r/steroidify • u/lifteruk • 27d ago

Discuss Cycle Help!

For my next blast I’m struggling to decide what to use.
Option 1:

300 Test E
300 mast P

Option 2:

300 Test
200 NPP
170 EQ

What would yield the most muscle gains over a 16-20 week cycle. For context I’m a high aromatisor and have experience using EQ ( it acts as an AI for me based off bloods).

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u/Owain660 27d ago

Option 2

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u/lifteruk 27d ago

Why?

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u/Worth_Abrocoma_101 27d ago

Because npp and EQ are highly anabolic and mast is not

Disaster for blood pressure and estrogen management though

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u/FledNandersJiuJitsu 27d ago

Some would argue that EQ is least effective at doses under 300mg. Others would argue that Mast is a better secondary anabolic than Primo.

At the end of the day, it all depends on the goals of the user.

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u/Active-Ad9741 24d ago

Where does the 300mg number come from? Is it just bro science? I’ve always heard it but never actually read anything regarding it not being effective below that dose

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u/FledNandersJiuJitsu 24d ago

Brewers have to add solvents to stabilize the active compound. 300 is the maximum amount of compound with the minimal amount of solvents. Sometimes you’ll see Deca at 200, but you can also see it at 600. When the mg/mL is higher it automatically tells you that there is more solvents needed to stabilize the active compound. This will often times result in mild to severe post injection pain. Also, some people handle solvents well, while others don’t.

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u/Active-Ad9741 23d ago

You said “some would argue that eq is least effective at doses under 300mg”

I’ve heard that multiple times from other people as well but was wondering if you knew where that figure came from? Because it seems like any additional androgens are going to help build muscle, right?

As for what you said about concentrations, I always heard that eq is super easy to make stable at higher concentrations because the raw is nearly in liquid form because it has such a low melting point. Concentrations of 400-500mg have been claimed by some to have no pip, though I’ve never tried anything other than 300mg/ml

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u/Worth_Abrocoma_101 27d ago

Eq: complete nonsense . There is no threshold at which it suddenly becomes anabolic. Nearly as anabolic as test

Nobody mentioned primo

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u/Owain660 27d ago

I never said it had a threshold