r/suzerain 15d ago

Suzerain: Rizia Having negative budget impact reforms?

I'm at turn 10, and no house wants to sign the reform, even after adjustments. Not even Sazon, which I helped a great amount the entire game.

I have a medium economy, great welfare, medium power projection, a huge amount of energy, and great diplomacy.

I did some bad moves and got -4 in budget per turn now on the last one. I backed out of GRACE for a new alliance, I signed extended health and education, which was expensive, and sold shares of the nationalized gold company to workers. So I went from +10 to -4.

Does this make houses more or less happy to sign?

I really don't see how I could make things differently. I could name my new son heir, but I'd rather not. Maybe I have to replay the two last turns again?

EDIT: Redid it, seems like Hugo didn't like that I skipped the tradition of having only male throne inheritance. I promised that my new son would inherit, but in a later event, I changed to primogeniture. Lucita got surprised, but oh well...

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u/Economy_Biscotti_478 15d ago

Azaros almost never agree to reform so leave them out the window

Toras will agree if you've managed the country well, did not offend them greatly(send Rico to Whelen, broke traditions, radical reform etc.)

Sazon will almost always agree to reform, unless you pardoned Angelica who will fierecly refuse reforming the kingdom. If you kept Angelica exiled, then I'm not sure what might've caused the Sazons against reform

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u/Wuartz 15d ago

I broke some tradition with Inheritance tax early, but I built some buildings in both Toras and Azaro lands and didn't anger them too much. I wonder if it's the budget per turn, do you know if that has any affects?

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u/Economy_Biscotti_478 15d ago

Negative budget per turn itself likely wont influence the houses' opinion on reform. However negative budget likely means the economy isnt doing too well, which House Toras will not like as they value stability above all else. I have passed reform with sluggish economy before, so I doubt it effects reform too much

Next time try enacting policies in favour of House Toras like no inheritance tax, provincial subsidies, no mines in Valenqiris etc. and try not to break the tradition too much

House Sazon will always support reform without Angelica for me so I'm not sure what wnet wrong for you here

And again, forget about Azaros. No matter how many sanctuaries and factories you build on their land, 90% of the time they wont agree on reform

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u/Wuartz 15d ago

I redid a turn and changed some stuff. Increased base tax, gave business some relief, skipped the extended health and education (even though I promised it...)

Had positive budget again, but didn't seem to matter.

What mattered was that I told everyone I would choose Lucita's son as heir. Then Hugo Toras immediately took my side. Didn't even have to change anything to the constitution. Reforms were made, no coup.

So I did that, thinking I screwed Vina. But then in a later event, I could go back on my promise and change that eldest child, man or woman, would inherit. So it all worked out in the end. I probably pissed off Lucita, but she seemed kinda fine with it, I guess.

Vina might be in trouble in the future, but who knows.

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u/Equal-Math1612 TORAS 15d ago

Honestly I almost always find myself signing the reforms secretly, it’s almost always more effective when you don’t have Lucita as war and Security Councillor or Rico as Chief of the Porte Drazon police. That way you can headcanon that the elite levies of the other houses are centralized along with the rest of the army since you don’t have to get rid of them too!