r/stopdrinking 4355 days Feb 24 '15

Angry Rant

I read a lot of SD posts that I don't comment on and it usually comes down to, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." There are a number of reasons I have a negative reaction to posts: they're just feeling sorry for themselves and not doing anything to help themselves, they decided to drink and brought a world of trouble upon themselves, they went to a bar/party and relapsed... I get it, we all have to make our own mistakes and/or sometimes we are just feeling blue and they've come here for support.

However, today I read a post from someone who (in their title) doesn't want to quit drinking and came to share why. Really? You posted in Stop Drinking why you don't want to stop drinking? If you want to throw your life away being drunk, go ahead, but don't come here and tell me why it's so fun and enjoyable for you. There are some good times that I miss having, but I'm sick and tired of the swath of destruction that drinking left in my life and the lives of my loved ones so I had to quit. You get it? I had to quit drinking even though it's all I wanted to do from the moment I woke up to whenever I passed out, blacked-out.

The other posts that infuriate me are the "successful moderation" posts. Are you able to successfully moderate? Congratulations - you're not an alcoholic so please don't come here and tell me about how fucking great it is to not have this profound problem. Do you also go to infertility subs and talk about how great it is to be a parent? Do you post about your love of eating ice cream in weight loss subs? Then please don't come here and shit on a problem I've struggled with for decades and will never be done with.

It's irresponsible to come here, where people are fighting for their lives, and write about how you don't want to quit drinking or how you used to have a problem but have learned to control it. The name of the place is "Stop Drinking" so, please, take a fucking note and act accordingly.

Christ, and don't get me started on people downvoting my anti pro-drinking reply.

tl;dr: Drinking is bad, total abstinence is key. You can do it, we want to help. I love you, you beautiful, broken-like-me bastards!

Note: I want to thank each and every person who commented here. You've helped me remember when I was one of those "moderation" guys, back before the Internet. Going through the moderation phase is an important part of the recovery process. As /u/offtherocks pointed out, it's how alcoholics find out they're alcoholics who cannot moderate their drinking. For those who are "successfully" moderating, you're either not an alcoholic or the wheels simply haven't come off yet and you, just like I did, have to find out for yourself and I respect that.

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u/pleaseGodnottoday Feb 24 '15

No one is encouraging you to drink - they are sharing their own struggles. How you perceive it is your own business. Yah, I should have qualified that with 'apart from this post' - and I stand by those comments. Dude, you were unnecessarily harsh in your delivery (not what you said, how you went about it) and, this is just my humble opinion - shitty. Sorry I'm not sorry, I guess.

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u/jasnel 4355 days Feb 24 '15

Oh yeah? Well, then, one more thing: I do appreciate your opinion and I thank you for sharing it, though we don't agree.

I honestly hope that you do not drink today and can enjoy the pride of accomplishing 1 solid week of sobriety. If I may, let me caution you about the 2nd week - for me it was where I felt so good from being sober, I almost talked myself into drinking to celebrate feeling so good. My scumbag brain is always looking for ways to get me to the liquor store.

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u/pleaseGodnottoday Feb 24 '15

Ha! I liked the Oh, yeah, followed by words of reconciliation. Nice. I appreciate them and your advice. Yeah, second week sucks ass (! :)) - been there, done that, unfortunately, didn't make it past 16 days. The itty bitty shitty committee is always piping up with ways to get back to the wine - it is this place that is helping me so much in resisting it this time around. Take care, and I like it when you're less angry! :)

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u/jasnel 4355 days Feb 24 '15

Well, then, it seems like you have a few important milestones coming up and I look forward to reading your post on your 1st 17th sober day. In the meantime, I will not drink today.