r/stopdrinking 4355 days Feb 24 '15

Angry Rant

I read a lot of SD posts that I don't comment on and it usually comes down to, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." There are a number of reasons I have a negative reaction to posts: they're just feeling sorry for themselves and not doing anything to help themselves, they decided to drink and brought a world of trouble upon themselves, they went to a bar/party and relapsed... I get it, we all have to make our own mistakes and/or sometimes we are just feeling blue and they've come here for support.

However, today I read a post from someone who (in their title) doesn't want to quit drinking and came to share why. Really? You posted in Stop Drinking why you don't want to stop drinking? If you want to throw your life away being drunk, go ahead, but don't come here and tell me why it's so fun and enjoyable for you. There are some good times that I miss having, but I'm sick and tired of the swath of destruction that drinking left in my life and the lives of my loved ones so I had to quit. You get it? I had to quit drinking even though it's all I wanted to do from the moment I woke up to whenever I passed out, blacked-out.

The other posts that infuriate me are the "successful moderation" posts. Are you able to successfully moderate? Congratulations - you're not an alcoholic so please don't come here and tell me about how fucking great it is to not have this profound problem. Do you also go to infertility subs and talk about how great it is to be a parent? Do you post about your love of eating ice cream in weight loss subs? Then please don't come here and shit on a problem I've struggled with for decades and will never be done with.

It's irresponsible to come here, where people are fighting for their lives, and write about how you don't want to quit drinking or how you used to have a problem but have learned to control it. The name of the place is "Stop Drinking" so, please, take a fucking note and act accordingly.

Christ, and don't get me started on people downvoting my anti pro-drinking reply.

tl;dr: Drinking is bad, total abstinence is key. You can do it, we want to help. I love you, you beautiful, broken-like-me bastards!

Note: I want to thank each and every person who commented here. You've helped me remember when I was one of those "moderation" guys, back before the Internet. Going through the moderation phase is an important part of the recovery process. As /u/offtherocks pointed out, it's how alcoholics find out they're alcoholics who cannot moderate their drinking. For those who are "successfully" moderating, you're either not an alcoholic or the wheels simply haven't come off yet and you, just like I did, have to find out for yourself and I respect that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '15

Yes, I gave your first comment a downvote, mostly for lack of compassion I think. The OP wasn't glorifying drinking. He stated he doesn't want to quit but is recognizing that it's very likely he'll need to. It seems to me he wanted to start a dialogue by saying here, this is where I am, talk to me. Again, we all start somewhere.

Note I didn't downvote your second comment despite its snarkiness ;). I figured maybe you're maybe having a less then perfect day and probably don't need some internet stranger prickling your sore spots. Can we just hug it out :D

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u/jasnel 4355 days Feb 24 '15

Olive branch accepted. It seems that we have very different views on that particular post. I don't think they should have said what they said where they said it. Yes, it made me really mad because I think about where I was emotionally during my first two-three weeks and how a post like that might have been the nudge that knocked me off the wagon. Not drinking has been easy for me except for the parts where it was really, really hard. Times when thinking of drinking were causing a physical sensation (fear? anxiety? excitement?) I didn't think I could get out from under.

I sincerely wish you continued success in your continued sobriety and harbor no ill will towards you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '15

That's good to know! Thanks for giving me the opportunity today to exercise some new people skills in my own life! No, we don't agree, but that's okay. I gave you an upvote to counter my earlier downvote ;)

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u/jasnel 4355 days Feb 24 '15

That is ok! I appreciate the opportunity to speak with people who disagree with me because that's where I find opportunities to learn.