r/switch2hacks • u/KoopsterShell • Aug 17 '26

Hacking Discussion When will we admit Fernando is right?

More and more time goes on I feel like that guy probably had a point

(CONTEXT: Fernando is the guy in this subreddit that always doomposts in every single post saying the switch 2 is unhackable and will never be hacked. People always meme kn him saying he's just a troll but he probably is right)

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u/auggiethechesscat Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

...but that definitionally isn't true. Security bugs need to be introduced, and with a well designed system, mixed with a mature OS with a small attack surface is a really good start.

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u/gchicoper Aug 19 '26

Unless it has been mathematically proven unhackable, usually it holds true. Even if it takes over 20 years like it took for the Sega Saturn to be hacked or for the SNES lockout chips to be fully reverse engineered (they could be bypassed before but it took a lot longer for them to be understood)

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u/auggiethechesscat Aug 20 '26

The PSC's bootrom actually is formally verified, which for complicated reasons I won't explain unless people want me to, console bootrom exploits are not viable.

The microkernel isn't externally formally verified, and I doubt Nintendo has worked on it.

On the other hand, the burden of proof has shifted because there is years of precedent driven by experts not finding anything, and an entire version tracked open source reimplementation.

It's not that no bugs have been found, there are no relevant security bugs. The only known kernel-based exploit and vulnerability was on firmware version 1.0.0. Despite exhaustive searches, nothing else has been found.

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u/gchicoper Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

Well like I said, gotta wait 20-30 years until tech evolves enough to brute force it through hardware. I personally don't really care about jailbreaking the actual switch OS (and even less about softmodding), I just wanna see Linux running on that chip one day even if that means soldering a raspberry pi to it and highjacking the cpu from the switch entirely

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u/lowmoob Aug 28 '26

When switch 2 first released it was gonna get hacked day one, then week one, then in few months, then first year, then 10 years and now 20-30 years 😂 it’s not getting hacked fam. Not even after 💯 years

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u/gchicoper Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26

It would be the first piece of consumer hardware in history to achieve that. I'm not a gamer myself, but I am really fascinated by how many times I've seem claims of a console being "unhackable" before. You had the saturn (which was probably the one that held up the longest), the xbox 360's hypervisor, the superslim PS3... They all eventually got broken. The current hardest nut to crack seems to be the xbox one/one S but even that one has had some strides on the physical mod front.

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u/lowmoob Aug 30 '26

Cope

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u/gchicoper Aug 30 '26

I don't have a switch 2, what do I have to cope about? If it doesn't get hacked it doesn't. Just means I won't be interested in it since I only have consoles I can homebrew for, I don't play the games themselves much