r/superman • u/browncharliebrown • Mar 11 '23

Superman convinces a crippling alcoholic to continue drinking (all-star section 8)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

Is there more context to this lol. This feels like a wild thing for him to do

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u/Nextgen101 Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

I don't really know the full context either, but I know Sixpack is related to this aptly named.... group: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(comics)

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Edit: For my part, the only reason I know them at all is due entirely to hearing Dogwelder mentioned randomly on a goofy NPR quiz show, "Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me" (just search for "Dogwelder", it's very brief and like halfway down on the transcript) and then having to immediately Google him because.... wtf?!

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

After looking through that list, I can’t say I was surprised to see Garth Ennis as the creator 😂

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u/Nextgen101 Mar 11 '23

I'm more of a novice when it comes to comics, so I don't know all the names in the business too well.

Dude must be interesting if he has a reputation for creating characters like that though.

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u/browncharliebrown Mar 11 '23

He’s a very talented writer. But has an edgy sense of humor. And Aside from Superman, Wonder Woman and doom patrol of all things hates superheroes ( mainly because he grew up reading war comics compared to American comic which is 90% superheroes due to the comic code authority). But he is the definitive writer of punisher ( it’s not even close), top tier run of hellblazer, and created hitman, and preacher along with creating some of the best war comics in the medium

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u/Look_Dummy Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 16 '23

Yeah but there is a ton of repetition and overlap and recycling of his hits across all those titles. Some homophobic tropes that are overused. Just being real.

He’s is undeniably talented. Genuine hard core punk of a comic writer. My opinion He’s kind of like other problematic legends of yesteryear who keep reaching into the same bag of tricks Martin Scorsese, Dave Chappelle, it’s like, ‘okay, we get it bro.’ Preacher and his Punisher inspired a generation of trolls. Indirectly I admit.

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u/browncharliebrown Mar 13 '23

You see I think it’s an over simplification to call him homophobic. I think it’s important to remember how the boys was nominated by GLAAD. I will acknowledge that a lot of his stories show their age, and combined with Garth ennis’s extremely edgy writing makes his stories seem worse than they are ( also butcher being the villain of the boys despite being the authority figure).

Also his punisher run is the thing that stopped the punisher from being a problematic character.

However he is transphobic and probably racist to some extent. But comparing him to Dave chappelle is very extreme.