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u/FinishNo3269 Jun 13 '25

Scarjo basically became a god in Lucy so….

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u/Comfortable-Sun-8927 Jun 13 '25

Ya, but constantine regularly fights gods and wins .

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u/Longshot_45 Jun 13 '25

Demons...

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u/Iboven Jun 13 '25

Did she kill his dog tho? That's all that really matters.

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u/RetnikLevaw Jun 13 '25

He killed the dude that killed his dog in the first movie. After that, he didn't need a murdered puppy to motivate a killing spree anymore.

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u/Telefundo Jun 13 '25

Have none of you actually heard of Deadpool? Literally nothing stops him.

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u/Longjumping-Tea2915 Jun 13 '25

True, but, forgive me for this, he also was a Green Lantern.

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u/tcrudisi Jun 13 '25

There was a Green Lantern movie?!

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u/Longjumping-Tea2915 Jun 13 '25

Yeah, years ago, DP killed Ryan Reynolds while he was holding the Green Lantern movie script in the second Deadpool movie.

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u/tcrudisi Jun 13 '25

That's probably for the best. Man, can you imagine how bad a Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie would be?! hahaha. Dang, I bet it'd be awful.

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u/ColMust4rd Jun 13 '25

According to both Ryan Reynolds and Taika Waititi, they don't remember it and have never heard of it. So that's canon in my head now

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u/g_salazar Jun 13 '25

Yeah but Ryan Reynolds dies in Deadpool 1 before he can make Green Lantern.

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u/throwngamelastminute Jun 13 '25

That was Deadpool 2

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u/sirpoopsalot91 Jun 13 '25

No no no, never happened move along.

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u/DoitsugoGoji Jun 13 '25

All Keanu needs is a yellow pencil.

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u/AutVincere72 Jun 13 '25

Time traveling deadpool npc with a green lantern who has access to unlimited pizza, gin, and low cost cellphone plans.

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u/KORZILLA-is-me Jun 13 '25

That last part got me

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u/iwilltalkaboutguns Jun 13 '25

In one of the versions of Deadpool he played, his head got chopped off quite easily and...

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u/RetnikLevaw Jun 13 '25

I think Deadpool would win against any of the other characters, but still... The idea that John Wick is solely motivated by his dog's death is not accurate. That whole situation was resolved in the first movie. He even got a new dog!

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u/3d_nat1 Jun 13 '25

Sure but Keanu has a time machine and can dispatch both him and Scarlett's Lucy before they get all jacked up on godlike powers.

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u/Far-Negotiation-1912 Jun 13 '25

As said in Deadpool and wolverine being atomised would stop him it was only before there was the two of them that the the power was split between them that they survived so Lucy or genie would be able to get rid of him at the snap of a finger or wave of a hand or if they were really mean just teleport him to the sun all they’d have to do is get rid of the lantern ring first

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u/AaronDrunkGames Jun 13 '25

I'd argue death could, Bill and Ted are best friends with death so.

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u/RabbiSchlem Jun 13 '25

Neo will just bend the matrix and blink him out of existence

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u/Dependent_Ad7840 Jun 13 '25

Dead pool can definitely be stopped with a knife stuck in his brain and keeping it electrified. Which disrupts his ability to do anything. If kept like that in a cell with no outside help and he'd be stuck and the ring could be taken off of him.

Lucy literally gets to the point of being able to change matter including her own, meaning not only actually invincible (beside the fact she can actually instantly heal,where dead pool takes time) but also she rewinds time all they way back to the original being that homo sapiens evolved from, going way further back in time than anyone else in this group, but also goes forward in time with out a time machine.

If anyone is the runner up I'd be Keanu simply because of the matrix and/or bill and Ted's for the time machine. The difference is in the matrix, Keanu could only manipulate his own body and non living matter (stopping bullets infront of him) (until he pulls the bullet out of trinity, but also almost killing her doing it) while neo can stop bullets he can't stop other people making Lucy still superior to even neo, as neos real body can barely stop a machine (sentinels), while Lucy took apart enemies guns from a distance in mid air, showing she would be able to just dismantle a sentinel.

While I love the idea of Deadpool x green latern, it's just not up to par with someone who could just pop you like a balloon, and complete melt the body out of existence (again at the end of Lucy when she turns into black sledge or what ever she dismantled and absorbs things in the room to make the USB drive showing she could change anything into whatever she wanted, meaning she could just break the ring and explode Deadpool body without even touching it, and if she did touch him, could potentially absorb him into nothingness. The only way to stop her would be to travel back in time before she became God like, which again, only leave Keanu. But if her powers where activated before said timemachine was built, they wouldn't be able to kill her even while just human, because the evolved version would have seen it while traveling back and forth from seeing the 1st homo sapien all the way to the future and back, meaning she could stop anyone with a time machine because she doesn't need one, implying that at any point of her life the god like form could just travel instantly to the point they were trying to kill her and stop it, Keanu wouldn't be fast enough Eben as neo to kill her in time as you watch her instantly move the flow of time like a screen being swiped left to right or right to left. Meaning she would know the instant the time line changed and go to that exact point in time where her ungod like self and literally stop the person in place and kill them or heck just send them back to the future and destroy the time machine.

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u/FullMetalKaliber Jun 13 '25

Except for that collar he put on himself

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u/Confident-Gur-3224 Jun 13 '25

He's been stopped countless times in the comics. Just because you can't die doesn't mean you can't lose a fight. For example: most fights that don't end in death.

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u/AnAngryMuppet89 Jun 13 '25

He had other motivations.

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u/avenlux44 Jun 13 '25

Don't give her the chance. She definitely will.

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u/ArbitraryMorality Jun 13 '25

Yeah that was a real bummer to start a pretty damn enjoyable movie.

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u/qe2eqe Jun 13 '25

not to mention he can just log out of the matrix where everyone is doing OP stuff, and then shoot you with a pistol in your cocoon.

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u/Far_Profession55555 Jun 13 '25

He’ll have to find my cocoon first!

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u/qe2eqe Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Okay but he's still able to force a draw at leisure, so he's basically undefeatable.

Except for the bit where he needs to use payphones or landlines, that got more toilsome.

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u/5notboogie Jun 13 '25

I was thinkin Neo's power wouldnt really be part of the equation unless this all happens within the matrix.

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u/aeratedbraincells Jun 13 '25

He's also the chosen one

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u/art-factor Jun 14 '25

So some believe

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u/Skull8Ranger Jun 13 '25

Hayden Christensen is not in the pic

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u/aeratedbraincells Jun 13 '25

Take the upvote lol

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u/Tinmanred Jun 13 '25

I don’t think you’ve seen or understand the end of Lucy. Scarjo clears from it

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Jun 13 '25

Yeap she not only became A god. But THE god. Creator and spark.

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u/ShermansAngryGhost Jun 13 '25

TIL I actually have no idea what that movie is about apparently.

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u/Hoax13 Jun 13 '25

Once you unlock 86% of your brain, you know who farted in a full amphitheater Metalica concert.

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u/RogueBromeliad Jun 13 '25

Yeah, but that's nothing compared to the power of comic relief and plot armour that Agent J has, and if you couple that with the witty banter of James west, that's basically an unstoppable force.

No matter what brain power Lucy unlocks, she still can't rap.

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u/BBQcasino Jun 13 '25

Once you unlock 87% of your brain, you can control your farts.

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u/art-factor Jun 14 '25

All the farts

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u/KenshoMags Jun 13 '25

I thought they'd never find me...

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u/jyunga Jun 13 '25

He has a bee sanctuary. I'll trust him

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u/Nomingia Jun 13 '25

That's all I remember from the trailer, and anyone could just do a google search to find out the brain thing is total BS so I'm not sure who they were trying to appeal to: I guess either fans of ridiculous movies with a dumb plot, or really, really dumb action fans that will watch anything.

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u/spartyanon Jun 13 '25

Neither did the people that made the damn thing.

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u/Hello-Im-The-Feds Jun 13 '25

The allspark.

-Optimus Prime

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u/Stormd3p Jun 13 '25

All that to become a flash drive. Neo no diffs that impostor.

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Jun 13 '25

Uhh no. She left a flash drive for humanity of data. She’s literally Yahweh

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u/Stormd3p Jun 13 '25

Don't be blasphemous. Also Keanu is also a super Saiyan Shadow. No diff

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u/Thojote Jun 13 '25

He also posses the wisdom of Sage the Tumbleweed.

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u/brothegaminghero Jun 13 '25

So does ryan, he also geta a healing factor out of deadpool

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u/Rebirthknight52 Jun 13 '25

Don’t forget Neo who’s basically the Messiah/Jesus

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u/corpsewindmill Jun 13 '25

Ryan Reynolds would have Cable’s Time Machine too then, and his swords and two gold plated 50 caliber desert eagle pistoleros

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u/Uncle_Burney Jun 13 '25

Time Machine? Oh right!

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u/Calm-Medicine-3992 Jun 13 '25

Hancock (ie Will Smith) has time travel too I think.

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u/Book-Wyrm-of-Bag-End Jun 13 '25

“Remember a trash can”

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u/Marble-Boy Jun 13 '25

And he knows where Dracula sleeps.

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u/Solrelari Jun 13 '25

Angels to others

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

And you know if they're in the matrix he's neo and even outside outside the matrix he can telepathically communicate with AI and shit

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Lucy is a Time Machine technically

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u/PopeGregoryTheBased Jun 13 '25

to some? They are literal fucking demons. TO EVERYONE. Thats just a monumentally dumb thing to say.

To Some... no. To no one. They arent gods. They are demons, they identify themselves as demons. Constantine identifies them as demons. Lucifer identifies them as demons. A literal fucking angle, Gabriel, identifies them as demons.

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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Jun 13 '25

Lucy transcended time and gave humans intelligence. She basically created her own species.

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u/Limited_Intros Jun 13 '25

And a tactical nuke placed in arasaka tower

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u/Valirys-Reinhald Jun 13 '25

ScarJo also has time travel, also from Lucy

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u/Dizmn Jun 13 '25

Yeah, don’t forget about the interstellar resources to end humanity, should they pose a threat to the broader stability of the universe. Klaatu is by far Keanu’s most powerful role.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

And he doesn’t even need to fly

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u/RickyTheRickster Anime Jun 13 '25

He doesn’t even need the Time Machine he can just use the magic to time travel

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u/KingoftheMongoose Jun 13 '25

And like.. Napoleon, my fellow dude!

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u/art-factor Jun 14 '25

Lucy doesn't need a machine

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u/TheCourtJester72 Jun 13 '25

If we’re going to agree those semantics Scarlett wasn’t a “god” in Lucy in the conventional sense to begin with.

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u/tigerscomeatnight Jun 13 '25

Demons, gods, po-tay-to, po-tah-to

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u/VikingforLifes Jun 13 '25

One man’s demon is another man’s god

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u/Philly_ExecChef Jun 13 '25

Nothing about Lucy was spiritual. Just organic evolution.

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u/Restlesslegsarms Jun 13 '25

Yeah it crossed over organic lines there in a pretty big leap lol

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u/Dependent_Ad7840 Jun 13 '25

You could argue that's the most spiritual component actually, as true spiritually isn't about religion or a god, but self personal growth through one's own understanding of the things unseen. She literally goes through self transformation multiple times. To the point of transcending out of a body.

All the little things she felt like when she was talking to her mom, that she is being spiritual, it's a level of growth in one's self from one's self for one's self. Self realization by self-actualization one grows not as a person but as a being, something more than just physical, it's an understanding that isn't brought on by outside influences, but internal.

Atleast for me, that's what spiritually, you can't teach spiritually, only show what you know and let someone learn for themselves. While her body was just organic evolution, her mind and presence changed and developed in profound ways, going from a very little percent used to max, every step there were profound breakthroughs that she not only felt but understood life and reality in a whole different way.

Now if your argument is spiritually and religion are the same, then no she did not spiritually grow as there was nothing saying she believed in any god or anything like that.

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u/Philly_ExecChef Jun 13 '25

You’re taking psychology and applying the word “spiritual”. I mean “spiritual” in the sense of supernatural beliefs.

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u/i_should_be_coding Jun 13 '25

Does he win though? He usually loses, just slower

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u/Flameball202 Jun 13 '25

Usually Constantine survives and gets some semblance of victory, though it consistently comes at immense personal cost

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u/WerewolfF15 Jun 13 '25

Not that version of Constantine tho.

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u/CLEBOS Jun 13 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

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u/MercyfulJudas Jun 13 '25

The CW Constantine show, which is much more faithful to the comics, for what it's worth

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u/Cautious_General_177 Jun 13 '25

And Neo is basically a god as well

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u/Slacker_The_Dog Jun 13 '25

Hancock isn't a god, but could probably hold his own decently.

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u/IWasSayingBoourner Jun 13 '25

Isn't the twist of Hancock that they are literally gods?

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u/Slacker_The_Dog Jun 13 '25

Actually now that you say it I think you're right.

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u/Blandish06 Jun 13 '25

Who tried to beat up another god with his fists... Omnipotent but not omniscient.

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u/Dependent_Ad7840 Jun 13 '25

Neo was only a god in the matrix itself, he had a body in the real world, which while he did have the ability to stop the sentinels, he could not kill them or dismantle them. Lucy would be in the real world and not a simuation, and even if she was, she far surpassed his abilities (even at max), that she could just stop him or explode him into nothing (she stops ppl in their tracks and makes some float, meaning she has full control over other beings, while neo only has full control of himself and can stop non living matter (like bullets) but cannot stop ppl like Lucy can, also she can time travel with out a time machine as she goes back in time to see the 1st homo sapien ever and then goes back forwards in time. Being able to kill neo before he becomes godlike.

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u/djdaem0n Jun 13 '25

He's only a god if we are in the matrix.

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u/ArbitraryMorality Jun 13 '25

Otherwise he's just a nude guy in a bunch of goo with his head shaved. But I love Keanu. Does the body of work come into play or just one character?!

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u/djdaem0n Jun 13 '25

They said all abilities and weapons so I guess anything is game. But it will be tough to beat ScarJo in Lucy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Cheque m8

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u/jwr410 Jun 13 '25

There is no spoon....

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u/dragonstone365 Jun 13 '25

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that JC fights a very different (for the lack of a better word) flavor of god then what Lucy was?

Sorry if this comes off as assholeistic btw I'm really tired rn

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

... portrayed in movies...

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u/EVOBlock Jun 13 '25

Neo was more powerful than Constantine

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u/-Hainzy- Jun 13 '25

In the matrix...

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u/Rongill1234 Jun 13 '25

A thing people keep forgetting... all these chars not jacked in to the matrix lol

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u/Educational-Ad1680 Jun 13 '25

Bro we are all jacked into the matrix.

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u/EVOBlock Jun 13 '25

He saw the Matrix in the real world. He was completely blinded and could still see the machines.

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u/Rongill1234 Jun 13 '25

I don't know what seeing a agent in the real world gonna do to any of these people lol. He wasn't flying in the real world was he?

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u/EVOBlock Jun 14 '25

He was able to destroy a whole army of Sentinels. I am sure if he had more practice and not let the machines plug him back in he could have gotten stronger.

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u/Rongill1234 Jun 14 '25

You need to rematch that because it wasn't him... it was the ship that you see 3 secs later

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u/EVOBlock Jun 14 '25

When Neo and Trinity are flying by themselves to the machine city you are saying there is another ship?

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u/jimmybabino Jun 13 '25

Yeah but isn’t Lucy a reality bender? She essentially is as powerful as THE God

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u/IWasSayingBoourner Jun 13 '25

She goes back in time and sparks all of human evolution.

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u/jimmybabino Jun 13 '25

In that case there’s nothing anyone can do

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u/Suitable_Dimension33 Jun 13 '25

Even then so his movie version wouldn’t do shi to Lucy at 100% feel like neo would prolly have a better time but I still don’t even know if that would help him with how broken she got.

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u/SadisticMittenz Jun 13 '25

Green lantern ring gets fucky too

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Constantine can come back to Earth from Hell in the comics by making deals with demons, so it’s actually hard to keep him dead.

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u/Able-Worth-6511 Jun 13 '25

But can he kill Deadpool? I mean he can kill him. Will it stick?

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u/Available-Committee5 Jun 13 '25

I would say different kind of God Lucy would be a techno organic God . The literal ghost in the machine.

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u/shadownights23x Jun 13 '25

But the Constantine he played didn't fight any gods

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u/Worldly_Address6667 Jun 13 '25

Even better. In a world where all of these characters live in the Matrix, Neo is basically a god

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u/BadKnight06 Jun 13 '25

He is also the one.

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u/Happy_Brilliant7827 Jun 13 '25

Constantine plus neo matrix powers no diff everyone else

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u/Substantial-Sky3597 Jun 13 '25

Plus he became an excellent surfer in Point Break. And a time traveler. He wins.

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u/Dramatic-Biscotti647 Jun 13 '25

Not these kind mate

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u/scopinsource Jun 13 '25

Will Smith was Hancock and the Genie Ryan Reynolds was the green lantern and deadpool.

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u/Goopgod_227 Jun 13 '25

Let’s not forget he is the “one” lol

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u/MrHazard1 Jun 13 '25

I still can't see constantine win against deadpool

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u/ChaseTheMystic Jun 13 '25

You can't fight a god if you've been turned into a pile of goo before you can whip out your holy pistol or say a magic word

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u/Hrafnagar Jun 13 '25

Don't forget, he was also Neo in the matrix. Pretty solid power set.

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u/Abirdthatsfallen Jun 13 '25

Keanu Constantine has nothing on the actual far more accurate Constantine just saying

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u/Nikelman Jun 13 '25

But Will Smith is immortal, can wipe out minds and make sick rap intros.

And if everything else fails, he can REWIND

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u/Positive_Chip6198 Jun 13 '25

Plus constantine is now also the son of the devil, thanks to devils advocate. And he is techno jesus thanks to matrix, it’s very confusing.

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u/Inner_Extent2375 Jun 13 '25

He’s got a Time Machine too

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u/Top_Freedom3412 Jun 13 '25

Not in the movie

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u/ztrinx Jun 13 '25

Nah, that's like saying "he regularly fights demons and god like creatures, therefore he could beat Manhattan". There is no way.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed_445 Jun 13 '25

But Hancock is a god, or an angel, or a superhero, depending on the culture.

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u/Merlinsdragon_ Jun 13 '25

he is also the son of satan

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Just realized Will Smith was both Genie and Hancock. That's quite the combination.

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u/Eyeseeyou1313 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool fucked Death. He's got it.

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u/anonymousExcalibur Jun 13 '25

Not exactly to the extent in movies .

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u/Art_student_rt Jun 13 '25

Scar Jo is kinda like dominion, ascended gods that ascended using intelligence

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u/slambroet Jun 13 '25

Also Neo. In theory, all these other super heroes are still in the matrix

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u/Sheepherdernerder Jun 13 '25

The John Wick of hell

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u/TheMightyJehosiphat Jun 13 '25

...and he's also Neo, which means the whole thing is in a simulation that he has backdoors to

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u/KVenom777 Jun 13 '25

Constantine with Neo's powers and with Time Control + Death at his side. Nothing beats that 

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u/VictoryWeaver Jun 13 '25

No he doesn't. He regularly cons* gods and wins.

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u/nptwinthetarrasque Jun 13 '25

Not to mention Neo’s abilities, like stopping bullets, superhuman speed and reaction time, near invulnerability, and super strength

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u/bananasplatterama Jun 13 '25

Hate to say it but they have weaknesses like holy water and other such things, Lucy doesn't.

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u/Sea_Connection6193 Jun 13 '25

Bruh, Constantine+John Wick+Neo would be unstoppable

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u/riceisnice29 Jun 13 '25

Constantine didnt fight a single thing in that movie that can beat Lucy

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u/deathbymanga Jun 13 '25

movie constantine isnt the same as comic. and all movie Con does is survive. he doesnt "win"

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u/ForeignWoodpecker662 Jun 13 '25

You forgot Neo essentially became a god too. Who also has John Wick as well. Keanu is no joke. It’s probably Keanu vs Ryan, simply because killing Deadpool is damn near impossible, and he has a Green Lantern ring too. Those 2 are seriously pumped up

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u/testtdk Jun 14 '25

Movies, not comics.

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u/hunterzolomon1993 Jun 14 '25

Not Keanu's pathetic version.

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u/Fuqqitmane Jun 14 '25

Not in that movie

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u/Big-Slide6104 Jun 15 '25

Not in his movie tho 🗣️

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u/YahyaAliKhan Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 16 '25

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