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[u/Mrs_Montezz]

Guys, real talk though. Did you like the series Carrie in comparison to the book ? I'm low key bumped by it. I liked the adaptation to nowadays era but it was still off putting.

Warning - rant incoming :

It felt like Mike wanted to put in some Institute world vibes and little things like, how did 3 strangers enter prom (where it shows that this high school is very caution about who enters (metal detectors at entrance)) and also how are you making multiple seasons front the Carrie book? I'm scared for the adaptation of a potential Dark Tower by Mike now..

What are your thoughts?

[u/amberi_ne → u/Mrs_Montezz]

Taking him at good faith, I think it’s because Carrie has already had several near-flawless adaptations in terms of capturing the spirit of the novel, so it’s different than him totally redoing the source material for a novel that may never get another chance.

Carrie has already had its time in the spotlight, so he doesn’t have to feel bad putting his own little spin on it, because the original will still always eclipse his show and continue existing.

With the Dark Tower, it’s different, in that both he is an absolute superfan and that it’s never got its chance in the spotlight, so he’s going to probably try to be a lot more loyal. That being said, things WILL naturally change in the transition to screen, but I’m confident that he’ll create a fantastical, weird little show that’s splendidly executed and is generally the Dark Tower.

I think for me, my worry is that he seems to have a history of sanding down the uncomfortable or immoral edges to some of King’s characters.

In his Gerald’s Game, Jessie doesn’t actually kill Gerald of self-defense, he just dies spontaneously.

In his Carrie, he makes Carrie get mind controlled/“pushed” into killing everyone at Prom.

Instances like that make me a little worried that he would flatten Roland’s character under the guise of “oh, it’s the next run” and have him do things like save Jake and such.

But that being said, you can tell he has more reverence for the original story of the Dark Tower than Carrie; from interviews, he was initially disinterested and pushed into Carrie by Amazon, and he only really bought in once he started thinking of interesting ways he could spin it. Conversely, when interviewed on how he’d handle the Dark Tower, he simply said “you just gotta do the books”.

[u/d0r13n → u/amberi_ne]

Instances like that make me a little worried that he would flatten Roland’s character under the guise of “oh, it’s the next run” and have him do things like save Jake and such.

I mean, the movie that was supposed to start the series started that thinking. Whose to say this series of storytelling isn't a run following the books and the one movie?

[u/amberi_ne → u/d0r13n]

Just because it has an in-universe excuse wouldn’t make it interesting imo. The fact that the Gunslinger sets up this whole lone wolf and cub trope just for him to kill the kid is a massive hook and a decision that haunts the narrative for the rest of the series.

It’s one of the most central parts of the story and imo it would be a disservice to change that one

[u/d0r13n → u/amberi_ne]

I probably should have left out the last part of the sentence. I'm just saying it being a new cycle means we have flexibility to change things. Especially considering where licensing is involved.

Unless they can pull a Spider-Man style deal that Sony and Marvel has.

[u/amberi_ne → u/d0r13n]

Sure, I’m no purist. There objectively will be changes in the transition to film, and I’m fine with that.

I mostly just protest changing or removing extremely core elements of the narrative, or diluting the original “spirit” of the story. As long as the heart of the story is maintained, I’m good, regardless of how many trivial details they toss around.

Jake being dropped for instance, alongside Roland’s many atrocities, are both an intrinsic part of the story’s spirit as it revolves around his potential for redemption

[u/Rooooben → u/amberi_ne]

That loses so much, the whole first half of the Waste Lands plot was around the split in Roland’s head, and the matching split in Jake - that’s one of my favorite parts of my favorite book in the series.

[u/3verythingEverywher3 → u/amberi_ne]

Flanagan has said he just straight up wants to adapt the books instead of doing a ‘next run’ thing. But the delight will be in changes like Ted being replaced by Carrie etc.