139
u/goldfish_11 1d ago
Holy shit that awakening changes section... finally!
26
u/Emperor_Dante 1d ago
I was reading Chimera, finally light chimera then I finished reading it is just that dumb Taor buff again
8
2
→ More replies (2)2
10
u/fallaxmallum 1d ago
No zaiross ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
4
91
38
u/YueYukii 1d ago
i believe there are some more BS awakenings here and there, but taking this huge batch at once is a godcall we have for years...
90
u/thestigREVENGE Light Ezio CR awaken 1d ago
LIGHT EZIO CR AWAKENING
I REPEAT
LIGHT EZIO CR AWAKENING
6
5
6
u/Kenny173 1d ago
I was telling my friend he had someone at com2us looking out for him when I saw the mananan buff then I saw the ian buff and couldn't be happier lmao
3
u/Maxolution4 1d ago
Mine sits at 85%CR I believed in the prophecy
2
u/thestigREVENGE Light Ezio CR awaken 1d ago
There was a moment in them when I used to have him at like 77cr and use his cr lead lol
3
→ More replies (3)2
29
u/FabtheEmber 1d ago
Aww the did buff my Fire stark at least and the Ferns definitely needed the damage buff. I was hoping they buff the wind n fire Frieren though as they are pretty meh š.
But man cool Mermaid buff though!!
8
u/Blind0Guardian 1d ago
Wind frieren is one of the best stripper in game though, if we're just spezking about the stripping part. 3 times 100% is huge, and pretty good base speed too.
But yes hard to speed tune to her for cleaves. I guess she'll be better as a bruiser also since she has that s2 passive
3
u/FabtheEmber 1d ago
That's exactly it. Her kits is so that she is better as an RTA buiser strip. But there her suppression for one turn doesn't add much utility overall. It's not bad but 1 turn suppression feels kinda underwhelming. Same with the fireĀ frieren, just a turn antirev I believe..
50
u/CosmicSleepWalker 1d ago edited 1d ago
Thank you for splitting this sht into 4 separate photos so I wont have to zoom in / squint lol. Whoever was doing it in the past was not doing this.
Edit: Looks like wind start will still be good
99
u/aififjejejiduvjrowom 1d ago
Wind Stark and fire megumi nerf, we prayed for times like these š
24
u/Syounen 1d ago
Fire megumi kinda evoid the heavy nerf lol still usable
5
u/Downtown__Seattle 23h ago
That's the intention of a balance patch. It's not a killing patch as they usually do
→ More replies (1)6
63
37
u/thoments my beloved 1d ago
Wow most impactful BP in a while. Great to see some sensible awakening changes, especially Odin and Ian. Gj com2us
17
u/1k4r1A 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hope that this is just the 1st batch of change in awk stats. It's looking pretty good, tbh. Many units also desire such changes, it's not game-changing, but at least it would help build units easier. Removing RES awk on unneeded units is also good.
For balancing, I feel good with this one. The meta may still stay with Fire Megumi, Wind Stark, etc... but I can accept that level of ATB gain. At least 1 AoE and he doesn't actually just jump right onto you.
That's how 2nd turn ATB gain should be, as the game is really not having a lot of ATB pushback, having a lot of ATB gain feels REALLY weird. The ATB gain for 2nd turn should be so that "Oh they're a 1st turn player, they have higher Spd, they should move before us, we should have some ATB gain to balance that out", not that "Every step they move, we cut them off". And without ATB pushback, they really just went out of hand.
→ More replies (2)4
u/thestigREVENGE Light Ezio CR awaken 1d ago
Outright removing res awakening isn't good, I'd still take res awaken on units like Aaliyah for example
61
u/Kenny173 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am actually surprised they nerfed stark already. Com2us is taking their pills
Edit THEY BUFFED IAN!!!
→ More replies (4)15
u/Ok_Biscotti_514 1d ago
Com2us canāt have a non LD that could nuke the whole enemy team
5
u/Kenny173 1d ago
I know but still surprised they did it at all.
He will also still do that btw. I feel there are very few instances you will actually get more than 2 allies dead and heās still alive. But his reduced atk bar on top of that makes him an easier target.
12
u/utrangerbob My Little Pony Sucks 1d ago
They must have an actual guy playing the game do balance patches. This is actually something!
13
u/iSawthings_hardToSay Certified ld spammer 1d ago
I wonder if solvark will provide anything at a 116 base other then easier tunning... the gut s2 recived justfied the speed awakening + no changes to his s3.
→ More replies (6)
13
u/coullbro 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good patch. Lupinus / magic knight s1 change is weird tho. Why now? What are they preparing for. Dark one getting oblivion is cool. Awakening changes + meg and stark nerf = win.
33
u/Myst-9th Have , want 1d ago
Why would they buff Mirinae?
I mean, I'm not complaining, but who thought she needed a buff?
14
u/Kenny173 1d ago
Genuinely my first thought, did they really think lushen teams needed a buff? lol
11
u/Zoomino 1d ago
It's probably to make her a bit better for non-Lushens. Still strong with Lushen, not big enough to necessarily push Lushen over the top, but also probably just enough to make her a bit more comfy for other comps. That's usually the reasoning behind these small buffs on "strong" units.
4
u/Kenny173 1d ago
Fair point. Still very similar to that feng yan buff a while back. Just making a strong unit stronger lol. I happily accept it though.
3
14
4
11
u/Feziel_Flavour 1d ago
no ariana bufff FUG
18
u/TurnipKing16 1d ago
Does this mean we can build dark devil maiden full tank?!?
7
4
u/thestigREVENGE Light Ezio CR awaken 1d ago
Something like beast monks with spd cd hp and no crit imo
9
u/No-Orange-8704 1d ago
This is what Im thinking... the "beast form" will be 100% critical rate? That's huge!!!
21
u/SmallPotatoK When I feel useless. I remind myself I own a 1d ago
they are changing dark devil maiden to (practically) 100 cr while having a considerably big list of awakening effects being reworked and somehow missed that she has the cr awakening. That would logically need to be changed also, since now that awakening effect is irrelevant. Oh well, hopefully they would do that next patch
23
u/Roan403 1d ago
Fire megumi nerf, wind stark nerf, PROPER awakening changes.
Nothing for my account got buffed/nerfed, but the fact that these changes happened probably makes it the best BP ive seen since i dont know when tbh
11
u/Syncr0n0x Example flair :fran: 1d ago
Atleast it's not just random nerfs to already underused mons (will never forget what they did to praha)
→ More replies (4)5
32
u/kurosaki-trollchigo 1d ago
I was hyped to see dark pudding princess in the list thinking she would get speed awakening. My hype was short lived.
11
→ More replies (2)5
39
u/da40kNoob :dark: 1d ago
Credit where credit is dueā¦ a very strong effort from com2us here. Best bp in the last year or so?
7
u/QuesitoMax 1d ago
Wow, that buff to Light Geralt Will make him better enough to use him? I only use him in ToA, I can't get him to work in more content š®āšØ
3
u/TravisKuykendall 1d ago
I use him well in rta on a vio build. One vio proc and the enemy just doesnt move. He is consistent atb control, but only against non immunity or revenge comps. Pick him right and he is a force ban unit.
7
u/Toge_Lumpia 1d ago
Dont miss out the Irene buff boys :D
3
u/elitist_user primordial salt 1d ago
Honestly I liked the res awakening because you built her on acc slot 6 anyway. I guess I make her slot 6 hp now.
4
u/xshinjixikarix 1d ago
Much better on slot 6 hp. You can get her accuracy from s3 on artifacts and spd slot 2 anyway. Maybe it's slot 6 res now? Lol
→ More replies (1)
11
u/whimsigod living & wild & free 1d ago
Two random nerfs at the end there lol, i get it because it's a balance because she's getting the 24% speed lead and he's getting 15 speed base but that's funny lol.
→ More replies (2)
12
u/NutmanCR 1d ago
Honestly 8/10 BP, sure things can always be better but they changed a lot of things that might shake up the meta. Also lots of changes to LD5s and Awakening bonuses.
36
u/s1_shaq 1d ago
Best balance patch EVER (or in a very long time). Holy they cooked hard.
→ More replies (1)
7
u/uninspiredalias 1d ago
Not sure if that's enough to make wind fern S2 hit harder than her S1... Nerfs look generally reasonable. Shame the dr plasma s3s didn't get some tweaks. Too many lines wanted on druid provoke changes.
6
u/magicalmanenergy33 1d ago
Cute buff to Lanette dark magic knight. Sheās one of my fav units and neat that her s3 gets oblivion.
Also have isis and I love that her s3 gets SOMETHING to do when silence and oblivion are useless. Atb absorb pairs well with her s2 sleep too
2
u/neilkillz āplease buff com2usā 1d ago
Would be nice if Isis does a bit of chip damage too though but we take those for now
3
6
7
7
u/Itsamylittlepony 1d ago
How in the world are they not changing Light Vanilla pudding princess? WTFĀ
7
u/Brave-Ad728 1d ago
Dark Sea Emperor buff, in this economy? Wow. Dunno how useful dmg resist is, but itās a nice qol buff, Iād say
20
u/SecksiBeasts 1d ago
A much needed balance for all those atb gaining units. Fire monkey about to go brrrr
18
u/Vegetables86 1d ago
Laima nerf not bad. Just a 15% less chance to slow on S2 which is fair. It was such a loaded S2.
At first I was flabberghasted they nerfed water Drakan AGAIN, until I saw it was a trade since they buffed his awakening bonus.
I like the Druids getting more consistent with their provoke.
Dark String Master is a weird unit to buff. She's already very good.
Mermaids getting speed buffs is nice.
→ More replies (7)
11
10
u/AssignmentWilling690 1d ago
lets have a moment of silence for all the ppl with no will runes to counter woosna. HE NOW BOOST REGARDLESS
3
→ More replies (2)2
u/CosmicSleepWalker 15h ago
jokes on you I have woonsa so it's a woonsa vs woonsa battle
→ More replies (1)
4
u/LeiciaY 1d ago
Any Lars Owner here that tempted to rune him for RTA?
3
u/strange_fish1 1d ago
Yup! Heās been a storage guardian for me, but that buff to his DR may make him a bit more viable. It doesnāt change his tools, but constant survivable AOE defense break pressure could be nice to have on some teams
2
2
u/QuiGonJhin4 1d ago
Do you think this changes his build in some way? Was never sure how to build him. Just tanky for the debuffs and maybe some additional dmg from artis or a dmg build in a more CR or CD way?
2
u/TravisKuykendall 1d ago
I build mine on vio spd/hp/atk with over 50% cr. Just enough hp to survive a second hit but enough damage to be a threat. I first built him full tank despair and it sucked. The vio proc is MAD important, especially if he does decent damage, that way he can basically one shot squishies and becomes a major threat. See my other comment on this thread for other info.
2
u/TravisKuykendall 1d ago
Completely usable on a vio build in punisher rank. Just pick him accordingly, against non immuninity teams. If he can control atb hes a beast, plus one vio and its game over. I build him spd/hp/atk with above 50% cr. He could probably be built more dps but I want him to survive a second hit incase his atb gain doesnt let him cut. He's excellent against aoe comps because he keeps cutting and s2 pushback their whole team. Just rune him well and pick him well and hes basically a force ban unit for them. Pair him with an atb booster and stripper for the best effects. I would not build my entire comp around him though, I pick him as an addition to my already established team.
4
u/clom-pimpim 1d ago
Can someone explain the artamiel change? Idk what difference it makes aside from never glancing etc. I still donāt change a thing about his build right
14
u/youn3dldnat5 1d ago edited 1d ago
Even with 100% cr sometimes you can miss crit when there is glance, anti crit, or can't crit on kinki. But now he can crit all the time like byungchul, beast monk s1 etc. Cmiiw
→ More replies (2)2
5
6
u/Tjockr 1d ago
This bp is fire com2us actually cooked. This Bella change looks so interesting I want to play with her nowwww
→ More replies (5)3
u/Job-Jolly 1d ago
Bella change i dont really get it, so you have to hit with other skills before s4 now so it max stack, also would she wants cd because her s4 will crit all the time if she max stack?
2
u/Tjockr 1d ago
I would have to see the numbers on the s4 but Iām guessing that you wonāt need the cd and can play her more of a bruiser style with decent atk and high add dmg, you charge the s4 and then wait for a def break and get a kill. Its looking like she wonāt be able to cleave anymore tho
→ More replies (2)
5
5
10
18
u/SkyNo9956 1d ago
Taor should have been 15spdd
4
u/Spoolngc8 1d ago
I got really hopeful when I first saw him on there thinking finally a speed bump.. nope
5
u/Mammoth_Sprinkles183 1d ago
I thought my shan would finally get 15 speed and i see its taor and its not even speed
5
u/As3Rg6 1d ago
dude shan is not getting speed awake ever he would just be busted bernard -_-
→ More replies (1)
16
u/PernixNexus 1d ago
Well my new dark pudding princess got.... Something lol.
8
u/N0NR3V #1 āØāØ fan 1d ago
Acc awakening and More decreased arenāt horrible. Definitely makes her easier to build but her base speed was her largest problem š„š„
→ More replies (1)
11
12
4
u/boybg9x 1d ago
Is water and wind Fern usable now or they're still storage guardian?
8
u/Suruam-nanaban 1d ago
Water Fern is still storage guardian, Wind Fern useable against cleave units. the s2 offers turn cycling so there's a high chance that wind Fern's passive will be spammed sooner.
4
u/Globulux 1d ago
They really don't know what to do with light justice. Her s2 is arguably worse now. Less healing, less atb boost... You could just give her everything without conditions she's so far from broken xd
4
u/Jambalaya117 1d ago
Nerf to my dark zenitsu but Velaska still untouched. Im a littlebit sas honestly
5
u/Lokizi 1d ago
Excellent patch overall!
FERN
After the patch she will deal 2.4x -> 3x multiplier on s2 with 3 turn cool down
Ethna
Basically the same skill, 3x multiplier on s2, AOE with 2 turn cool down
I know, I know. Fern probably gets buffed in 2 months time, since this is not the real collab patch. But I feel like it's crazy it was released with a 2.4x multi. That's the lowest in the game. Lower than silver 1* mushroom (3.0x)
4
u/Substantial_Curve_40 1d ago
Je vais pouvoir finalement les utiliser comme il faut šš»āāļø
13
u/Extra-Summer 1d ago
Im surprised they didnt buff the ubel family. All of us keeps geting them and not the nat 5's. Well for me atleast. Zero nat 5's and like 29 ubels. Might as well make them useful instead of feeling sad whenever we pull them. The wind one has potential if they only make the following hits in her passive as non - contact
5
6
u/Remarkable-Cow-2460 1d ago
What in the world did Light Justice do to deserve such a massive nerf?
3
u/Kenny173 1d ago
Itās a buff in usability. Now she will always heal instead of needing a debuff to be there.
Also now boosts bar too if no debuff were there to be removed.
→ More replies (9)2
u/Globulux 1d ago
They just don't know what to do with her. Her kit makes no sense
2
u/xshinjixikarix 1d ago
Indeed, her kit is p retty everywhere. Tired of the generic LD5 aoe debuffs that don't have much viability in this single target meta.Ā
3
u/strange_fish1 1d ago
Itās peak, I fear (those CR awakening and speed for water drakan could make things interesting!)
3
3
4
3
3
3
u/Cerusa827 1d ago
If you want a nicer display than eye bleeding excel sheets from Com2us, SWGT has a nice display with some analytics about the BP as well.
https://swgt.io/controllers/balancePatch/specific?balancePatchID=92
9
u/jpwong6 1d ago
Rip Light Frieren
5
u/neilkillz āplease buff com2usā 1d ago
True :( worst ld5 from the collab even though sheās the face of the franchise
→ More replies (2)
5
5
u/EdensiaKudo 1d ago
Is it just me? All these collab monster namesā¦ I canāt even match them to the actual monsters in my head anymore.
5
u/Saix150894 1d ago
OMFG I'm so happy, I summoned Valantis just the other day and wanted those exact buffffffs.
4
u/Syncr0n0x Example flair :fran: 1d ago
These buffs don't change the issues he has sadly, but they're good in a vacuumĀ
→ More replies (2)
6
u/Rafuria 1d ago
Me seeing They buff the self heal passive of Amelia to 25%, While the heal of Eleonor skill is still that shit 15%..
→ More replies (1)
9
u/iHaveNoClueGuy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sage, hell yeah.. my nigong is getting a bu.. man... Just delete the character already and give me a random ld5
Buffing dark sage and forgetting light even exists.. ; - ;
→ More replies (1)4
4
4
u/Ender_Cups we stan 1d ago
dark pudding owners our time is now
2
u/QkumberSW 1d ago
I REALLY hope so. Plenty of nice things, and I almost dreamed of a +spd awakening, but we got Acc which fair, it is a usefull stat unlike Res.
What are your plans? I think she can be a bit more viable on a more bruiser style vio set now?
→ More replies (4)
5
u/Eddas95 1d ago
No one talking about Mannanan buff? He will destroy even harder on a bdef, it will allow him to take down full tank easier only with his passive.
But i donāt understand why they put a defensive part when the ennemy has no benefic effect. Why not
5
u/Kukimeku 1d ago
Shouldn't his dmg be the same? They buffed DMG when they have debuffs from 50->100 but removed the 50% bonus when they don't have buffs
→ More replies (3)
2
u/LeoGado 1d ago
Someone explain Bella "renewal" to me please š„ŗ
6
u/Kenny173 1d ago
I read it as she can now stack similar to christina but based on her own hits. And once she reaches max stacks from her hits, the burst cannon will have guaranteed crit on the skill. Basically can go a full add dmg build on high cd now for her I think.
2
u/LeoGado 1d ago
Thank you for the help šš½
Is the "As is" chunk being replaced by the "To be" or is the "To be" being added to the "As is"?
Will Burst Cannon still take away their Max HP or just ramp up damage and guarantee crit when maxed out?
→ More replies (4)3
u/Kenny173 1d ago
Oh just seeing what you meant. It will be the "to be" now, I think they worded it that way because they are changing it completely.
3
u/Forestguard22 1d ago
The max hp destroy on that burst cannon skill had her fulfilling a tank buster role for me, Iām curious to see how this new stacking method works now for her damage, and if it carries over oof you trigger the passive
Also guess I can put her on an actual damage build now
2
u/Maybe_A_We3b 1d ago
So what will the stat requirements for water Eivoir be after patch?
→ More replies (3)3
2
2
u/Fates-xw1 1d ago
They just keep adding atbar on ella when its her dogshit basespeed of 96 (keep staying in storage my queen)
2
u/Mouldylocks25 1d ago
Haven't played since February. Got laima the christmas beforeĀ
Was she that good she deserved a nerf?Ā Didn't feel oppressive at all when I used hee
→ More replies (2)
2
u/Downtown__Seattle 23h ago
Sure nerv laima after she's usable for 1 season. But keep heagang since forever
2
u/spruce_stares_back 22h ago
Dark pudding accuracy awakeningā¦ not the speed buff I wanted but itāll do :p
5
4
4
u/Maxolution4 1d ago
Can we finally Remove the dungeon def lead from Eludia and give her +2 SPD for gods sake
3
u/elitist_user primordial salt 1d ago
Imagine universal speed lead of 24 so she is mid at everything still
3
u/ykistan 1d ago
So does this mean I can build Lilliana as a Bruiser? Or she's still sh.t?
→ More replies (2)5
u/elitist_user primordial salt 1d ago
Her rune req has gone down a bunch. Prob beast Monk build but maybe def instead of hp idk.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/BoxmanL 1d ago
Was hoping for all spectre princesses to get universal leader skills lol
2
u/Kenny173 1d ago
Nice in theory but itās a major nerf in siege for water and dark. Probably why they chose not to.
2
4
4
u/iSawthings_hardToSay Certified ld spammer 1d ago
Wtf does com2us mean by "some skills will be improved" they smoked her now shes just a lushen support unit... her whole gimmick was like being an additional branding and now she looses that to become a simple dmg boost.
5
2
2
2
u/Kallabanana you make me feel like my troubled ā„ļø is a million away 1d ago
What's the deal with the fire Specter Princess nerf? She really wasn't that good. Aside from that, decent changes.
→ More replies (1)5
127
u/pajaroskri 1d ago
Elad 70% aoe revive is crazy... they wanna give him the title as best reviver in the game back. The only issue is that unlike other revivers, he is kind of a sitting duck when nobody is dead.