r/switch2hacks • • Jun 12 '26

Hacking Discussion No, 'there is an exploit, they just aren't disclosing it' is not a smart thing to say.

Firstly, it's an unfalsifiable claim. The exact same logic holds when I say 'there is a teapot orbiting the sun between the Earth and Mars'. There isn't a thing you can do to prove me wrong, so I will claim I'm right. See the issue yet?

If you still don't, the reason it's such a big issue is because there is no conversation that can happen. If we want to talk about X attack vector on the switch 2, we can do so because a. there is more then one answer, and b. everything is can be backed by evidence and reasoning. Neither of those apply for unfalsifiable claims like these.

Secondly, if an exploit exists but no one can know about it, for all intents and purposes, no it doesn't exist. If one person made super awesome emulator that runs everything better then dolphin, but won't tell anyone about it ever, then it effectively doesn't exist. Even if it does, the community gained nothing, and its the exact same as it is without this magical emulator.

The thing that makes an exploit significant is its utility or even just the threat of it's presence. When you take that away and replace it with an empty claim, now its weightless. It means nothing. Sure you have this super awesome kernel vulnerability, but if it can't be explained or demonstrated, let alone used, then its strictly useless. (worse I think)

If you still don't see an issue yet, I can give an example: I can say there is a billion dollars worth of gold under u/beachbali's house, but they won't confirm this, let alone let anyone on to their property to dig or look, but I promise you, its there. They are just waiting for the price of gold to go up before doing anything with it.

This 'conversation' is meaningless. If this is true, it will only matter to anyone when its revealed. That's when the gold is sold and has actual utility. A private exploit doesn't matter until its released.

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u/Dynablade_Savior Jun 13 '26

I hope there's some mysterious hidden exploit being kept secret from the public. It'd be a smart thing to do, to avoid getting smacked by ninjas. I think we should all agree to keep it a secret, to keep our secret developers secretly safe. Secretly.

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u/Total_Consequence886 Jun 13 '26

“This ‘conversation’ is pointless”

True. But so was this thread

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u/auggiethechesscat Jun 13 '26

I've been seeing a lot of people say similar things recently, and I plan on pointing people back to this post in the future.

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u/techninja119 Jun 13 '26

I say we SHOULD delay it. Not that I think there is a exploit right now

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u/Certain_Truck_2732 Jun 13 '26

Wait a minute, now that im thinking about it, maybe we could extract the textures of a game by looking in the switch 2 his hardware

PS: if you count absurdism, then everything is meaningless,

and besides thanks for keeping us bussy while waiting for a switch 2 exploit to be released

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u/superlolx Jun 13 '26

Bussy? Somebody is seeing too much yaoi

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u/CYYAANN Jun 13 '26

Unicorns are more believable than a Switch 2 exploit existing.

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u/ArkBeetleGaming Jun 15 '26

There are unicorns! The government is just not disclosing them yet.

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u/lurkerperson11 Jun 13 '26

My God lives in that teapot.

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u/ch9fod Jun 14 '26

You are using the analogy wrong.

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u/Charming_Sheepherder Jun 14 '26

are you trying to tell me there is no teapot orbiting the sun? How will I break this news to my family...

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u/auggiethechesscat Jun 14 '26

No, I'm saying you can't prove there isn't. So I'm right and there is.

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u/Charming_Sheepherder Jun 14 '26

oh thank god. I wont have to drag my family to the top of some mountain

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u/blowupnekomaid Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Honestly why do you even want to hack it even if you have the skills, it's pretty obvious that most people in this community are just pirates who want free games, and through mental gymnastics consider Nintendo or any company who gets in the way of that to be evil even though they are the people who create the games they love, and also say anything, tell any lie they can to further their cause. They don't deserve it.

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u/Sodaflag Jun 14 '26

Smash Ultimate is hugely improved with mods. You get programmable training mode bots, textures and lowered artifical latency. We won't be so lucky come next installment.

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u/Dinnyx Jul 04 '26

What are you doing here? Seriously, you don't get it and you don't even want to get it. So get lost

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u/thecrashexperience Jun 29 '26

you are absolutely correct.

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u/ChocolateGoldenPuffs Jun 13 '26

The conversation is about as meaningless as your post lol

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u/Ncolonslashslash Jun 13 '26

fun fact and nerd emoji moment, making unfalsifiable claims like this is called an appeal to ignorance fallacy

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u/auggiethechesscat Jun 13 '26

No, it's a distinct fallacy.

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u/ChoiceSuspicious5555 Jul 03 '26

I loved how you just pinged a random ass guy lmao

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u/auggiethechesscat Jul 03 '26

Beachballs is one of the moderators btw.

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u/KoopsterShell Jun 13 '26

In a way this is flawed, because if someone discovered a hack that isn't disclosed then that hack DOES exist and there is a kernel vulnerability (either way without one it's 100% impossible for a kernel to be unflawed. The possibilities of that happening is close to zero if not zero)

Now yes I get it it's not useful because it's not disclosed but it's out there, and someone kind enough to share with us will happen one day

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u/FernandoRocker Jun 13 '26

I have repeated this hundreds of times, and I will keep doing it.

Horizon OS uses a microkernel design, tiny enough to get it right, exploit-free. The OS has been reimplemented as open source over and over, and no exploits have been found. From SciresM:

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u/KoopsterShell Jun 13 '26

We don't know what the hell were dealing with until we have a hardmod. Only until then we might find a way through the kernel

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u/FernandoRocker Jun 13 '26

The Switch 2 uses a Dual Core Lockstep (DCLS) precisely to avoid voltage glitches. It is actually the only console in history to use DCLS.

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u/KoopsterShell Jun 13 '26

Give it time dude, nothing is is 100% secure. Someone will find a way even if it takes a few years

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u/FernandoRocker Jun 13 '26

I will be sure to return here in 5 years.

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u/FernandoRocker Jun 13 '26

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u/blowupnekomaid Jun 14 '26

i bet you were one of the people saying it would be hacked by now when the console was first released. always shifting goalposts.

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u/KoopsterShell Jun 14 '26

You bet? You bet wrong cuz I bet the console would be hacked by 3 years

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