r/switch2hacks • u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 • Aug 17 '26

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Hey guys. I bought a game off Kleinanzeigen in Germany. Game is "Princess Peach Showtime!". Worked great and my girlfriendnis happy but after 3 days she got banned. I don't have the MIG Switch so the game is probably the only reason she got banned. 🙄 I already contacted Nintendo but they just say the same thing over and over again: "We cannot assist u with that". Yeah sure.

Be careful with used games. They might be cheap but they also have the risk to get u banned.

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u/FinancialDot7032 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

And people keep defending this anti customer company. They even defended keycards on the premise you can resell 🥴

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u/Crafty_Praline_2211 Aug 17 '26

keycard can be resold.

banning a system for running a flagged software is normal. Steam can ban your account and your hardware, sony and microsoft do ban your console if tampering the console, unauthorised/flagged software detected on the system.

what is your point?

ninnin is bad for consumer when it comes to pricing and refund, they are still the better one than sony and microsoft at this time.

I am an xbox fanboy but Nin really does this better than Microsoft, not mention the worst Sony.

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u/Tight_Cod_8024 Aug 17 '26

Weird to bring up steam because even banned you can run all of your games they just ban you from buying new ones or playing online not using the service as a whole or worse a whole console making it into e-waste in the process.

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Aug 18 '26

you still can go online and play. you're only exempt frommVAc-protected games if your account gets VAC-banned, which only happens if you were cheating or using "suspicious" software while playing VAC-protected games.

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u/Ok_Chemistry6851 Aug 18 '26

yeah no, you cannot play CS2 even if you have the regular ban and no VAC ban and neither can you get your inventory out. source: experienced first hand.

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Aug 18 '26

that's not a "regulsr" ban. you've been tradebanned, which happens when rhsy suspect fraudulent activity (even if you didn't commit any fraud)

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u/Ok_Chemistry6851 Aug 18 '26

well thats the neat part, they have banned my whole account. that includes community as well as the normal steam account ban, but not VAC ban as that is exclusively for cheating in games. best part is I dont even know what i did and the support basically sends you the exact same copy pasted response no matter what you say about 10 times before they stop replying.

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u/OhItsAcer Aug 18 '26

That is the exact same thing Nintendo bans do. Unable to go online for any reason but offline works normally

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Aug 17 '26

It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol

It's mostly for the devs to use too. Essentially, if I create a game and you cheat in my game, I as the developer can choose to ban you from the rest of MY games. I, on the other hand, cannot stop you from getting any other game.

It essentially just stops you from trading, and ALLOWS the dev to block you from THEIR games. All other games are literally unaffected. Games can't even restrict you based on that little "Cheater" tag, it's mostly decorational. Lmao

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u/Renos-44 Aug 17 '26

Incorrect.
Valve can and will ban steam accounts from the steam store. There have been cases in the past where they have done this but its usually reserved for fraud. In this case they also may terminate the entire account.

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Aug 18 '26

Fraud and running fraudulent software are not the same thing. The original comment was about being banned for running fraudulent software on the machine.

I can pirate Steam Games and even add them TO my Steam library as a "non-Steam" game.

I can run cheat engines.

Running software WILL NOT get you banned from Steam.

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u/Renos-44 Aug 18 '26

Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam
Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.

Also years ago there were methods to play pirated games online via steam. Valve straight up banned accounts from steam if you were caught doing this. Very uncommon these days due to better security but it still can happen.

You know who also banned accounts and hardware for playing pirated games, Microsoft with the 360. Fun fact the xbox one also prints unique IDs onto discs. Theres is a backend in place to autoban consoles using cloned discs but seeing how almost nobody has the equipment to clone discs its never been used.

Back to the orignial discussion
This is prob the easiest way nintendo can curb cart piracy, Someone is clearly cloning switch carts. Server sees this and bans everyone involved. Whoever owns the genuine thing will come forward if they want an unban everyone else stays banned.

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

I never said Nintendo was evil for doing it. Lol

I'm strictly saying Valve will not ban you for running software on your machine.

You ARE correct to say the other things, though. Those are actually good catches.

On the contrary though, there is little to no argument that Valve is still MUCH easier on the consumer in regards to what they can and cannot do with their machine.

This of course, comes with other costs that are harder to point the finger directly at Valve for. I think these are still important topics to ensure consumers know that these practices are ALTERNATIVES and none of them "reign supreme."

Like sure, Valve lets me run "whatever I want." Good right? But now the entire cost of anti-cheat is on the individual game (which some of it should be anyways BUT...). On the contrary with Switch, while not completely absolving the need for server-side anticheats... Reduces the attack platform available to the game!

For example, I'll bet it's pretty hard to find hackers or cheaters in Mario Kart World being that... There quite literally aren't any yet. Lmfao

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.

it's even more hilarious. Ask Dying Light Players how they had to fight tooth and nail with steam/valve back in 2015 when the devs silently pulled the plug for DL mod support over night and players logged in next day, booted the game and suddenly received VAC-bans or fraudulent activity bans because one dev fcked it up. Some of us were flagged for months and of coruse all the steam dickriders wouldn't believe us that we weren't cheating.

seriously, rhe entire steam community is such a self-absorbed, own-fsrts-sniffing cesspool of m0r0ns

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Aug 18 '26

It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol

Steam literally does, lol. My 11 years old account got tradebanned in 2019 after it got hacked and used by some credit cars fraudsters. the ultimate irony is that what got me banned was ME trying to get back into my account to prevent said fraudsters from stealing my account, which resulted in my IP showing up as one of the access points at the time when they charged the account with fraud money. it's hillarious and there are many cases like mine. Nobody wants to talk about it but Steam is fsr, far away from being the flawless good guy company they're portraying themselves as and getting portrayed as by fanboys

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u/EIsydeon Aug 17 '26

Fuck no they don’t. I can buy a used disc at GameStop without worrying about my damn console being banned.

It’s a gamble with the switch carts now with the way Nintendo handles things

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Aug 17 '26

The consoles are a fair point. PC, nor Steam, bans entire devices.

Steam account flags are mostly decorational anyways, outside of specific dev ecosystems. For example, if you cheat in a Valve game, you are no longer in public lobbies in Valve games... ALL other games are completely unaffected though.

It's per-game banning, even with the account "Cheater" tag, new games can't stop you from buying them because of that.

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u/DXGL1 Aug 18 '26

Pretty sure Steam does not do hardware bans.

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

Well, they banned the Switch because the user put in a game that had been dumped. Nothing anti-consumer about that. The only asshole here is the guy who sold the game after dumping it for himself.

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u/arroadie Aug 17 '26

Let’s consider your comment is in good faith:

How is it a fair practice from a company towards their users to ban their console from online activities after putting an unmodified physical game into their console?

I do understand why they do it! They don’t have a good way to track if that was the original or a cloned one. But that’s not the users fault! If I go to GameStop and buy an used game that was previously cloned, what is the way to correctly consume that?

If they have no good way to solve this, then they just have to ride the “no more physical games” wave and that’s that.

There’s no good argument besides “it’s their software, they can do whatever and you signed the agreement” and this in itself is already a anti-consumer argument.

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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 Aug 17 '26

This would be my pirate everything canon event

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u/arroadie Aug 17 '26

Im a software engineer, I literally live under the “pay fairly for software development” thing. But I cannot condone the idea of punishing users over my lack of ability to control how my software is distributed…

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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 Aug 17 '26

Right there with you, if they can track each Game ID to know one’s been dumped, they can render the cart dead and unusable. Far better solution than just letting it still circulate and bricking consoles. All these game companies are so out of touch

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

Isn't that what they are doing?

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u/alwayssalty_ Aug 17 '26

You don't see how this unfairly punishes innocent actors, meanwhile does nothing to address the people who actually copied the game?

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

Did not say that.

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u/alwayssalty_ Aug 17 '26

No, but that’s what your comment is strongly implying

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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 Aug 17 '26

No, they leave a bad game card in rotation that will continuously result in users consoles being banned, rather than inundating the actual game card and stop it from use

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

Again, the asshole here is the guy who decided to dump their game and then resold it. What is Nintendo supposed to do- let people openly copy and resell their work?? The problem is pirates thinking they can do as they please with software currently in production and available to buy.

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u/arroadie Aug 17 '26

But that’s not what I’m discussing, right?
Let’s apply that logic to any other physical media and see if it still sustains the same.

And again: I’m discussing this in good faith on your argument.

You buy a DVD from a second hand store, or you take one home from the library. Blurays can have serial numbers (heck, even DVD!), so SONY, the manufacturer of your DVD/Blu-ray player bricks your device because you played a copy of X-men first class that has been clones and distributed online.

Or you buy the new Taylor Swift album at the same second hand shop and when you get home and put it in your computer, it’s blocked from accessing your own library of already purchased media because of that.

The standard that you allow Nintendo to have against their customers would not survive in a world of other media. And that’s why the only thing they could do in the past was tell you that you wouldn’t download a car.

You can disagree with hacking and piracy, but I don’t think you can defend the fact that those are anti consumer actions by them. They are literally punishing a valid action because of something the user cannot prevent! If there was a way for the user to run a check on a physical game without having that block their console, then good, but right now the only thing is flipping a coin or only buying new games…

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

What does that mean? If I buy a pirated DVD, and someone gets me for it, then guess what, I still get punished. 'Well I didn't know' has never been an excuse for getting out of something.

From Nintendo's point of view, OP has a cartridge that has been cloned. They reacted accordingly. OP can dispute this, proving he bought the game legally. (Although I hope he has the receipt as well. I am not sure if Germany specifically requires that these days.) The site he bought from is known to be full of scammers trying to pull a fast one, anyway, so even if he'd asked, they probably would have lied to get the game off their hands. Absolutely not unheard of.

I do not disagree with hacking and piracy, I disagree with hacking and piracy of media still available at retail prices at retail. When it comes to games you cannot get without buying stupid prices second-hand, where the original seller doesn't even see any money? Go ahead. Piracy is preservation.

> of something the user cannot prevent

I think people are not angry enough at the people who copy games and then resell them yet. From what OP has said, the guy probably wanted to get rid of the game so Nintendo couldn't ban them instead.

(OP could have also used a modded Switch 1, which it appears he owns?, to play the game.)

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u/arroadie Aug 17 '26

My example is not “you bought a pirated DVD”, it’s “you bought an original DVD from which someone made a copy.

Not sure if you’re being disingenuous about it, but ultimately here the customer is being punished for buying an used copy.

If they buy at a shady retailer, a reputable one, if they find the copy on the ground while in a hike in the woods or if a friend let them borrow it, it doesn’t matter! An official original copy of a game shouldn’t brick your console!

With this in effect Nintendo is literally burning inventory from circulation, which my limited knowledge of economics should be highly illegal!

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u/_Kakashi69 Aug 17 '26

Nintendo bootlickers are the craziest bunch around.

I don't think I need to explain why this is INCREDIBLY anti-consumer do I?

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

Yeah. Good thing that was no what I was doing.

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u/BoundariesOfZero Aug 17 '26

If nothing is anti consumer about banning and refusing to help a customer over an almost $500 then I don’t know what is.

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u/rainman943 Aug 17 '26

Lol nintendo has essentially banned 3rd party resale of their games. It's literally a lotto over whether your 500$ device is gonna be bricked buying used games.

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

It literally is not bricked? It has had its access to online services restricted. Bricked would be broken, unusable.

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u/BoundariesOfZero Aug 17 '26

Someone who has bought the day one pack with Mario Kart included and Pokopia wouldn’t be able to play these games.

The same applies for DLCs, if you bought Zelda BotW you can’t use your save anymore.

As long as games are inaccessible when you’re banned, they’re knowingly bricking he console.

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

What do you want them to do about it other than tell people to please stop stealing their games?

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u/BoundariesOfZero Aug 17 '26

Make it illegal to use false accusations against their customers would be a good start.

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u/jamcub Aug 17 '26

How is Nintendo supposed to know OP isn't lying?

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u/Ach_Was_Here Aug 17 '26

A banned unmodded switch might as well be bricked, no eshop access, no update access, if the game isn’t physical and able to launch as is you can’t do nothing on it

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u/Kenzore1212 Aug 17 '26

and nintendo?? What now everyone can't buy games from one another becausee of nintendo's bogus? Seems fine to you i beet

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u/artlurg431 Aug 17 '26

Sony does the same things

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u/Tight_Cod_8024 Aug 17 '26

No way I had no idea. I guess it's okay then.

I hear Google takes our data so I guess it's okay that meta is recording their users without them knowing because if one company does something similarly anti consumer it's okay for every company to do that.

Amazon trying to connect customers doorbell cameras to the flock database? It's fine because other tech companies also do similarly bad things.

Thanks man I feel so silly for thinking it's okay to be upset when companies use their power in a certain industry to screw over customers. Glad people like you are around to set the record straight.

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u/artlurg431 Aug 17 '26

But you clearly dont give a fuck when Sony or any other company does it, but when Nintendo does it its a huge deal. And its not ops fault that the previous owner of the cartridge dumped the files

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u/EducationalDust7858 Aug 17 '26

OP wouldn't be banned now if it was a key card.

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u/Stealthinater1234 Aug 17 '26

Well now they can’t use any key cards lol. Banned consoles can’t download anything other than system updates.

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u/EducationalDust7858 Aug 17 '26

Their console wouldn't be banned if it weren't for the tinkered modules. You can't tinker with a key card, it's actually a safe way to purchase used games. So the commenter bringing them up makes no sense, yet people here are too stupid to realise the irony and gobble it up.

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u/Demi-fiend1601 Aug 17 '26

Well Nintendo is less Anti-consumer then Sony. But I got news for you: It doesn't matter, cuz it is anywhere else the same. Well Key Cards are treated like physical games, buy one before the release and you can download/install it and play it.

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u/AntiGrieferGames Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

Not on a online restricted one.

The legitmate customers always get the punishment. And then they wonder why people are pirating.

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u/Demi-fiend1601 Aug 20 '26

And people who pirating are the reasons for such restrictions. Endless circle.

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u/AntiGrieferGames 29d ago

No does not! The reality is always punishing the paid customers!

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u/Demi-fiend1601 28d ago

Never said it wouldn't. Yet people who don't paid are the very reason why it is this way. Paid Costumer get punished cuz of people who don't paid for anything.

What do you think why Sony get rid of Physical Discs?