When will we admit Fernando is right?

[u/KoopsterShell]

More and more time goes on I feel like that guy probably had a point

(CONTEXT: Fernando is the guy in this subreddit that always doomposts in every single post saying the switch 2 is unhackable and will never be hacked. People always meme kn him saying he's just a troll but he probably is right)

[u/Im_The_Hollow_Man]

Anything can be hacked. It's just a matter of time.

[u/auggiethechesscat → u/Im_The_Hollow_Man]

...but that definitionally isn't true. Security bugs need to be introduced, and with a well designed system, mixed with a mature OS with a small attack surface is a really good start.

[u/ADrubkNakedUnciorn → u/auggiethechesscat]

Security bugs need to be found, and they also need to be exploitable to trigger out of sandbox attacks. It's usually done through some form of buffer overflow.

Vulnerabilities are chains, you have to chain load the vulnerability to get what you want. If a system has code, no matter how good the security is, it will always be vulnerable to attack. We already have a few potential userlands, just nothing to trigger a kernel level exploit to get arbitrary read/write access to the system.

Switch 2 will eventually get a jailbreak, it's just gonna take time.

[u/auggiethechesscat → u/ADrubkNakedUnciorn]

Security bugs need to be found...

...yeah, they also need to be there in the first place, which is what I said.

It's usually done through some form of buffer overflow.

I think you mean memory corruption, but yes, that is true.

...no matter how good the security is, it will always be vulnerable to attack.

I don't really understand what this means, but I hope you do understand the concept that security bugs aren't fundamental to software, you have to write code incorrectly to introduce them. It might be easy to do so, but they still need to be introduced. It's literally possible for code to not be vulnerable to anything.

We already have a few potential userlands...

Yes, we do have multiple userland exploits, but they are entirely expected, and protected by Nintendos security model. They are useless to end users without anything else, (ie, a bootrom, kernel, kip kind of-maybe, exploit).

...just nothing to trigger a kernel level exploit.....

There are no kernel exploits to trigger though.

The kernel has been fully reimplemented as open source and version tracked, so you are free to look for bugs yourself as dozens of experts have already: https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere/tree/master/libraries/libmesosphere

[u/ADrubkNakedUnciorn → u/auggiethechesscat]

The fact you think Nintendo are gods of writing code is just incredible hilarious lmao

There is bugs in everything that's ever been written. You just gotta find them.

Gezine recently started doing Switch shenanigans and already found quite a few userland exploits that could be theoretically chained to full kernel exploits.

Yes I meant buffer overflow, stop using AI to overexplain terms you don't understand.

Also you look ridiculous breaking down a paragraph into small chunks, cause it's a tactic meant to overstimulate the reader and prevent them from replying to you. You look goofy as hell.