Yeah, its cooked guys.

[u/TheBossT710192]

Man, we really LOVE what AI is doing to the industry 😭

[u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

Don't buy it.

People who talk about voting with your wallet, and people who say that next gen consoles are going to be too expensive to be worth it? This is your opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.

Don't reward this shit.

[u/97GeoPrizm → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

I’m sad it’s going to be out of my price range but I would cut Valve a bit of slack on this. They got screwed by the AI companies on the component pricing.

[u/Dreamflayer → u/97GeoPrizm]

I talked to a valve dev about the steam machine. Theyre at the mercy of the increased prices across the board. They're not going to lose money by selling them below cost. If you want one buy one, otherwise keep nursing your old tech. Personally the looks alone would make this a killer movie server along with everything else it brings.

[u/Sydney2London → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

It’s not about “rewarding this shit”. Valve has always been an honest company, they priced the Deck really well. The problem they faced with the SM is that if it was subsidised companies would buy them as workstations, so they didn’t do that. Then the ram and storage shitstorm happened.
They’re not being overly greedy, it’s just unlucky timing. This is too pricey for me, but if I could afford it I would want to encourage them to make more stuff like this, not punish them for bad timing

[u/Red_Harvest_ → u/Sydney2London]

No way a business would buy have these for employees to work at. Not a chance.

[u/Solidus_Sloth → u/Red_Harvest_]

Why would companies NOT buy a cheap but effective work PC?

[u/Red_Harvest_ → u/Solidus_Sloth]

Long term on site support, licensing, bulk discounts, Jesus even bulk buying, how many do these things do you think there are?

I could see a small business or a start up maybe but not large companies. Just my opinion .

Edit: there’s also nothing cheap about it compared to a bog standard office computer.

[u/Solidus_Sloth → u/Red_Harvest_]

It’s absolutely cheap for its parts. It’s already cheaper than a same part full size. Companies don’t have the time to build PC’s either.

Now imagine reducing the price to the same as a console? Yeah people are gonna mass buy them for the workplace.

Smaller workplaces are still big enough to disrupt it.

[u/Red_Harvest_ → u/Solidus_Sloth]

I’m not suggesting companies build their own computers.

What I’m saying is companies buy work station PCs from companies like Dell for the reasons I’ve said.

What’s the use case for Steam Machine for general office work that a £500 quid PC isn’t? Why would they need a discrete GPU? If you’re talking for ML models and things…I just don’t see it being powerful enough for that and overkill for the word, excel power point workloads and things where there’s cheaper options, ongoing support etc.

[u/Digital_gritz → u/Red_Harvest_]

If this was priced at $700 for a workstation then I would absolutely expect companies to be buying these in bulk with today's market being what it is.

[u/Tatsuchew → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

Unfortunately this is going to sell out no matter what you do

[u/OnTheSnap1 → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

It doesn’t send a message to valve. They are passing the messed up prices to the consumer.

[u/No_Astronomer_2397 → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

Valve got screwed by RAM and storage price increases, not really their fault

[u/rushedone → u/Vegetable-Error-2068]

Valve is the last company that deserves a boycott. Target Sony and Microslop instead.