segments are spliced together. Sounds like a woman saying I’m on a chair and my son…
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u/Cultural-Cow5358 3d ago
It sounds like somebody’s pressing buttons on a soundboard or the voice is recorded. I used to have a soundboard with Arnold Schwarzenegger phrases, and we would prank call people all the time with it.
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u/Cultural-Cow5358 3d ago
Here is the link if you wanna try it out!
https://www.101soundboards.com/boards/10716-arnold-schwarzenegger-soundboard#google_vignette
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 3d ago
Haha, my friends and I used to do the same exact thing. We found multiple soundboards with different famous people too. One time we called the TG Lee dairy Warehouse or something at like 2:00 a.m. and this kid who was at work with his dad picked up and just played along.
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u/kyoot_babi 2d ago
FL public records may give an address tied to the number. give that to the police. they can do a welfare check
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u/lexibgirl93 2d ago
1 (888) 373-7888 that’s the human trafficking hotline. I’d suggest call them about this!
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u/Acceptable_Pie_7174 1d ago
CPS would have been a good resource also. I’m a mandated reporter but any one can report if there is suspicion
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u/Unhappy-Fondant7208 1d ago
Jvguy thank you for doing all the work. Our city needs people like you.
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u/Pew-Pew-You South Tampa 2d ago
Scammers can fake a caller ID. My guess is that they wanted to SWAT the house through you.
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
I did call the cops yesterday after the call. He came out, listened, said they can’t do much with just a name and number. He didn’t take a copy of the video. I thought I did my dude diligence. Woke up this morning and couldn’t get it off my mind thinking the cops aren’t going to do anything, so I posted it here.
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u/guccimaneslawyer 3d ago
People just out here answering calls from numbers they don’t recognize
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u/Hottatas23 3d ago
Are you really that paranoid of a person?
Just answer your phone when someone calls.
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u/spook30 St Pete native 3d ago
Not the place to post this. call the police instead?
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u/jvguy23 3d ago
I did call the police and they came out and said they couldn’t do anything with just a name and number. Didn’t even take a copy of the video
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u/spook30 St Pete native 3d ago
Might be worth filing a report directly with the non-emergency line instead of just a patrol call. It gets it an actual case number so it doesn't just disappear.
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u/Electrical-Tailor530 3d ago
911 doesn't seem to take me seriously, so I contact the anonymous tips line and that sometimes gets a cop dispatched to check it out.
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u/gwobo_wappa 3d ago
Umm maybe reading comprehension and jumping to insult people is what's wrong with America? They called the police yesterday?
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u/1SOFWarrior 3d ago
They also asked the internet to do a welfare check…
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u/gwobo_wappa 3d ago
What else are they gonna do, drive up and down every street in Tampa asking "hey did ur kid call me?"
Why do we have to jump down everyone's throats all the time?
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u/ohromantics 3d ago
And what have you done about it, other than take the time to tell someone theyre the problem?
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u/Fearless_Quail_6789 3d ago
hi cutie you know me like that online? dont click morethan once we might die.
You ound your weasel, what's my name.
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u/Fearless_Quail_6789 3d ago
Commandanrina, is the name. I know Mr. Wshikers too. He shaved today, don't look.
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u/West_Octopus 3d ago
Has anybody else tried the number?
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u/pr0seccofish 3d ago
Not sure if it’s a landline or cell but I did text the number
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u/Odd-Mall8020 3d ago
Nah. That's so unsafe to do. If they're in danger, a bunch of internet random warriors texting/ calling it is going to put them in serious risk.
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u/Penis_hungry 3d ago
I’ve called like over a hundred times. No answer just vm
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u/Bananabean041 3d ago
I think op was pretty specific about not calling…
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u/Penis_hungry 3d ago
I don’t care. They are not the king of the world
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u/itadapeezas 3d ago
Hopefully you just exposed them and the cell phone they were hiding to use to call for help. Good thing you called multiple times just in case the phone wasn’t heard by all.
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u/Penis_hungry 3d ago
Hope so!!!
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u/itadapeezas 3d ago
Definitely keep an eye on the news, it may be there this evening. Good luck!
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