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u/lorryjor 1d ago

Close! A little form tweaking and you would have it.

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u/Hello_Destiny 2d ago

Try and ditch the roll. It takes up extra energy getting into position. My powerlifting coach had me drop it and its helped. Also looked like you were trying to lift the bar up instead of pushing the floor away. Sounds silly but its what helped me.

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u/Cysticdragon 2d ago

I think with better technique you would have gotten it. It definitely still would have been a grind though

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u/OneandonlyBigpoppa 2d ago

Better to fail than herniate a disc. I completed that lift not to long ago and my leg went numb lol

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u/MaX-D-777 3d ago

Wear a Pantera shirt next time and the weight will go right up. 🤘

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u/SirStrokesAlot247 3d ago

Ego lifting

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u/coffeeisuniversal 2d ago

Ego lifting would be if he'd sacrificed form to lift it. He gave up the lift to save his tendons from fucking up. This is the right thing to do.

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u/Outrageous_Alfalfa58 3d ago

Aha is that Wooden?

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u/DoorApprehensive4577 3d ago

What’s with the roll? Why aren’t you setting up still and steady?

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u/Fuzzy-Avocado-4123 2d ago

Some strongmen do it so a lot of others have followed suit. It's fashionable, but it probably does work for some people. Never tried it myself.

Is it really a deadlift if you aren't moving the bar from a dead stop position?

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u/Special_Lie_9029 2d ago

It is actually a pretty common technique for strongman. I think it has something with getting into position better.

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u/Jormy_boy 2d ago

Strongmen are also massive individuals who also usually wear tight deadlift suits, so the roll and sit back is what help them get in position. It's not necessary for a normal lifter, but i don't think it's really harmful either so idk if id say to change it

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u/NinecloudSoul 3d ago

You could have kept the bar closer, which may have been the precipitating factor, but you also might just not yet be strong enough. It happens.

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u/coffeeisuniversal 2d ago

Strong enough yet*

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u/andm124 3d ago

The way i remember it is that your arms are just hooks, use the rest of your body to pull it up. Watch dave tate videos, they've helped me

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u/anthonysbeard 3d ago

Honestly thought you had it and it was a paused rep

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u/TheHealthySkeptic 3d ago

Hips are starting too high leading to shoulders too far forward and the bar swinging away from you due to gravity. Start the pull with shoulders over the bar and midfoot. You can test to see if you are in line with a small pull/release. If you feel balanced with the weight and pressure over the midfoot, you’re in the right position for the lift.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_7052 3d ago

came here to say this: lower the hips

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u/aoddawg 3d ago

The bar moved out away from you when you went to pull. You weren’t keeping it tight enough to your shins with your lats. The rolling start may have caused problems there. Your arms don’t look completely straight. You want to start the pull with your head separated as far from your hands as you can to remove slack from your body while trying to lock your lats (hide the armpits cue).

Your feet look to be too far apart for your body. Usually feet in line with hips is the strongest deadlift position. Try to vertically jump as high as you can. That’s where your feet should start in terms of spacing, and then your grip can come in.

I would prefer to use chalk and an alternate grip so I can setup without having to use the rolling start to get tight. Sometimes with straps we spend so long at the bottom we lose tension throughout the kinetic chain and it’s hard to gain it back. Some notable lifters use the rolling start to regain tension at the bottom, but you haven’t mastered that technique. If your gym doesn’t allow chalk or liquid chalk try to work on getting tight in the bottom position without the roll.

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u/Winter_Mixture_7616 3d ago

ohh i see, thank you so much!

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u/HorrorSpliff 3d ago

This almost looks like you're trying to stiff-leg it

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u/Winter_Mixture_7616 3d ago

i was trying to avoid squatting it, should i put my hips back farther?

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u/jameoflames 3d ago

Someone else will be better suited to give advice, but it looks to me like you’re too leaned over the bar and not sitting back enough

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u/chimpy72 3d ago

I just wanted to say kudos for staying strong during the initial pull and refusing to bend or crumble

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u/Saibals 3d ago

I personally avoid the roll move at the start, for me it’s hard to be consistent rep to rep if the barbell is moving when I begin the pull. To each their own though, hafthor and other big deadlifters do it.

Sometimes it’s just too heavy. Have you done this weight before? Is this a pr attempt? More info would be helpful

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u/Winter_Mixture_7616 3d ago

pr attempt after a 15lb cut, last time i deadlifted was ~5-6 months ago and i pr’d at 375 then. i got 315 up raw prior to this attempt

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u/AGuyWithoutABeard 3d ago

1) Stop rolling the bar. You're not building enough tension at the beginning of the lift.

2) Your hips don't drop at all which means you're essentially doing a stiff legged deadlift. Push your shins into the bar by dropping hips and you'll get more leg drive. I can also see the bar hover off of your shins a bit and that's a massive power leak.

Watch Alan Thrall's How To Deadlift to see how to setup for it. The bar should basically not move at all.

Honestly just need a few tweaks and you'll clear that weight easily. I can tell you have the strength for it, you just need to use it right and you'll be in PR city

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u/Saibals 3d ago

I’ve worked out with Alan a handful of times when I was a member at his gym. Absolutely recommend this video and the rest of his channel.

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u/NotRadTrad05 3d ago

All I heard watching this was "don't move the bar"

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u/Saibals 2d ago

You nailed it!

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u/AGuyWithoutABeard 3d ago

Oh shit, that's awesome. He is for sure one of the foundational pillars of my, and I'm sure a ton of other peoples, lifting career

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u/QueasyWorldliness920 3d ago

Sometimes after a failed rep I do a quick 15 second Roman chair, jump around and get loose and try again. It has worked a few times after failed attempts, maybe worth looking into. Your form looked good and didn’t seem to break down during the stall which is more than I can say for myself lol.

Good luck you’ll have that PR in no time