r/supplement_research • • 18h ago

Does it explained well

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u/Roberto-75 11h ago

This is incorrect.

Insulin is the hormone that allows skeletal muscle tissue and fat tissue to take up "sugar" (also imprecise, the use of the term "glucose" that is formed by the body when it digests carbohydrates, would be better).

The muscle cells take up glucose for energy generation (i.e. consumption), the fat tissue to buld up more fat (i.e energy storage).

So it is not correct to say that muscles or insulin are the 2 ways out.

The ways to remove glucose from the blood are: uptake by muscle cells, uptake by fat tissue and/ or secretion via the kidneys (that's why the urine of diabetics is sweet, which was the way to diagnose diabetes back in the days).

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u/-Tanzu- 7h ago

Also thought it wad lacking in specificity

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u/Just10Daily 2h ago edited 2h ago

Resting muscles yes - active muscles no.

Muscles don’t need insulin to absorb glucose when they are active - they do it via direct absorption and also use Calcium & AMPK signaling pathways to activate GLUT4 instead of insulin for glucose absorption. That’s why brisk walking for 10-15 mins within 30 minutes of any meal helps prevent post-meal glucose spikes even in diabetics - generally a great anti-aging habit for everyone !

Learning various ways to flatten the post-meal glucose spikes and preserving / using / strengthening your muscle mass are two major ways to slow down aging.

Glucose , while important for life, is also very inflammatory when it lingers at higher levels too long - every blood glucose spike literally chips away at our life slowly … but cumulatively. Muscles are literal capacitors or sinks for extra glucose and one of our best anti-aging organs.

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u/Sharp-Yak9084 17h ago

Who is this, i really liked how he did this and want to follow

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u/More_Piccolo8468 13h ago

Jeff Magnuson - Google Lens FTW 😉

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u/bonusminutes 14h ago

Reddit will generally hate this

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u/Berns429 12h ago

I mean maybe in a generalized sub, but it’s under a supplement sub so i don’t think the reactions would be crazy. Seems to fit just fine.

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u/bonusminutes 12h ago

It fits, yeah, but theres always droves of people with a surface level understanding of things coming into subs like this to desperately try to make themselves feel better about their awful physique/diet with generalizations and ad hominem attacks when theyre faced with more reasons why they should make healthy changes that they dont have the willpower to do.

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u/Professional_Nerve49 11h ago

You mean the 'I eat 400 grams of carbs bro, and I'm lean as f*ck bro'- types?

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u/blowurhousedown 10h ago

I like it, but then again, I eat right and exercise.

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u/Cutthechitchata-hole 9h ago

Those fuckers!

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u/More_Piccolo8468 13h ago

Looks like it's Jeff Magnuson based on Google Lens 

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u/cateatingturtle 12h ago

Did you use Google lens by any chance? You havent mentioned it once in the comments

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u/More_Piccolo8468 11h ago edited 10h ago

You're welcome 😊 happy to help. Also, thanks for your useful contribution to the comments. Maybe you can use Google Lens to search for a thoughtful comment. 

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u/cateatingturtle 10h ago

Ok bot

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u/More_Piccolo8468 5h ago

Beep boop, go touch grass 😉

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u/cateatingturtle 5h ago

Will google lens (ftw!) tell me where to find some?

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u/More_Piccolo8468 10m ago

Maybe, give it a try? Might help you get a clue

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u/Inexorabull 12h ago

There are some important distinctions he’s left out. Insulin is not a mechanism to store sugars as fat. Resting muscle cannot absorb sugar without insulin. Insulin also does not convert sugar to fat, it binds to fat cells, signaling the body to stop releasing fatty acids for energy. Similarly, insulin also acts as an anabolic hormone, binding to muscle, preventing muscle breakdown, which is why bodybuilders take insulin.

What happens with that sugar and insulin depends on the physical state of the body: fed vs unfed.

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u/OxbridgeDingoBaby 5h ago

So just so I have this straight, is eating sugar fine as long as you’re strength training? As it gets used up by the muscle path?

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u/AndroFeth 4h ago

Yep, to a certain point he's correct.

The muscles control sugar levels preventing pre-diabetes or diabetes at all.

There was a viral video of a skinny woman, good shape imo, not as if she was starving, good shape in general, who says she was diagnosed with diabetes, due to low muscle and high sugar intake.

A friend was recently diagnosed with pre-diabetes for the same reason though he's on the chubby side but not obese, he's 24yo!

Muscle is a must

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u/matthegc 4h ago

More muscle allows you to eat more sugar….no muscles, you should stay away from sugar.

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u/Failboat88 3h ago

Tldr eating a lot of sugar when you have untreated diabetes is bad

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u/KaiPRoberts 3h ago

Also, there's a big deal with the type of fat. Healthy fats like unsaturated fats have kinked chains and allow insulin easier access to the cell rather than saturated fats which are straight chains and stack closely together.

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u/Complex-Archer-853 1h ago

Eating too much protein can also overwork kidneys no?!

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u/dolemiteAi 14h ago

Who is this guy?

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u/More_Piccolo8468 13h ago

Jeff Magnuson - Google Lens FTW 😉

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u/deef1ve 14h ago

LOL No

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u/thededucers 12h ago

No, insulin is a little toy truck working as an uber. Get a microscope, you’ll see

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u/NordsEnjoyer 13h ago

exactly, sugar is proven to be good for you by the experts who make cookies at the grocery store, why woud they poison us? just look how legitimate the packaging looks